Double rifle shooting - good or not at 50 meters?

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  1. bruce moulds

    bruce moulds AH Elite

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    crs,
    don't ask me why that curved buttplate gives me the willy whoops in a recoiling rifle.
    bruce.
     

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    "I was told last week by a shot,that his Tikka o/u double,9,3x74 R, goes hole in hole on 100 m (envious :( )"

    Foxi - Do not worry, your rifle will do the job.
    Last weekend, my son shot my Beretta .458 2.4 double for the first time and his first shot centered a 2 inch bull at 50 yards.
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    Of course it does feature a Leupold shotgun scope and is sighted in properly, Still, he shoots it better than I do. Talk about envious!
     

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    Bruce,
    Many people feel that way about the curved metal butt plate until they shoot one properly.
    When I first shot this 1886 from a bench rest, even puny 300 grain Cowboy Action ammo felt odd.
    So, I quickly figured out the way to properly shoot a hard recoiling rifle with curved metal butt plate.

    What works for me is to tuck the lower tip of the butt plate into the arm pit. This allows the muzzle rise to rotate the rifle up, not back. The heavy barrel absorbs the energy and the rifle rotates down right on target. By then I have levered in another round and am ready for another shot as needed; it is not usually needed.
    o_O
     
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  4. Foxi

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    Lance,
    why NOT the triangel ?
     

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    @Foxi When I first got my 416 double (before certain folk pipe up I know the cal was meant for a BA) I was shooting much like you. With some practice I can now shoot a 4 round group in 2 inches at 50 yrds with no sticks. In fact I find I shoot it better off sticks than on.
     

  6. bruce moulds

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    norfolk shooter,
    you raise a good point.
    I have often wondered why sticks are so prolific in Africa.
    when hunting on your own, they are just impractical.
    with a backup crew to carry them, as on a safari, they might well have come into vogue due to the frustration of guides at the potential lack of shooting ability of clients.
    bruce.
     
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    HERE IS THE REGULATION GROUP FOR MY SIMSON SUHL .405 WCF.

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    This was shot from a sturdy tripod (not field sticks) at 50 yards by Aaron Little when he completed re- regulating the rifle with Hornady factory 300 grain ammo at 2225 fps MV. This is also the velocity to which I load all my 300 grain .405 ammo.He is another person that can shoot my doubles better than I.
    BTW, my 400 grain hand loads are also regulating at 2050 fps. A larger group, but OK for large game.
     

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    Give your bottom firing pin/spring/trigger a good clean. Blast it out with WD-40 -scrub with a brush and inspect it for burrs or sticking points. It may just be dirty or old oil is making it sticky so it doesnt strike hard. good shooting !
     
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    Guys, I can't agree with you on that.
    The ultimate goal must be to give the animals the safest shot, so we are take the life away from them.
    And in Africa wounded not found-full price.Not pleasant either.
    At our annual hunting competitions you can see the clear difference between freehand and stick shooting.
    @Norfolkshooter-Respect, then you are one of hundred.Not to be generalized.Sure.
    I hunt and carry the whole year over the stick on the stalk.Sticks in different variations.The stalk and the safe shot with moonlight on boar and fox would not be possible at all without that.It does not disturb me and in Africa carries him the tracker.In the Bavarian mountains (far shot distance) everyone has it .
    Logically, for a snapshot on elephant shoulder on 30m there nobody would need him.
    With the Jim Shockey stick, I shoot up to max. 130-150 m, with the divisible, where you can lie on butt and fore-end , you could easily reach up to 200 m out on boar and fox.He is a little more complicated in handling.However, I generally never like to shoot far.At home I can, so I want, every day to go hunting and if it does not fit, I just leave it.

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    Buffalos in front.I feel much better with a stick.



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    Fox in the full moonlight on the stubble field over the divisible stick.
    Messured 199 m. Had I had time to measure the distance before, I would not have shot :)
     
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