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Hello all,

Western Canadian boy here, grew up in BC hunting moose, black bear and whitetail. As a kid, I read everything I could get my hands on about hunting and the history of the dark continent. It has always fascinated me, and visiting to hunt myself one day has always been a dream! After moving to Alberta and spending 9 years as an Army medic, I moved on to greener pastures in 2015 and am now at a point in my life that with careful planning, Africa could be within reach in a few years.

Last year, I picked up a new 9.3x62 Tikka T3X hunter with iron sights and some lovely grain in the walnut stock. As a handloader, my searches online for data and preferred projectiles for this lovely round have found me cruising threads here on many occasions... So I figured it was time I signed up! I'm hoping to gain greater insight on all the nitty gritty details, do's/dont's of a first time safari, and perhaps bicker/banter about cartridges and projectiles along the way.

My hope is that in a few short years, I'll find myself in Zimbabwe, on the prowl for hippo, croc, leopard and cape buffalo. Since taking a synthetic stock to Africa would seem like a small blasphemy, my minty Sako AV 300 win mag would likely accompany the 9.3mm. Unless, of course, you fine folks convince me a buff with 9.3mm is silly (I know its done the job tens of thousands of times, and continues to, but something does seem off about utilizing a 6.5 lb bolt gun in a standard action for such a beast haha) . Or, maybe a pile of money the size of an elephant trophy fee falls in my lap. In which case my very under-utilized Sako finds itself with perhaps a 416 Rem barrel.

Cheers!
 
Welcome to AH Sakonut!
 
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Welcome! Glad to have you here! Part of the fun in deciding where to hunt and what to hunt is figuring out what gun to use. I'm sure by the time your hunt comes around you will have a gun that fits you well and shoots like a dream!
 
From Alberta as well. Shoot me a DM if youre central or northern, I have one or two of every calibre from 9.3 up to the big 50's in traditional calibres, if you want to go test some out. Im also in my 20's so we can talk like normal people instead of speaking the vernacular of the distinguished 80 year old Englishman thats so common here
 
Welcome to AH - What is your "Go-To" cartridge and bullet for large Canadian Moose? Headed that way in a few weeks to hunt for one.

As for the 9.3mm for Cape Buffalo? First I would discuss it with your chosen PH. He will know more than any of us. IMO-the mid bores like the 9.3 (,366cal) and the 375's are legal for DG and will kill them but they are not "Stoppers". Statistics say that these same mid bore rifles achieve the highest percentage of 1-shot kills on Cape Buffalo according to one PH looking at a small group of kills numbering less than 100 overall. Those stats say nothing about how long it took for those bulls to die after one shot from a 9.3 or a 375. Watch a bull shot with a 458 or a 470 and you will see a marked different outcome as long as the shooter places the bullet well. 1st shot bullet placement is critical in every case with every cartridge.

I used that to convince myself that my 375HH was enough gun but I will tell you this. When we were stalking buffalo in thorn bush so dense that I could hear and small the herd less than 30y from me and still could not see to take a shot, that was unnerving. Both of my PH's carried 458wm rifles and one of them has since switched to a 450NE double rifle for such duty. On that day, I wished I had brought more gun.

When I finally got a shot on game the 375 did the job but it required several shots over about 20 seconds before the buff went down. The PH's did not have to use their big boomers but, If I ever do that again, I am bringing a 40cal or larger rifle. My buff ran from left to right after the first shot and never charged. Had he decided to run at us, he could have got to us easily in 20 seconds. Just saying it is enough rifle but only just enough. Not a hammer.
 
Welcome to AH
 
Welcome to AH - What is your "Go-To" cartridge and bullet for large Canadian Moose? Headed that way in a few weeks to hunt for one.

