I was perusing some of these "subjective opinion" threads this morning waiting for an airplane (.458wm = classic and non-military cartridge hunting battery threads, and another subjective opinion thread on a different site) and I thought I might throw up a question for the peanut gallery... If you were to name the Mid Bore and Big Bore cartridges you consider to be the benchmark against which all other cartridges in their classes are compared (at least in your own mind), what would they be? There is no right or wrong, of course, but the differences in personal preference seem to be very interesting. I'll kick it off with my own convoluted choices: Mid-bore = .416 Rigby, Big Bore = .470NE For Mid-bore, I'm hard pressed to choose between .375 H&H and .416 Rigby, but I'd tend to favor the Rigby as the cartridge I mentally compare other cartridges against. For large bore, as much as I personally enjoy the .458WM, I slate the .470NE as my Benchmark cartridge. Kinda hard for me to say that outloud, since part of me thinks ".458WM is enough, everything else above that is just MORE enough..." But the .470NE is my big bore benchmark.