Future One-Rifle PG-DG Setup

[BJH65]

Yes Sir, but I'm talking 10 years from now but at the same time I do not want the rifle to sit in the safe. 10 years from now I'm positive I may not want to hunt with my 470 any more.I'm 58 BTW

I was just rethinking your original post. 10 years will pass relatively quickly so don’t prematurely age yourself, you won’t be that old! If you maintain a healthy lifestyle and reasonably good fitness level, you’ll be just fine 10 years from now and have no need to give up any rifles unless you just want to pass them down as gifts.

 

[Safari Dave]

If all DG are potentially on the list, I would go with a .416 Rigby with open sights and a detachable LPVO.

If elephant and rhino aren't on the list of DG, a .375 H&H should suffice just fine. I would still want open sights and detachable mounts, but might move the scope up to 3X+ for more precise shooting at distance for PG.

I'm 3 years older than you and can still use open sights well.


I know several hunters who are in their late 60's who can "hang" (or even beat out) guys 1/2 their age, because they keep themselves in good shape.

 

[Dakota Hunter]

I have used my Heym Martini 416 Rigby to shoot buffalo, plains game, wart hogs and a lioness with great results .

I have used my Heym Martini 416 Rigby to shoot buffalo, plains game, wart hogs and a lioness with great results .

A 350 grain Barnes X is pretty versatile in a 416 .

 

[Bush Buck]

These are fun discussions but it's really not complicated. The most practical answer to this question is 375 H&H - and it has been for over 100 years.

For what it's worth, I met a guy at the shooting range a couple of years ago that was getting ready for his 26th African safari! All he used was a synthetic stocked Sako 375 H&H. He hunted both dangerous and plains game. He loved Africa and loved to hunt, but was not a gun nut. He was totally satisfied with his rifle.

 

[uplander01]

Dakota Safari with 1/4 rib config in 375 HH on GI for $6995, looks minty, absolutely the best value for the money right now.

 

[SStomcat]

If all DG are potentially on the list, I would go with a .416 Rigby with open sights and a detachable LPVO.

If elephant and rhino aren't on the list of DG, a .375 H&H should suffice just fine. I would still want open sights and detachable mounts, but might move the scope up to 3X+ for more precise shooting at distance for PG.

I'm 3 years older than you and can still use open sights well.


I know several hunters who are in their late 60's who can "hang" (or even beat out) guys 1/2 their age, because they keep themselves in good shape.

I was just rethinking your original post. 10 years will pass relatively quickly so don’t prematurely age yourself, you won’t be that old! If you maintain a healthy lifestyle and reasonably good fitness level, you’ll be just fine 10 years from now and have no need to give up any rifles unless you just want to pass them down as gifts.

Trully appreciate your thoughts and wishes. I had a scare about 4 years back, that required a planned intervention. Ever since, with lifestyle changes, (with help from my wife and family) moderate exercise and regular checkups I'm possibly in the best shape of my life. I've the green signal to do whatever I choose to in my life.
However I like to plan for the future, our future, and I know one day age will catch up. and I should therefore have something now, use it, before it becomes a one gun family. Just my thoughts. Thanks for your wishes one more time.

 

[SStomcat]

Dakota Safari with 1/4 rib config in 375 HH on GI for $6995, looks minty, absolutely the best value for the money right now.

Very very tempted

 

[BTP-KennethWRoyce]

I think a .416/400gr/2400fps for DG would be just fine, and using 300 or 350gr for PG.

Sure, the .375/300gr/2550fps will work for DG, but I think the extra of a .416 is worth a slight recoil premium.

 

[Red Leg]

Trully appreciate your thoughts and wishes. I had a scare about 4 years back, that required a planned intervention. Ever since, with lifestyle changes, (with help from my wife and family) moderate exercise and regular checkups I'm possibly in the best shape of my life. I've the green signal to do whatever I choose to in my life.
However I like to plan for the future, our future, and I know one day age will catch up. and I should therefore have something now, use it, before it becomes a one gun family. Just my thoughts. Thanks for your wishes one more time.

I turn 74 next week and will be howling my lungs out at the LSU Texas A&M game as a self-indulgent present (Geaux Tigers lest there be any confusion). Two weeks later I'll spend four days pounding milo fields (not blocking) in South Dakota. At the end of November, I'll be on stands in Austria and Hungary attempting to roll wild boar. This afternoon I filled the feeders and set cameras on our little place here in Texas. As I type this, I am enjoying a very fine scotch.

Admittedly, aging is a lot more complicated than just attitude - mother nature will indeed reach out and tap us on the shoulder eventually. But, as an old melancholy Sergeant Major reminded me over a very late night bottle of bourbon many years ago - none of us are getting out of here alive anyway. So my goal ( and my lovely spouse's) has been to put as much live into that alive as we can while we can.

I can still handle any firearm I care to own. Admittedly, I have never been enamoured with shoulder fired cannons. I suspect when I can no longer manage a .375, a .22LR will present equal issues. My message would be own and use the best solution for whatever adventure awaits on the horizon. That best solution will, of course, be open to debate. Joe Black will let us know when it is time to shut the gun safe or gun room door in his good time.

 

[vern.284]

This was a fantastic read. Great input by all

 

[steve white]

I presume 400 is enough gun for a charging Buff bull elephant?

IMO you are going to be really hard pressed to find one rifle that truly covers stopping elephant and performs for PG. An elephant stopper is a specialized tool, as juxtaposed to a caliber sufficient for a client to kill an elephant, while backed up by a PH with a stopper.
I don't think a stopper will be found on the R8 platform, but not sure. But the R8 with different barrels would be my choice for one gun--just with more than one barrel. Otherwise, 375 in your favorite venue.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I turn 74 next week and will be howling my lungs out at the LSU Texas A&M game as a self-indulgent present (Geaux Tigers lest there be any confusion). Two weeks later I'll spend four days pounding milo fields (not blocking) in South Dakota. At the end of November, I'll be on stands in Austria and Hungary attempting to roll wild boar. This afternoon I filled the feeders and set cameras on our little place here in Texas. As I type this, I am enjoying a very fine scotch.

Admittedly, aging is a lot more complicated than just attitude - mother nature will indeed reach out and tap us on the shoulder eventually. But, as an old melancholy Sergeant Major reminded me over a very late night bottle of bourbon many years ago - none of us are getting out of here alive anyway. So my goal ( and my lovely spouse's) has been to put as much live into that alive as we can while we can.

I can still handle any firearm I care to own. Admittedly, I have never been enamoured with shoulder fired cannons. I suspect when I can no longer manage a .375, a .22LR will present equal issues. My message would be own and use the best solution for whatever adventure awaits on the horizon. That best solution will, of course, be open to debate. Joe Black will let us know when it is time to shut the gun safe or gun room door in his good time.

Another member of the class of 1952. That was a good year.

 

[SStomcat]

IMO you are going to be really hard pressed to find one rifle that truly covers stopping elephant and performs for PG. An elephant stopper is a specialized tool, as juxtaposed to a caliber sufficient for a client to kill an elephant, while backed up by a PH with a stopper.
I don't think a stopper will be found on the R8 platform, but not sure. But the R8 with different barrels would be my choice for one gun--just with more than one barrel. Otherwise, 375 in your favorite venue.

Understood, R8 makes a 500 Jefferey which is a stopper, but I'm not going any bigger than my 470 for the future. This is a one gun battery I plan to use in my late years when I'm unable to use my big pipe effectively.
I may end up shooting cows by then as and when the opportunity arise, but like to keep my options, knowing my PH will be ther with a 500 double pipe. Good thoughts though.

 

[Schüler Jumbo]

IMO you are going to be really hard pressed to find one rifle that truly covers stopping elephant and performs for PG. An elephant stopper is a specialized tool, as juxtaposed to a caliber sufficient for a client to kill an elephant, while backed up by a PH with a stopper.
I don't think a stopper will be found on the R8 platform, but not sure. But the R8 with different barrels would be my choice for one gun--just with more than one barrel. Otherwise, 375 in your favorite venue.

The .500 Jeffery is available on the R8 platform. There is no better “stopping cartridge” than the glorious .500 Jeff.

 

[SStomcat]

There is no better “stopping cartridge” than the glorious .500 Jeff.

Not to go on a tangent and deraill the thread, but respectfully there are and I'm sure you know them.

 

[Schüler Jumbo]

No disrespect taken, but I’d like to hear what cartridges you’re referring to.

Not to go on a tangent and deraill the thread, but respectfully there are and I'm sure you know them.

 

[Scott CWO]

This is about my future hunting rifle. As many of you know, and for those who don't, my current lineup is:

470 NE double, 9.3x62, 338 Win Mag, 30-06,270 Win --- All scoped

Looking ahead, say 10 years down the road, I "may" not have quite the same vision or strength to comfortably hunt dangerous game with my double rifle. So I'm thinking ahead and considering a one rifle solution for both PG and DG.

My preference would be a bolt-action, scoped, but with iron sights as well.Now, I'm looking for your thoughts not on the brand, but on the caliber.

If you were putting together this one-rifle PG/DG battery, which one would you choose and please articulate why..

• 404 Jeffery
• 416 Rigby
• 375 H&H
• Just stick to the 9.3 where and use it for DG where legal.
• Or something else entirely?

Cheers!

Dakota Traveler with .375 H&H barrel and.458 Lott barrel.

A friend just got a standard Dakota in .416 Remington for the same reason you’re thinking. Hard to argue with that choice. The .416 has great sectional density and is known to penetrate very well.

 

[SStomcat]

No disrespect taken, but I’d like to hear what cartridges you’re referring to.

OK IMO - 577 NE, 600 NE, 505 Gibbs - bigger case so will hold more powder, 577 Rewa, 600 Over kill..
Request - you may choose to disagree, and I'm fine with it but lets have another thread for this discussion

 

[SStomcat]

Dakota Traveler with .375 H&H barrel and.458 Lott barrel.

A friend just got a standard Dakota in .416 Remington for the same reason you’re thinking. Hard to argue with that choice. The .416 has great sectional density and is known to penetrate very well.

Ya good options, little expense on the wallet, but good.

 

[Mark458]

Ya good options, little expense on the wallet, but good.

That would certainly be a great setup and Dakota makes wonderful rifles, but do you truly consider two separate barrels as one rifle. It's not what comes to mind as far as I'm concerned.