As for the 9.3mm for Cape Buffalo? First I would discuss it with your chosen PH. He will know more than any of us. IMO-the mid bores like the 9.3 (,366cal) and the 375's are legal for DG and will kill them but they are not "Stoppers". Statistics say that these same mid bore rifles achieve the highest percentage of 1-shot kills on Cape Buffalo according to one PH looking at a small group of kills numbering less than 100 overall. Those stats say nothing about how long it took for those bulls to die after one shot from a 9.3 or a 375. Watch a bull shot with a 458 or a 470 and you will see a marked different outcome as long as the shooter places the bullet well. 1st shot bullet placement is critical in every case with every cartridge.

I used that to convince myself that my 375HH was enough gun but I will tell you this. When we were stalking buffalo in thorn bush so dense that I could hear and small the herd less than 30y from me and still could not see to take a shot, that was unnerving. Both of my PH's carried 458wm rifles and one of them has since switched to a 450NE double rifle for such duty. On that day, I wished I had brought more gun.

When I finally got a shot on game the 375 did the job but it required several shots over about 20 seconds before the buff went down. The PH's did not have to use their big boomers but, If I ever do that again, I am bringing a 40cal or larger rifle. My buff ran from left to right after the first shot and never charged. Had he decided to run at us, he could have got to us easily in 20 seconds. Just saying it is enough rifle but only just enough. Not a hammer.
from alberta as well, my sister shot her moose with a youth model 30-30. Use whatever you want, theyre not as tough as ud think
 
from alberta as well, my sister shot her moose with a youth model 30-30. Use whatever you want, theyre not as tough as ud think
I have been told that Moose is not hard to kill. Interesting.
 
Servus and welcome. Spending some time on this site will be great prep for your upcoming African adventures.
 
Welcome to AH - What is your "Go-To" cartridge and bullet for large Canadian Moose? Headed that way in a few weeks to hunt for one.
A have shoot a couple dozen moose with my .308 over the years, and two with .32 Winchester special.

They really are not tough for their size.
 
Hello all,

Western Canadian boy here, grew up in BC hunting moose, black bear and whitetail. As a kid, I read everything I could get my hands on about hunting and the history of the dark continent. It has always fascinated me, and visiting to hunt myself one day has always been a dream! After moving to Alberta and spending 9 years as an Army medic, I moved on to greener pastures in 2015 and am now at a point in my life that with careful planning, Africa could be within reach in a few years.

Last year, I picked up a new 9.3x62 Tikka T3X hunter with iron sights and some lovely grain in the walnut stock. As a handloader, my searches online for data and preferred projectiles for this lovely round have found me cruising threads here on many occasions... So I figured it was time I signed up! I'm hoping to gain greater insight on all the nitty gritty details, do's/dont's of a first time safari, and perhaps bicker/banter about cartridges and projectiles along the way.

My hope is that in a few short years, I'll find myself in Zimbabwe, on the prowl for hippo, croc, leopard and cape buffalo. Since taking a synthetic stock to Africa would seem like a small blasphemy, my minty Sako AV 300 win mag would likely accompany the 9.3mm. Unless, of course, you fine folks convince me a buff with 9.3mm is silly (I know its done the job tens of thousands of times, and continues to, but something does seem off about utilizing a 6.5 lb bolt gun in a standard action for such a beast haha) . Or, maybe a pile of money the size of an elephant trophy fee falls in my lap. In which case my very under-utilized Sako finds itself with perhaps a 416 Rem barrel.

Cheers!
Let's meet somewhere as soon as possible in the hunt for old daga boy.
Welcome
 
A have shoot a couple dozen moose with my .308 over the years, and two with .32 Winchester special.

They really are not tough for their size.
308 was my PG rifle on my first Safari and took five animals all with one shot each. I friend took a huge Bison bull with his 308 two yrs ago with one shot using the Hornady SST cup n core round. I it is a good hunting round as are 30-06 and many others. First shot placement is far more important than which cartridge we use. I am looking forward to the hunt.
 
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Welcome to AH - What is your "Go-To" cartridge and bullet for large Canadian Moose? Headed that way in a few weeks to hunt for one.

