Elephant hunting

[Killingtime]

For an extra challenge do a night elephant hunt.

Last night my wife and I were watching elephant safari hunts and she found a night hunt for lion with hounds. She was not about that life she heard that cat roaring and thought they were crazy.
She knows I’m gonna try for a leopard with hounds down the road and said yeah but atleast you can see what’s trying to eat you in the day.

 

[Russ16]

Last night my wife and I were watching elephant safari hunts and she found a night hunt for lion with hounds. She was not about that life she heard that cat roaring and thought they were crazy.
She knows I’m gonna try for a leopard with hounds down the road and said yeah but atleast you can see what’s trying to eat you in the day.

If public please share where we can find that lion video!

 

[Killingtime]

If public please share where we can find that lion video!

 

[Killingtime]

That channel I just looked has a leopard hound video also. I love the sound of hounds

 

[375Fox]

For an extra challenge do a night elephant hunt.

I don’t doubt it’s extremely exciting but I have a hard time calling it elephant hunting. It’s problem animal control.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

I’ve hunted 1 Trophy Bull in Zimbabwe, 1 PAC in Namibia, and leave in a little over 2 weeks for a Tuskless hunt in Zimbabwe. Give me about a month and I’ll report back.

Trophy/Non-Trophy depends on the outfitter and their management plan. Many will structure their trophy fees differently. I’d think this potentially has to do with the processing/prep and paperwork, but is also a way to encourage hunting some smaller, or younger animals since Zimbabwe hasn’t done a major cull in years, despite needing to. Some will still hunt the largest and oldest bull on a Non-Trophy hunt, other won’t. That’s a question for your outfitter

@Killingtime on @VertigoBE hunt the broken 48x40 was a Trophy. Just because he’s broken doesn’t mean it’s a Non-Trophy. As long as the ivory is over a specific weight (i think it’s 25lbs), Zimbabwe will approve export.

As @375Fox and @Green Chile said different areas will have different experiences and different opportunities, especially if other animals are on your list.

 

[Tanks]

I don’t doubt it’s extremely exciting but I have a hard time calling it elephant hunting. It’s problem animal control.

True, it used to be done in the CampFire areas, still was able to import the skins though. Ivory and the trunk meat went to the chief. Can't beat those in cost back in the day at $3K per elephant.

Only time I was charged was during a night hunt. One thing, those are done during full moon, so it is still pretty light.

 

[Rare Breed]

I’ve hunted 1 Trophy Bull in Zimbabwe, 1 PAC in Namibia, and leave in a little over 2 weeks for a Tuskless hunt in Zimbabwe. Give me about a month and I’ll report back.

Trophy/Non-Trophy depends on the outfitter and their management plan. Many will structure their trophy fees differently. I’d think this potentially has to do with the processing/prep and paperwork, but is also a way to encourage hunting some smaller, or younger animals since Zimbabwe hasn’t done a major cull in years, despite needing to. Some will still hunt the largest and oldest bull on a Non-Trophy hunt, other won’t. That’s a question for your outfitter

@Killingtime on @VertigoBE hunt the broken 48x40 was a Trophy. Just because he’s broken doesn’t mean it’s a Non-Trophy. As long as the ivory is over a specific weight (i think it’s 25lbs), Zimbabwe will approve export.

As @375Fox and @Green Chile said different areas will have different experiences and different opportunities, especially if other animals are on your list.

Interesting. my bull was 20 pounds and with conservation force absolutely no problem with export or import

 

[Racer00]

I did a night hunt back in December. Ambushed them when they used a travel corridor. Long, boring waiting topped by a huge adrenaline surge when the tracker wakes you and says “they are coming!!”
Killed mine in the 9th night of a 10 day hunt. Glad I did it. Don’t know if I need to do it again. My first was a tuskless. Tracking. It was exciting. I like tracking better as you may guess.
But for the price, and being able to take an exportable bull, the night hunt worked out well. One thing, my PH said chest shot only in the dark. Too hard to get a brain shot in short order. First shot was thru the lungs/heart as he wheeled to run. Second broke his hip and put him down 15 yards later. 470NE DR.

 

[Russ16]

I did a night hunt back in December. Ambushed them when they used a travel corridor. Long, boring waiting topped by a huge adrenaline surge when the tracker wakes you and says “they are coming!!”
Killed mine in the 9th night of a 10 day hunt. Glad I did it. Don’t know if I need to do it again. My first was a tuskless. Tracking. It was exciting. I like tracking better as you may guess.
But for the price, and being able to take an exportable bull, the night hunt worked out well. One thing, my PH said chest shot only in the dark. Too hard to get a brain shot in short order. First shot was thru the lungs/heart as he wheeled to run. Second broke his hip and put him down 15 yards later. 470NE DR. View attachment 752375

Where was this hunt done?

