Anyone use the .270 Winchester?

[rdog]

@rdog
What will the 240 Weatherby do that a cheap 24 inch barrel S2 Weatherby in 25/06 won't do just as good and cheaper.
Bob

Nothing, i got a very good deal on the rifle 3-9 vx2 Leupold & 250 unprimed Norma cases,RCBS dies & 60 rounds of loaded ammo. $1050 in 1988.

 

[rdog]

1998 not1988

 

[Rule 303]

I have had a 270 since 1978. The first was a Rem 700 ADL. Took mainly pigs and goats with it. Also 3 Tahr and a Chamois in New Zealand. Ran mainly Nosler Solid Base 130 grainers until they stopped making them - their replace shot well but would break up and fail to break a pigs leg bone. Went to the Coreloks. Great. Wore the lead out, converted it to a 35 Whelen.

My 2nd and current 270 is a Steyr Mannlicher Pro Hunter. Shots better than the Rem, tighter groups and 140 grain pills have a MV of 3000FPS. Whats not to like. Both 270's shot/shoot monometal bullets very well, except Barnes. There TSX at least form a group previous ones were a shotgun pattern and no where near where all the others land.

 

[hawkeyesatx]

I have had a 270 since 1978. The first was a Rem 700 ADL. Took mainly pigs and goats with it. Also 3 Tahr and a Chamois in New Zealand. Ran mainly Nosler Solid Base 130 grainers until they stopped making them - their replace shot well but would break up and fail to break a pigs leg bone. Went to the Coreloks. Great. Wore the lead out, converted it to a 35 Whelen.

My 2nd and current 270 is a Steyr Mannlicher Pro Hunter. Shots better than the Rem, tighter groups and 140 grain pills have a MV of 3000FPS. Whats not to like. Both 270's shot/shoot monometal bullets very well, except Barnes. There TSX at least form a group previous ones were a shotgun pattern and no where near where all the others land.

After shooting the 130 gr Solid base Nosler’s, did you switch to all copper bullets?
I’m wondering how the 130gr GMX bullets do?
I know the Barnes TTSX’s are extremely popular, but at farther ranges, they seem to be like FMJ’s. They have to have enough velocity to open up, and just seem to be rather stoutly made.
Anyone else here have any opinions on them in the .270?


Hawk

 

[Rule 303]

After shooting the 130 gr Solid base Nosler’s, did you switch to all copper bullets?
I’m wondering how the 130gr GMX bullets do?
I know the Barnes TTSX’s are extremely popular, but at farther ranges, they seem to be like FMJ’s. They have to have enough velocity to open up, and just seem to be rather stoutly made.
Anyone else here have any opinions on them in the .270?


Hawk

Hawk I used some Aussie made ones ACP that have gone out of business. They were excellent out to at least 200mts. Did not get to use them past that distance. I have some other Aussie made jobs, Atomic 29 to try. At the moment I use the Hornady 140 grain Interlocks. No pig or goat that I have hit with them has complained

 

[hawkeyesatx]

Hawk I used some Aussie made ones ACP that have gone out of business. They were excellent out to at least 200mts. Did not get to use them past that distance. I have some other Aussie made jobs, Atomic 29 to try. At the moment I use the Hornady 140 grain Interlocks. No pig or goat that I have hit with them has complained

Quite a few of my friends say to use a 140 gr bullet for the .270!
They say that the 140’s offer better trajectory and higher velocities than the 150gr bullets.
Do you find that the 140 gr bullets offer better trajectories, and penetrate better?
I’m thinking the 150gr bullets offer more energy, and almost the same trajectories the 140’s. I can deal with a little slower velocities. But the 150’s offer better BC, and SD.


Hawk

 

[rdog]

Quite a few of my friends say to use a 140 gr bullet for the .270!
They say that the 140’s offer better trajectory and higher velocities than the 150gr bullets.
Do you find that the 140 gr bullets offer better trajectories, and penetrate better?
I’m thinking the 150gr bullets offer more energy, and almost the same trajectories the 140’s. I can deal with a little slower velocities. But the 150’s offer better BC, and SD.


Hawk

I have good results with 140 grain Nosler Ballistic tips & Accubonds in both 270 win & 270 WSM. on wild pigs & red deer.

