Anti-Hunter Attack

[K-man]

First, the beating of another human for simply protecting their own property is maddening.
But I also have to remind myself I look at things from a uniquely American perspective, where self defense and protecting your property is encouraged. Around here those perpetrators probably would just be missing. Prayers for his recovery and a change of attitude towards legal hunting.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Europeans, along with Canadians and Australians have been so indoctrinated against the idea of self defence that they just can't do it. I see the same thing here in large cities where only the criminals are armed. I don't think, however, that most anti-hunters would try to physically attack an armed.hunter. Good way to get shot.

I’m willing to bet there are more fist fights on the wharf I fish from in the run of a year than your local pub/bar. Don’t let the liberal media of Canada fool you there are still Canadians who can and will defend themselves there just not in Toronto or Montreal so it doesn’t make the news.

 

[Red Leg]

That's an ill-informed over generalization.

We are quite within our rights to defend ourselves within the law and many Canadian citizens do so daily. (Cross the border and test your theory at your peril.)

For your edification.
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/rsddp-rlddp/p5.html

This poor unfortunate Belgian man was disabled (dislocated shoulder) and was unable to protect himself from the sociopath that continued to attack him after he was down.

Have you had a bad camera experience?

 

[Flbt]

Well no matter where your at the 3 s
Still work
Shoot
Shovel
A shut the $&$ up

 

[double rifle newbie]

drop one and the rest will scatter.

 

[93marlin]

They're called "activists". The crimes that they have been committing world wide are called "protest's" and "demonstrations".
They are nothing but terrorists and in some cases, killers.
And they ALL should be treated as such.

I'll stand down from my soapbox now.

 

[Newboomer]

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Europeans, along with Canadians and Australians have been so indoctrinated against the idea of self defence that they just can't do it. I see the same thing here in large cities where only the criminals are armed. I don't think, however, that most anti-hunters would try to physically attack an armed.hunter. Good way to get shot.

One knee, two knee, one arm, two arm, etc.

 

[DieJager]

Why do you think he was unarmed? He was hunting. Shooting someone even in self defense will get you arrested in Europe, Australia and probably Canada.

Yup, I'm a little bit north of Belgium. We encounter this a lot. A lot of aggression.

You'll lose your license and they confiscate your guns just for the perception of a threat. Hunting is not a right the same as owning guns. It is a privilege and they make sure you understand you can lose it instantly.

We have yearly renewals and each year they sit you down with the police for a interview. If you did something wrong even if it is not breaking the law. For instance getting in a rowdy discussion with somewhen when hunting you can already lose everything. They expect nothing of the best behavior.

This means that every hunter will try to avoid any situation that can lead to a conflict. In this situation the hunter was in a bad spot. Get a beating or try to fight back and losing everything. If he used or only pointed his gun he is probably in a bad situation of losing everything.

 

[Miletic]

Why do you think he was unarmed? He was hunting. Shooting someone even in self defense will get you arrested in Europe, Australia and probably Canada.

I would definitely use a weapon. First, such people are dangerous for the environment. They can hurt not only the hunter, what if I took my daughter with me to take food to the hunting grounds. Although the law in the country where I live is rigorous and I would certainly end up in prison, I would defend myself with a firearm without thinking. This does not mean that I would kill the attacker, but I certainly would not allow him to hurt my family and me. I would like to see that judge who would interpret my act of self-defense as vandalism and acquit the attackers

 

[Muskox]

The force escalation here in Europe, to the point where you would be able to use a firearm against someone to protect yourself is sky high.

A knife attacker can really only be thwarted by a knife or a cricket bat, unless you are a police officer. Luckily police offers have more freedom.

 

[uplander01]

The force escalation here in Europe, to the point where you would be able to use a firearm against someone to protect yourself is sky high.

A knife attacker can really only be thwarted by a knife or a cricket bat, unless you are a police officer. Luckily police offers have more freedom.

All I can say is this is insane. I won’t live anywhere ever in my life where this is the logic. Thank God in the USA we have the “castle doctrine and stand you ground” laws. What happened to the Belgium man should never happen in a civilized society. Just because you don’t agree with someone that is actively pursuing a legal activity doesn’t give anyone the right to harm another person. Fact is these left wing whacko doodles have placed just enough doubt in a lot of people minds about this god given right to defend yourself.because they don’t have any fundamental value system…have faith and belief in nothing, be affable to anything. Add to that the reality that taking a human life is something some people just can’t do. I feel for and pray for this guy…that’s going to be hard to come back from

 

[AZDAVE]

Prayers for a quick recovery.

Things like this should not happen or be tolerated. Unfortunately the world is very divided on many things. The ones that say they are about peace and love etc are usually the first to raise a violent hand. Be in fanatic activism or just plain old uneducated.

Thug, bullies, and low lifes should be dealt with. no need to use a firearm. there are many ways to defend yourself.

 

[MarkB]

I think after recovery a new "hunt" would start.

MB

 

[Muskox]

All I can say is this is insane. I won’t live anywhere ever in my life where this is the logic. Thank God in the USA we have the “castle doctrine and stand you ground” laws. What happened to the Belgium man should never happen in a civilized society. Just because you don’t agree with someone that is actively pursuing a legal activity doesn’t give anyone the right to harm another person. Fact is these left wing whacko doodles have placed just enough doubt in a lot of people minds about this god given right to defend yourself.because they don’t have any fundamental value system…have faith and belief in nothing, be affable to anything. Add to that the reality that taking a human life is something some people just can’t do. I feel for and pray for this guy…that’s going to be hard to come back from

I think it depends more on the state in the USA.

When I lived in New Mexico some old white dude killed some non-white robbers a little too candidly and the white governor decided that he was wrong and she would get the laws changed to remove castle doctrine.

Even if New Mexico survived the castle doctrine attack, other states were not so fortunate.

Conservative states are lucky. Those that are not so conservative, are not.

 

[C.W. Richter]

The punchline would've changed, Here. LOL We kind of expect that, outside the USA. What lengths they'll go to for such a political setup nowadays, in the bought-and-sold Land of the Libs...

 

[Doug Hamilton]

I’m willing to bet there are more fist fights on the wharf I fish from in the run of a year than your local pub/bar. Don’t let the liberal media of Canada fool you there are still Canadians who can and will defend themselves there just not in Toronto or Montreal so it doesn’t make the news.

Fighting? Sure. Now what happens if a bigger, stronger opponent or opponents attacks you while you are armed and you shoot them? Yes, you will still be alive, but you will.be alive in jail or prison. I live near Canada (B.C.), and from what I can tell there is no "justifiable homicide" or other provision that allows you to kill a perpetrator that attacks you. This is what I have been told by Canadians, but like I said,.this could be wrong. You guys can't even have handguns.

Ask the Australians or Brits how self defence laws work for them. they can't even carry pocket knives. Canada may not be quite that bad yet, but it seems to be.moving that direction. We have the same.problem in Liberal states and cities in the US. They think that it's just as bad if a criminal dies as if the victim does. Fortunately, the Libs here are somewhat restrained by the 2nd Amendment.