As for the 9.3mm for Cape Buffalo? First I would discuss it with your chosen PH. He will know more than any of us. IMO-the mid bores like the 9.3 (,366cal) and the 375's are legal for DG and will kill them but they are not "Stoppers". Statistics say that these same mid bore rifles achieve the highest percentage of 1-shot kills on Cape Buffalo according to one PH looking at a small group of kills numbering less than 100 overall. Those stats say nothing about how long it took for those bulls to die after one shot from a 9.3 or a 375. Watch a bull shot with a 458 or a 470 and you will see a marked different outcome as long as the shooter places the bullet well. 1st shot bullet placement is critical in every case with every cartridge.

I used that to convince myself that my 375HH was enough gun but I will tell you this. When we were stalking buffalo in thorn bush so dense that I could hear and small the herd less than 30y from me and still could not see to take a shot, that was unnerving. Both of my PH's carried 458wm rifles and one of them has since switched to a 450NE double rifle for such duty. On that day, I wished I had brought more gun.

When I finally got a shot on game the 375 did the job but it required several shots over about 20 seconds before the buff went down. The PH's did not have to use their big boomers but, If I ever do that again, I am bringing a 40cal or larger rifle. My buff ran from left to right after the first shot and never charged. Had he decided to run at us, he could have got to us easily in 20 seconds. Just saying it is enough rifle but only just enough. Not a hammer.
My first moose, at 13, was taken broadside at 150m with the 270 win and the old 140gr XBT... At 16, I switched to the '06 and 168gr tsx and taken several others. As other posters have mentioned, despite their size, they are not particularly tough. The willow thickets we'd often find them in didnt usually offer follow up shots, but they tend to gallop off and fold up within 100m.

My father loved his 338 Lapua... now that folds big bull moose over quite nicely. We'd often find nothing left of the lungs but congealed soup, out at 400m, and even a 600m frontal shot I witnessed him take.

I've since come to appreciate the excitement of calling them in close, hence my interest in the 9.3. I have picked up a pile of the hornady 286gr interlock SP-RP that should be devestating on anything I'll run into on this side of the atlantic. I've found and ordered a few boxes of 286gr A-frames to work up a load for Africa when the time comes... I'd love to use this old round for buff, but I would of course defer to my eventual PH! Building a custom .416 on my Sako AV would be fun, though
 
Six and a half pounds? Ouch! My +10 lb 404J on 98 Mauser is about all I can handle ... IF I hang onto it FIRMLY. I suggest building something with more heft and less recoil. I carry that rifle all day in Africa no problem.
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And when upland hunting back home in Montana I carry a heavy old Browning A5 Magnum Twelve all day essentially every day for six weeks every year. And I'm no Hulk Hogan.
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Honestly, I do not understand the current trend in lightweight guns. Why would anyone want a lightweight 3.5" twelve gauge magnum to hunt waterfowl? Generally waterfowl hunters don't need to carry their guns any further than the truck/boat to the blind. A lightweight dangerous game rifle makes about as much sense to me = very little.

A word of caution about delaying your safari to "bucket list." You don't know what the future will hold re your physical capabilities, especially in the golden years. I see way too many guys waiting until their health is in the toilet and then abandon the idea or make compromises that tend to significantly depreciate the experience. I just finished my fifth safari and I will be 74 in a few weeks. I also live in an 800 sq ft home built in 1929 and I drive a 2004 vehicle with 200K miles. For a long time I have had my priorities geared to hunting wherever I can as long as I can. Check it out. I think you will find a quality safari is not as expensive as you might think. Don't discount South Africa. I hunt an Eastern Cape property that's 167K acres and most of it is inaccessible. There are fences but I rarely if ever see them. And I guess you didn't know you can't take your guns with you to Zimbabwe (or so I have read)? You might enjoy hunting Mozambique ... if you enjoy living on the edge ... and can afford your own private army security detail. Namibia by all accounts would also be an excellent choice, especially for plains game. And finally, don't overrate Cape buffalo. I have shot three and the experience can be very challenging. But the pricetag is also very challenging. I find kudu are just as challenging to hunt and probably the world's most beautiful trophy. You could shoot five kudu (maybe more!) for the price of one Cape buffalo bull.
 

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