 

[CBH Australia]

I have good results with 140 grain Nosler Ballistic tips & Accubonds in both 270 win & 270 WSM. on wild pigs & red deer.

Nosler. Enough said.

 

[Rule 303]

Quite a few of my friends say to use a 140 gr bullet for the .270!
They say that the 140’s offer better trajectory and higher velocities than the 150gr bullets.
Do you find that the 140 gr bullets offer better trajectories, and penetrate better?
I’m thinking the 150gr bullets offer more energy, and almost the same trajectories the 140’s. I can deal with a little slower velocities. But the 150’s offer better BC, and SD.


Hawk

I have not used the 150's on game. I have loaded some up to see how they go on paper. At this point I would- this is just me - only consider the 150's and 160's for large heavy game. Say Moose and Wapiti size or Zebra.

If your looking for a hunting bullet and are going to be using them at what I call realistic ranges, say a max of 300mts maybe 400mts, with most shots being less than 300mts then BC plays little part SD plays a bigger part. The construction of the bullet becomes the prominent consideration. It is hard to have a bullet perform well at 20mts and at 300mts. One that opens sufficently and not excessively at 50mts might just pencil through at 300mts.

In my Steyr I am getting 130 grain velocity with the 140s so what is not to like.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I have not used the 150's on game. I have loaded some up to see how they go on paper. At this point I would- this is just me - only consider the 150's and 160's for large heavy game. Say Moose and Wapiti size or Zebra.

If your looking for a hunting bullet and are going to be using them at what I call realistic ranges, say a max of 300mts maybe 400mts, with most shots being less than 300mts then BC plays little part SD plays a bigger part. The construction of the bullet becomes the prominent consideration. It is hard to have a bullet perform well at 20mts and at 300mts. One that opens sufficently and not excessively at 50mts might just pencil through at 300mts.

In my Steyr I am getting 130 grain velocity with the 140s so what is not to like.

@Rule 303
I tried the 140gn SSTs on paper and they were outstanding didn't take any game with them. The 130gn ACPs grouped 1.5 inches at 200 yards and the sambar I shot with it at 150 yards was bang flop with no bullet recovered.
Bob

 

[hawkeyesatx]

I have not used the 150's on game. I have loaded some up to see how they go on paper. At this point I would- this is just me - only consider the 150's and 160's for large heavy game. Say Moose and Wapiti size or Zebra.

If your looking for a hunting bullet and are going to be using them at what I call realistic ranges, say a max of 300mts maybe 400mts, with most shots being less than 300mts then BC plays little part SD plays a bigger part. The construction of the bullet becomes the prominent consideration. It is hard to have a bullet perform well at 20mts and at 300mts. One that opens sufficently and not excessively at 50mts might just pencil through at 300mts.

In my Steyr I am getting 130 grain velocity with the 140s so what is not to like.

I definitely don’t do any shooting at big game animals that are further than I can safely, or cleanly take one. For me, I know I can shoot 1000 - 1200 meters, but for big game hunting, I like to have as much velocity and bullet energy as I can. My own personal limit is 400 - 500 meters. But I stalk in much closer than that, because I like to see the animals quite clearly in my scope, and also want a clear field of fire when I pull my trigger. It’s not unusual for me to get well within 175 - 250 meters. That way I can make a shot in the vitals area that will incapacitate and kill with one and only one shot. I hate to wound a magnificent animal, and see it suffer.
But, it sounds like the 140 gr bullets will fill the requirements I set for myself quite admirably. So I will look for some, and load some up.



Hawk

 

[hawkeyesatx]

@Rule 303
I tried the 140gn SSTs on paper and they were outstanding didn't take any game with them. The 130gn ACPs grouped 1.5 inches at 200 yards and the sambar I shot with it at 150 yards was bang flop with no bullet recovered.
Bob

Now that is what I like to hear!!


Bang! And FLOP!!

LOL

Hawk

 

[270jagter]

I’m getting info on the .270 Winchester.

What has your experience been with it, for those who have used it?

What range of game have you gotten with yours, including African game, too?

What’s the largest animal anyone has taken with theirs, and how quickly did it dispatch the animal?

What’s the longest anyone has taken a big game animal with theirs?

If there is something I may have missed, please let me know about it and the .270 Winchester.