Nice bull.

 

[Flipper Dude]

There’s Bruce again. Told ya he’s always around.

 

[Racer00]

Zim. I hunted with Wayne VandenBergh’s outfit in the Gwai area.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

Interesting. my bull was 20 pounds and with conservation force absolutely no problem with export or import

Maybe it’s 20lbs,

I’ve heard more than one outfitter and PH say there’s a minimum and it’s always been in the 20’s every time, however someone from Africa said in an earlier post all elephants are exportable, so I’m not 100% sure. Might be a question to ask conservation force. I have no desire to hunt a bull under 40lbs unless he’s old. I’d rather hunt a Tuskless for the cost difference.

My trophy bull was significantly larger in terms of ivory and Zim parks put him at 54yo I believe, so the exact number went in one ear and out the other because it didn’t apply at all. On that hunt we looked over hundreds of elephants (many from afar), and I could’ve taken additional trophies, non trophies or Tuskless but after him I was looking for something longer or heavier than the bull I’d already killed or older. Less than #40 was off the table.

 

[DLSJR]

From folks who have successfully imported panels/ivory/parts in recent years…recommendations on service for the import/CITES portion?

Most use Conservation Force. I think Wyatt Fetner of Safari Specialty Importers is also well worth considering. I know from personal experience that Wyatt has integrity and solid character. I’ll use him again.

 

[Nhoro]

And Nyakasanga. Tons of them over there, I got the one I posted the video of on day 2 and saw more as we were hunting buffalo etc..

Nyakasanga is in the Zambezi valley

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

Most use Conservation Force. I think Wyatt Fetner of Safari Specialty Importers is also well worth considering. I know from personal experience that Wyatt has integrity and solid character. I’ll use him again.

Wyatt did my elephant import permits. Approval was a little slower than Adventure Permits or Conservation Force but he didn’t charge an extra fee for CITES animals.

That said, I’m not sure how much longer he plans on doing CITES import stuff without a fee, because of all the extra work involved and time on his end.

It’s not my business but if I were him (I’ve told him as much), I’d partner with one of the other permit application services like Conservation Force (who doesn’t handle anything from the customs or importation) and create a package between the two companies. It generates revenue and customers for both, while more importantly saving the hunter money and time playing to both company’s strengths and experience.

 

[grand veneur]

It is always very interesting to read about what someone want to shoot, the minimum of the desirable tusk weight and nothing less. But one have to find this trophy and above all to invest the necessary money to have a chance. To shoot cows or tusk-less elephants as an alternative, if the money is not enough, is debatable. I have already shot a cow once, but I am not enthusiastic about this hunt, just like tusk-less elephant hunts.

I recently shot the elephant on the picture, with a license for an old bull with a maximum tusk weight of 30 lbs. It is an old elephant and its tusks might perhaps weigh a bit more than 30 lbs, but it is a non-exportable trophy, so I will probably never know its exact weight. However, it was an interesting hunt for a fair price and such hunts can be repeated without having to invest a fortune.

 

[Russ16]

It is always very interesting to read about what someone want to shoot, the minimum of the desirable tusk weight and nothing less. But one have to find this trophy and above all to invest the necessary money to have a chance. To shoot cows or tusk-less elephants as an alternative, if the money is not enough, is debatable. I have already shot a cow once, but I am not enthusiastic about this hunt, just like tusk-less elephant hunts.

I recently shot the elephant on the picture, with a license for an old bull with a maximum tusk weight of 30 lbs. It is an old elephant and its tusks might perhaps weigh a bit more than 30 lbs, but it is a non-exportable trophy, so I will probably never know its exact weight. However, it was an interesting hunt for a fair price and such hunts can be repeated without having to invest a fortune.

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Good looking elephant. I’d like to know more about the hunt. Where was it, what time of year etc?

 

[grand veneur]

I have been fortunate enough to hunt elephants several times over the last 30 years and have experienced the various hunting methods. The ultimate experience, in every case, remains a classic elephant trophy hunt in an open area with unlimited tusk weight. Unfortunately, these hunts have become extremely expensive nowadays. Shooting a cow or a tuskless elephant close or in the middle of a herd is something different, but perhaps not to every hunter's liking. Hunting and shooting an elephant with a specified maximum tusk weight in the hunting contract remains a compromise compared to a classic elephant trophy hunting. The right elephant is but, depending on the area, found much more quickly and the interesting part of the hunt, tracking for days elephants, dropped. Nevertheless, the approach of the game and getting into a good shooting position remain the same as for a trophy hunt. The advantage in all cases is the price of such hunts, which is why they are in my opinion more recommendable than hunting cows or tuskless elephants.

 

[Pondoro]

Hunting elephant at night is a great experience...I did it several times, only shot bulls..