Is civil war possible in America

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  1. D.M.V

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    Just putting this out there. America has been through a civil war once already, although long time ago. Frankly it happens all the time all over the world in other countries. Yet a lot of people think it can't happen here.
     

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    One has to wonder about the possibility with the influx of illegal aliens from all over the world. I watched a video of the Mall of America in Bloomington, MN yesterday which is now known as the mall of Somalia. In a five minute video I counted only five or six white people. The FBI labels Bloomington the number one hotspot for muslim terrorist recruitment in the US. That coupled with the northward migration of Central Americans does not bode well for America.
    How it develops remains to be seen. I doubt much will occur in our lifetime but I worry for my kids and grandkids.
     

  3. tarbe

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    Yeah, that's called "Normalcy Bias".

    I say of course...it could happen here again.
     
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    Seriously doubt that it would last long. The U.S. military has incredible technology that would make an AR about as effective as a BB gun.
     

  5. D.M.V

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    Do you think the whole US military would go along with some kind of marshal law gun confiscation property seizure people round up.
     
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    The results of the next election may well be a precurser to something more serious than the violence associated with the antifa brigade at the mement especially if the POTUS retains the office but just as likely if they steal it. Just an opinion from outside the US by someone who follows the politics there (because they are important for the rest of the world.)
     
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    I think trump is up against more than just the political machine of the american communist agenda. He's upsetting the apple cart of the whole world that's played the USA for sucker's for decades and decades. Gazillions of $ are at stake for this cabal.
     

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    Possible? Absolutely. When is the question.
     

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    This country is currently in a civil war, we just haven’t gotten to the shooting portion yet.

    The war of northern aggression (1861-1865) was not a civil war as the South wanted to be left alone, but Lincoln’s central government wouldn’t let the revenue from the South go, so he ordered an invasion.

    I believe this upcoming presidential election is going to be the trigger, pun intended, for the next stage. The military and police personnel I know swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, not the communists fighting to maintain their grip on this country. I have faith they will do this when the time comes, and it’s coming.
     

  10. Bullthrower338

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    Couldn’t agree more with your post. There are many acts that would be considered treasonous that go unpunished because of the pussification of the United States! Most of the politicians, had they pulled this shit in days of old would have been shot in the streets. Lack of accountability in general is sickening. I pray that the division in this country could be sorted through anything other than shooting in the streets like some third world shithole, but I am afraid it can’t. Not because most of us are not willing to deal, but because the other side will not. They will not stop until we are turned into a socialist society. At that point there is no turning back. Patriots must defend what our forefathers intended this great nation to be.
    So I’m gonna throw a resounding Yes it is possible and we are teetering on the brink.
     

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    Well said Cody. Yes I believe it can happen and will if and when the Republicans loose the Presidency and control of Congress. I just hope the Law Enforcement and Military will not obey them
     

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    That and the millions of privately owned firearms and those of us who are ready, willing and able to use them. I think if Trump wins the election, and I believe he will by a much larger margin than before, the shit is really going to hit the fan. He will be a lame duck president with nothing to lose election wise. He has given the world a taste of what he can do and next term he's going to put the big hurt on in full force. The world is going to learn, after so many decades, that f----ing with the USA can have disastrous consequences. And here at home he is going to continue draining the swamp and righting the Supreme Court. His strategy is really simple. His tweets are a masterful diversion to keep the lame scream media and other idiot mobs off balance and confused while he goes about running the country.
     

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    My two cents: Never happen now. People in this country are spoiled rotten, too soft, self absorbed and comfortable. Besides that, they'd have to put down their cell phones for a couple minutes. :ROFLMAO:
     

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    MY WIFE AND I DONT USE CELL PHONES,NOTHING TO PUT DOWN,HANDS ARE FREE FOR BUSINESS.
     

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    79 year old 17 term speaker of the house is 3rd in line of succession. Gag!
     

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    I don't think it will be a full civil war in the traditional sense. Civil uprising and Riots are going to happen at somepoint.
     
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    No political system is perpetually stable. Most successful societies seem to run on something like 400 year cycles before succumbing to a major restructuring. Sadly, those are usually characterized by violence. That said, I don't believe we are anywhere near that point yet. I think the twitterverse - indeed all social media (I realize I am including this site) - is largely a curse to public discourse. It magnifies small differences, and more importantly, minority political views, gain apparent traction when they are really the shouting of a marginalized fringe. All of us can cruise the various political and news sites, and generate all the anger and frustration we care to shoulder and our blood pressure will stand. The particularly deranged tend to fill the comments sections of those sites (scroll through a Brietbart article comments section to realize all the nut jobs aren't on the left). However, the real world remains largely unchanged. A trip to the grocery store isn't much different than thirty years ago. Most of the people in the mall are a lot younger than they once were - I think that is because I am a lot older - but it is still just shopping. The power and sewage systems work, and life for the majority of our citizens is among the best on the planet. No one is really about to ban cattle or hamburgers anymore than New Orleans is about to order a mass evacuation due to imminent rising waters. Sure, it plays out on the fringes where things like trophy imports are banned or ivory is destroyed - but that is of zero interest to the vast majority of our citizens.

    There may indeed be future restrictions on the second amendment. And before I am shouted down by the absolutists, I would simply point out they already exist. It is a function of majorities, local and national. It is perfectly possible we will see a ban of another class of firearms in our lifetime. I think those potential majorities are clearly gaining traction again.

    I am concerned that our particular cultural ethos of individual self reliance is indeed vanishing. It is a function of the ever accelerating urbanization of the country. The research is pretty overwhelming that young urban people (who are not part of a gang sub-culture) seem far more concerned about safety than self-defense. A stable economic environment is more important than one characterized by opportunity. Those are indeed the sort of foundation blocks which give the pseudo socialists like OAC her traction. But these are evolutionary attributes of our society and culture, not revolutionary ones. Remember, the first economic awakening of most of these young people was the great recession and the effect on their parents. Not one of capitalism's better moments.

    But just what are the goals of this civil war, and who will lead it? Sure you have a few thousand middle class young people dressing up in black and running around the streets in the ANTIFA "movement." But to me, It seems more like an extended spring break for vandals than a real threat to our democracy. And remember, it is the voters of say Seattle who are making the decisions of how those children are controlled. I suppose we could have a movement of angry old guys who want to throw away I- phones and restore corporal punishment to elementary schools, but the laws of cellular regeneration says that will be a shrinking base from which to draw foot soldiers. And they would be soldiers against whom - exactly? I mean seriously, who is going to fight whom to achieve what?

    The US military leadership is proudly apolitical. They all have sworn an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies - foreign and domestic. They will do exactly what they are ordered to do by the constitutionally elected government of this nation - whichever party that represents. They are also cautioned by the uniform code of military justice not to obey an illegal order.

    Donald Trump will either win the next election are he won't. The Republican party will either retain one or both houses or it won't. That will decide what will happen over the next few years with regard to a lot of the things many of us on this site hold dear. Lose, and we will see restrictions on our sport, on our vehicles, and in all likelihood the second amendment. That will happen because majorities of our fellow citizens think it is a good idea. These people disgust me as well. But rather than throwing away our cell phones and hiding our heads in the digital sand, I would suggest making sure your guy or gal wins. I assure you that is what the leadership of our opponents are focused upon.
     

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