Hawk

Great rifle

 

[EncoreJoe]

I have my grandfather's Remington 721 in 270 Win. I don't know what he killed with it but I'm sure it was nothing larger than whitetail.

I killed an elk cow at 235 yards using 150 grain barnes "X" bullet reloads. One shot and it took a step and fell right there.

I'm thinking of restocking the rifle with a Boyd's laminate adjustable stock just to freshen it up. I like the cartridge!

 

[Dr Ray]

The 270 is a great cartridge!!
I’m on my 4th- Sako S/S and have currently as well a Tikka synthetic stock rifle.
The 270 shoots flatter and has more energy impact than either the 308 or 30/06.
I used the 270 mainly for pigs, deer (red, fallow, and Rusa).
I call the 270 the queen of the plains.
I used to load 110 grain Hornady (a needle nose hollow point) and a 130 grain bullet for deer.
Years ago a made lead alloy bullets using wheel weights and a shotgun powder that shot to the same east west but lower.
If hunting animals that are what I’d call Medium sized, then with the appropriate bullet you’ll be very pleased with the results.

 

[Wyatt Smith]

and has more energy impact than either the 308 or 30/06.

I like the 270, but come on.

 

[BeeMaa]

I like the 270, but come on.

Technically speaking @Dr Ray is correct, the 270WIN at 150 grains has more energy at 100 yards than a 308WIN 165 grain or 30-06 180 grain at 100 yards. However...it's a bit like comparing apples to much bigger apples.

Push the .30 caliber a bit faster by using a 300WM with 180 grain bullet and the 270WIN is left in the dust. Of course at the price of recoil, noise and price...but there is no free lunch. You get what you pay for. And if the the good doctor wants a 270WIN over a non-magnum .30 caliber, so be it.

I really like the 270WIN, but I would not be comparing it to any .30 caliber cartridge for performance. Energy numbers are not the end of the story, merely one of many considerations when making a caliber decision. Lots of choices out there for a reason.

 

[Dr Ray]

Technically speaking @Dr Ray is correct, the 270WIN at 150 grains has more energy at 100 yards than a 308WIN 165 grain or 30-06 180 grain at 100 yards. However...it's a bit like comparing apples to much bigger apples.

Push the .30 caliber a bit faster by using a 300WM with 180 grain bullet and the 270WIN is left in the dust. Of course at the price of recoil, noise and price...but there is no free lunch. You get what you pay for. And if the the good doctor wants a 270WIN over a non-magnum .30 caliber, so be it.

I really like the 270WIN, but I would not be comparing it to any .30 caliber cartridge for performance. Energy numbers are not the end of the story, merely one of many considerations when making a caliber decision. Lots of choices out there for a reason.

I also have a 300 Winchester magnum using 180 grain bullets. I’ve shot red deer using 150 grain bullets - killed like a bolt of lightning
But comparing 270 and say 300 Winchester magnum - not likely
Different animals
I have a 308 Kimber but personally I prefer the 270 for hunting up to deer levels.
I use the 308 for target shooting as I have it sighted in for 300 m.

 

[BeeMaa]

I also have a 300 Winchester magnum using 180 grain bullets. I’ve shot red deer using 150 grain bullets - killed like a bolt of lightning
But comparing 270 and say 300 Winchester magnum - not likely
Different animals
I have a 308 Kimber but personally I prefer the 270 for hunting up to deer levels.
I use the 308 for target shooting as I have it sighted in for 300 m.

Sorry doc, you lost me on this one. 270WIN to 308 is still not apples to apples. You are welcome to your opinion, I'll hang onto mine.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I also have a 300 Winchester magnum using 180 grain bullets. I’ve shot red deer using 150 grain bullets - killed like a bolt of lightning
But comparing 270 and say 300 Winchester magnum - not likely
Different animals
I have a 308 Kimber but personally I prefer the 270 for hunting up to deer levels.
I use the 308 for target shooting as I have it sighted in for 300 m.

@Dr Ray
As much as you like the 270 I think you should give a fast 25 ago. You may end up leaving the 270 at home. A fast 25 with a good 115gn or 120gn leaves nothing to be desired on deer, even reds. A nice 100gn ttsx at 3,400 fps proved adequate for @one day for his plains game hunt.
I will convert you to a 25 cal one day.
Bob