505 gibbs load suggestion

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

Matt, Don't be too hasty before purchasing one of those .40's. Well, not until you've shot my .416Rigby in anyways.

 

[matt85]

Marius have you experienced a big difference between the 416 Remington and the 416 Rigby? while I haven't tried either, I have fired my 500/416 NE plenty of times (400gr at 2325fps) and found it very enjoyable.

-matt

 

[matt85]

doctari505, something I just noticed about the North Fork 600gr CPS sample pack that arrived last week is the bullets appear to be of different design then the ones in your article. http://kilimanjarorifles.com/press-kevin-robertson-article.html

the new design has a much smaller cup and a bevel in place around the cup which I assume is there to assist feeding. (http://www.northforkbullets.com/magento/products/bullets/?bweight=25)

have you tried this new design? is it still as effective?

thanks
-matt

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

Marius have you experienced a big difference between the 416 Remington and the 416 Rigby? while I haven't tried either, I have fired my 500/416 NE plenty of times (400gr at 2325fps) and found it very enjoyable.

-matt

Matt,
Shooting the .416Rigby is total bliss! I'll tell you that I will shoot it 10 times over, rather than shoot my .300Win. Completely different recoil. The case capacity of the Rigby means that it operates at lower pressure levels. I read of a hunter who I could quite easily track down, that loads his .416Rigby to generate in excess of 6000ft/lbs of energy, which in essence means that it outperforms the .458Lott with its 500gr pill.
The great Sir Isaac Newton taught us for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, which in essence means that at these loads ,what goes out the front, must be reacted in a rearward motion.
But, since you are looking at shooting the big Gibbs, this should not be a problem for you. I, myself, don't enjoy having my retinas torn from my eyeballs...

 

[matt85]

I, myself, don't enjoy having my retinas torn from my eyeballs...

doctors can fix that now right?

ive heard the 416 Rigby can be loaded to 2600fps but I cant picture that being any fun to shoot. something about the higher velocities that makes the recoil tougher to handle. my 375 H&H loaded with my hand loads (300gr bullet at 2500fps) delivers less recoil then my 500/416 NE (400gr at 2300fps) but the 375 H&H will leave my shoulder a little sore after lots of shooting while my 500/416 NE seems to have little to no lasting effects. im perfectly happy with 400gr at 2300fps in both performance and recoil. that's why im considering the 416 Remington as well as the 416 Rigby. the 416 Remington if pushed hard can get a 400gr to 2500fps but in standard loads it sits nicely at 2300fps.

-matt

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

I have found my .416Rigby to recoil less than my .375H&H

 

[enysse]

You know what they say about perception Marius....lol

Yes, it not possible for the 300 Win Mag or the 375 H&H to out recoil the 416 Rigby. I have shot all 3 and the 416 Rigby seperates from the rest with ease . Physics 101!

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

Eric,
It comes down to felt recoil, really. I will shoot that .416Rigby all day long, as compared to the sharp kick of the .300Win Mag.

 

[massad]

Eric,
It comes down to felt recoil, really. I will shoot that .416Rigby all day long, as compared to the sharp kick of the .300Win Mag.

 

[massad]

Hey Fellas,
Having shot the CZ .416 Rigby and Remington in .416 I have found the Remmy with @10% less recoil with similar performance of 400 grain @2300. I prefer my .458 Lott which is 10% again heavier recoil than the aforementioned Rigby but in a rifle that fits me well and this makes all the difference.

Having the MRC .505, I can say this is a fun rifle to shoot! Welcome Doctari! Recently purchased your book "The Perfect Shot II" I can highly recommend it to anyone interested in hunting Africa with a wealth of information on calibers and proper shot placement. I would ask if you would be okay with me emailing you for suggestions on reloading recipes (to be used at my own risk of course) for 525 grain and 600 grain bullet loadings. Also anything on low powered practice rounds, possibly using Trail Boss or 5744? Thank you again and thank you to all responding on this thread.
Dr. Mike

 

[enysse]

Eric,
It comes down to felt recoil, really. I will shoot that .416Rigby all day long, as compared to the sharp kick of the .300Win Mag.

For some reason I think they both kick sharp and hard. I love their ballistics but the 300 Win Mag has moved to back of the closet.

 

[ActionBob]

Just thought it was interesting that CZ loads and labels ammo for the 505