....I'm not intending to hi-jack this thread, but does anyone know where I can get a pair of left side M98 aftermarket safeties for scoped use ?........we now return you to your original programming...
I thought memorizing weapon conditions was stupid until I realized how efficiently you can communicate to another hunter/shooter/police/whatever. I agree that condition 4 or condition 1 are appropriate in almost every hunting application. Very well said in my opinion.Open bolt always gives me the heebie-jeibbies.
It is not a weapon condition. Every time I have ever hunted in the United States, my rifle stays in one of two conditions, 4 or 1. I take the safety off when I have the animal in my crosshairs to take it to condition 0.
It is extremely disconcerting to me to have a rifle that is in a grey area of either loaded or not loaded. Especially since my .375 has to have the safety on anyway with an unlocked bolt. If the bolt is not completely lifted, pulling the trigger causes the bolt to snap down and releases the firing pin. That is a potential OOB if the trigger snags on something when crawling through dense brush. Yes, you should be carrying your rifle so that the trigger guard is covered... but it seems like a bad idea to me.
In my opinion, leaving the bolt handle up is a crutch to cover up poor maintenance and weapon handling skills.
The other side of the story is the PH/tracker/ect. I know every once in a while one gets shot by a client, and logic suggest for every time someone gets shot, there are many more unreported close calls.
I booked my last hunt with a PH I had hunted with 2x before. I trust him, I hope he trust me. We were hunting Buffalo on a consesion that required a representative of the landowner with us that is fine by me. On the first day, we were returning to the truck in the evening when I stopped 15 ft from the truck, spun 180 degrees around so that no one was in front of me, and proceeded to unload my rifle. I think the representative about had a heart attack when he heard the rifle action.
I guess he had worked with enough idiot clients that he was extremely uncomfortable with a rifle action being worked behind his back.
To summerize, I have worked for years to develope good weapon handling skills and mentality so that it is second nature to me, and anything other that routine is very disconcerting to me.
@BenKKMy Mauser has the flag safety which can’t be used with the scope on.
This isn’t a problem here in Australia because I only chamber a round when I’m about to shoot (buffalo, mostly) or else I chamber a round but keep the bolt open with my hand jammed firmly underneath. This is habit. Safety buttons make me uncomfortable (but I have used them at times on other kinds of rifles).
My question is, is my way of doing things acceptable or unacceptable on a plains game hunt in RSA? Bad manners, perhaps?
And, is a safety switch better to use on antelopes because of less noise (though lowering the bolt is quiet too).
I do prefer to keep my rifle as is, but am contemplating whether installing a horizontal safety is the right thing to do.
A number of PH's known to several on this site have been shot in recent years.I am curious how many hunters / PH have personally seen an accidental manipulation of the trigger coupled with a failed safety on a hunt. I did 25 years of active service with 19 of those during GWOT and know of only one. An assaulter was struggling to put a combative detainee on a helo and his slung long gun was pushed into his kit and he had an AD. I was in an organization where an AD meant you left the unit so maybe I just never saw it. The vast majority were conventional army privates with little weapons experience who were unloading. The odds of a safety failing coupled with brush setting off the weapon seem pretty slim to me if the hunter has some situational awareness. Lots of belt feds (fired from an open bolt) were "Africa carried" throughout the last few wars. I guess its all tied to personal responsibility.
Were they shot through a failure of the weapon or inexperienced hunter.A number of PH's known to several on this site have been shot in recent years.
Five years ago, Stu Taylor was shot with a .458 solid through the back and his shoulder blade in Mozambique during a buffalo follow-up by a well known outdoor personality. It is a no small miracle that he survived at all and his struggle to hunt and guide again has been extraordinarily difficult.
Another young PH had his arm taken off at the elbow by a client trailing him with a .500 double in the "African carry."
A third young man, who guided me in Namibia ten years ago, had, a few weeks later, half his right hand shot off by a client's .300 Win Mag when they were charged by the client's wounded leopard.
I have had more than one PH say to me that there are always at least two dangerous game animals on every stalk.
One was an experienced hunter who managed to trip and drill his PH through the back - No one knows precisely how it happened, but if I had to guess, the rifle was not on safe. To his credit, the outdoor personality chronicled the incident on his program. Whether his actions in the months following the incident were to his credit is a story for others to tell.Were they shot through a failure of the weapon or inexperienced hunter.
you are carrying the gun so the risk is mostly to another person.I will carry my Krieghoff Big Five .470 loaded but de-cocked, african carry..I consider it to be completely safe. I will however NOT do it with a conventional double a ka pre-war british..do not trust the safety.
When hunting DG with a Mauser derivate I have a full magazine, a chambered round and an open bolt..