Chinese to take over Port of Mombasa

Discussion in 'News & Announcements' started by superdutch, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. Hogpatrol

    Hogpatrol AH ENABLER SILVER SUPPORTER AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2013
    Messages:
    4,144
    Video/Photo:
    49
    Likes Received:
    7,915
    Location:
    Delaware, USA
    Member of:
    Atglen Sportsmen's Club, NRA ,SCCFSA
    Hunted:
    RSA, DE, NJ, PA, KS, TX
    How much of those "loans" went in to Panamanian banks? The problem isn't the Chinese or their loans, it's the thousands of years old culture of corruption.
     

  2. flatwater bill

    flatwater bill AH Elite

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    1,250
    Video/Photo:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1,460
    Member of:
    NRA endowment member/Life member
    Hunted:
    NAMIBIA, RSA, KYRYG, KAZAKSTAN, MOZAMBIQUE,MEXICO, BOLIVIA, PERU, BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, SPAIN,
    Kenya.........like any other third world country....can simply nationalize anything China thinks that they own. They have little to no risk.........FWB
     

  3. Rule 303

    Rule 303 AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2015
    Messages:
    578
    Video/Photo:
    1
    Likes Received:
    419
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Hunted:
    Australia, New Zealand, Zimbabwe & Namibia
    My bad, I was led to believe the Chinese had pulled out of Zimbabwe.

    Try 100 years down the road. They work in 5 year lots aimed at the 100 year plan. % year lots so they can change end goals as required by changing environment, political and natural.
     
    Royal27 likes this.

  4. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
    NOT A FKN CHANCE!!!!! And they were on the property a few years ago with survey crew looking for minerals......were shit scared though.....:ROFLMAO:
     

  5. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
    One good one was when in a photo camp over from the hunting area we were in (to watch rugby match as they had sat Tv....) And one of the guides came in from long drive to nearest town....he said just heard some great news.....the Chinese are going to make the road an all weather dirt road for free......they only want the timber for it was I think 100 metres either side..the road was 90 kms...it was a few years ago now....we just looked at him and shook our heads.....
     
    flatwater bill likes this.

  6. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
    Not sure bout that....but they are setting stores up in villages....and even selling roast maize on roadside . ....I saw driving into lusaka couple weeks ago on the front page of one of the newspapers a seller was holding.. The headline was " the Chinese are like cockroaches".... there was a plan where there was going to be a Chinese police inspector and Chinese in the Zambian police to be at some police road blocks.....i can say that that didn't get too far as a lot of people didn't like it....:D
     

  7. Wheels

    Wheels AH ENABLER AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2012
    Messages:
    5,004
    Video/Photo:
    113
    Likes Received:
    5,263
    Hunted:
    Botswana, Namibia, South Africa, Tanzania, Zimbabwe
    Glad to see that Zambia may be having second thoughts about them.
     

  8. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
    Some of the people but they are too ingrained into massive construction projects so the govnt isn't going to be doing anything. ...also individuals are buying chunks of land for farming . They own shops .mines. construction companies. Malls.hotels. casinos.and most other businesses you can think of......so many of them in the country they not going anywhere. ......
     

  9. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
  10. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
  11. Wheels

    Wheels AH ENABLER AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2012
    Messages:
    5,004
    Video/Photo:
    113
    Likes Received:
    5,263
    Hunted:
    Botswana, Namibia, South Africa, Tanzania, Zimbabwe
    Your articles are good reads. Thanks.

    China’s modus operandi with third world countries seems to be:
    1. Do $1B of infrastructure work
    2. Pass out $300M in bribes
    3. Saddle the country with a loan of $5B for work done.

    Nationalizing all the Chinese major investments may be the way this works out in time. Same as african countries did with European projects a half century ago.

    The real problem is all the small tentacles reaching through Zambian society by the local Chinese. This may be a source of problems for eons.
     

  12. flatwater bill

    flatwater bill AH Elite

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    1,250
    Video/Photo:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1,460
    Member of:
    NRA endowment member/Life member
    Hunted:
    NAMIBIA, RSA, KYRYG, KAZAKSTAN, MOZAMBIQUE,MEXICO, BOLIVIA, PERU, BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, SPAIN,
    Every place in this thread that says "Zambia" could be replaced with "Bolivia" and be just as correct. They are bribing the crooked officials (most) and spreading thru the country like a fungus. Their wanton slaughter (yes slaughter) of Jaguars for "medicinal purposes" is what bothers me most. Sustainability has no equivalent in Mandarin. Take all you can get seems the rule. Dozens of other countries likely have this same problem with the Chinese. On the plus side, I met a polite Chinaman in the JNB airport in 2016. He offered my elderly uncle a chair when all was full. I damn near passed out.........................FWB
     
    jeff likes this.

  13. Rule 303

    Rule 303 AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2015
    Messages:
    578
    Video/Photo:
    1
    Likes Received:
    419
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Hunted:
    Australia, New Zealand, Zimbabwe & Namibia
    FWB This does not surprise me. From my limited knowledge this sort of thing happens where ever the Chinese (The rats of Asia) get in.
     

  14. FallowJaeger

    FallowJaeger AH Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2018
    Messages:
    75
    Video/Photo:
    1
    Likes Received:
    54
    Member of:
    SCI
    I talked with a young American who just got back from living in Zambia the last few years. He said there are a great many Chinese living there. No families, those are back in China but they all work for Chinese companies. I teach HS History, this comes up in my lessons as we compare the present to the future.
     

  15. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
    There are plenty there with their families. .. Unless my eyes have mistaken me.....
     

  16. Pondoro

    Pondoro AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    697
    Video/Photo:
    59
    Likes Received:
    734
    Hunted:
    Norway, Sweden, Namibia and Botswana
    Oil..? We have plenty of oil...and vast gas resources to produce synthetic diesel if neccesary..
     

  17. lwaters

    lwaters BRONZE SUPPORTER AH Elite

    Joined:
    May 20, 2011
    Messages:
    1,551
    Video/Photo:
    108
    Likes Received:
    1,267
    Location:
    Manhattan Kansas
    Member of:
    SCI
    Hunted:
    Texas,Namibia,Kansas, Missouri, Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho, South Africa, New Zealand
    Than why is everyone kissing the middle eastern countries arses. Gotta be the religious connection.
     

  18. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
    To stop the Russians moving in by leaving a vacuum.... .. They already pushing in
     

  19. lwaters

    lwaters BRONZE SUPPORTER AH Elite

    Joined:
    May 20, 2011
    Messages:
    1,551
    Video/Photo:
    108
    Likes Received:
    1,267
    Location:
    Manhattan Kansas
    Member of:
    SCI
    Hunted:
    Texas,Namibia,Kansas, Missouri, Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho, South Africa, New Zealand
    The Russians were real successful in Afghanistan surprised they would want to be in that mess. My opinion is them countries deserve the Chinese and Russians. They won't treat them has nice as the U.S does. They will line them up in front of a ditch like the Serbs did and I am not sure if anyone will give a damn.
     
    flatwater bill likes this.

  20. spike.t

    spike.t AH ENABLER SPONSOR Since 2013 AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Messages:
    8,253
    Video/Photo:
    316
    Likes Received:
    5,393
    Member of:
    sci int, basc,wpaz
    Hunted:
    zambia, tanzania, zimbabwe,Mozambique ,hungary, france, england
    Mmmm......the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan because they were getting fkd up . .......Afghanistan or the inhabitants fkup most people that try to control them.....simple fact.....
     

Share This Page

 
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice