375 H&H Muzzle Brake?

[M70375!]

I disagree completely. Put a break on your rifle if you want to. It’s your rifle and I assume your safari. Your PH will or should have hearing protection on. If installing a break on your gun reduces the change of any flinch or improves your enjoyment of using the rifle in its intended way, then that is the best outcome. I hunt Africa, shoot long range, and have breaks on several large bore rifles, including my 375 H&H. You do what is best for you and good luck in Africa.

I agree with you 100%

 

[mdwest]

RSL,

I have several 5/8X24 brakes I've taken off rifles over the years in order to put suppressor mounts on. I'd be happy to mail you one if you'll PM me your address.

I'm not a brake guy, but would rather see them get used than sit on my work bench for years at a time.

I might still have a brake that I pulled off of a 458 SOCOM in my parts box... Im pretty sure its a 5/8 x 24, and would have a large enough hole in the brake for a 375 bullet to pass through..

It might be a bit unsightly on a Win 70... but, if I can find it, it would certainly work, and the OP is welcome to mine as well.. I dont have the 458 SOCOM any longer and have no use for the brake at all..

 

[fourfive8]

Suppressor and good pad. There is a reason you don’t see many brakes but quite a few suppressors. on rifles in Africa. Stupid, antiquated “anti gangsta” laws in US continue to stigmatize the suppressor but deem hearing damaging, flinch causing brakes to be peachy keen. Shooters are just as likely to develop a flinch from shooting a rifle with a brake or shooting next to rifles with brakes as from shooting a rifle with heavy recoil. The shooter, nearby shooters, observers at the shooting range and other hunters, trackers, PHs are all negatively affected by brakes. Hearing damage/loss is real for PHs and trackers who have to continuously endure it. Some will say something, some are too polite to say anything about what they really think. Anyone spending time next to rifles fired with brakes learn to detest brakes. PHs and trackers hesitate to complain because they depend on tips from the great white hunter who feels a necessity to use a brake

 

[skydiver386]

Gentleman, you are not doing this man any favors.

If someone has a physical limitation or disability, they alone are the one that can determine how much recoil they can tolerate.

I feel the same way most of you do about muzzle brakes, but there are times when maximum recoil reduction is necessary, and this is one of them. @PARA45 has already made one good suggestion with the PAST recoil shield. Another suggestion would be a good recoil reducer in the butt.

Muzzle brakes like the one in the picture above are the most efficient at reducing recoil, but they are also the loudest.

I have several types on big bore rifles, but I plan on removing them and replacing them with thread protectors. Give me a chance to take one off a particular rifle and you are welcome to it. Try and see if it works for you. My bet is that if you use a PAST recoil shield, a buttstock recoil reducer and muzzle brake together, you'll develop shooting techniques to deal with the recoil, and eventually outgrow the need for the brake. In that case just unthread it and put on a thread protector.

Just know before you do this that they do work. The downside is that they do a fantastic job of converting recoil to noise. Ear plugs and ear muffs at the same time are a good idea when shooting a rifle with a device like this. Also be a gentleman and notify everyone that may be close by before lighting one off, either at the range or on a hunt.

Edit: I see others have already offered to help out by sending brakes. Great group of guys around here willing to help a fellow member.

 

[rookhawk]

This is the Africa Hunting forum, not the "lets go shoot at the range forum". The OP has a CRF action safari rifle in 375HH. That fact plus his attendance on this forum suggests he intends to go on safari.

Therefore, most people here are giving him advice suitable for a safari rifle to be used safari hunting.

That advice is don't get a muzzle brake.

Lets count the reasons:

1.) Annoying everywhere
2.) It will block your iron sight picture
3.) You'll see it through your scope if you have scoped your DG rifle correctly
4.) It's more crap to get snagged in the bush, when getting on sticks, etc.
5.) If he's afraid of recoil, we can solve that problem properly without a brake. As stated, shooting off sticks solves recoil almost entirely and of course practicing with safari rifles off shooting benches has zero real-world applicability, he should be practicing off sticks anyway.
6.) More recoil solutions included loads that I cited that will reduce recoil 25% yet it will ballistically be the same as a full power 9.3x62mm load.
7.) Others are mentioning shooting pads and recoil pads, yes that can be done too.
8.) A mercury recoil reducer alone will reduce 10% of the recoil by adding a pound to the rifle.

If this advice is deemed invalid because the OP is hell bent on a muzzle brake, then that's a different matter for a different interest group than Africa Hunting with a 375HH. I'm sure the long range shooting forum would have all manner of advice on cans and brakes for the bench rest shooting community.

 

[M70375!]

OK, OK, I know how most of you feel about brakes. But I am older than dirt and have not shot anything that large in probably 50 years. So I would like a little help in the recoil department until I get used to it.

My problem is I have searched a good bit without finding a brake for a 375 rifle. I am picking up my new to me M70 Classic Super Express either tomorrow or Friday. If anyone has information on where I can order a brake at a reasonable price please let me know. BTW, I believe it is threaded
5/8-24. View attachment 709939Thanks,
Stan

I hear you,I'm 71 and have some serious issues with my neck and can't shoot anything bigger than 270 without neck problems and using brakes allows me to enjoy shooting my 375 and 416 Rem. To each his own, please put a brake on and enjoy your shooting. These guns are so loud that folks should use hearing protection anyway, brake or no brake. I always ask my ph if he has a problem with me using a brake and have never heard a complaint. I will buy a pair of Pro Ears electronic hearing plugs and give pair to my ph, most of the time they forget to use them, so they must not take it to seriously.
I have a lot of experience with brakes and I can tell you the best brake on the market is built by Nathan Wright at Muzzle Brakes and More out of Idaho. That's the name of his websiteMuzzle Brakes And More. Put a 5 port brake on. If your rifle is already threaded , you can mark top dead center on your thread protector and send it to him and he can time your brake for an extra $30, then you won't have to hire a gunsmith to do it. I prefer the titanium brakes he makes, they cost a little more than steel, but they only weigh a few ounces. Give him the diameter of your muzzle and he will taper the brake to your muzzle size. Doing all of that will cost $180-$200 ready to shoot. You can save some without all the extras I mentioned.
Like I said to each his own, if you want a brake, get one and pay no attention to other opinions. Don't waste your time with recoil reducers in the stock, they do very little, I even put 2 of then in a stock but they did very little other than make my rifle heavy to carry.
A friend of mine used to love shooting his big rifles, no brakes. He has had 2 detached retina fixed and had to have shoulder surgery. Don't abuse yourself, get a brake. I also use a Limbsaver or Kickezz recoil pad .

 

[RSL]

RSL,

I have several 5/8X24 brakes I've taken off rifles over the years in order to put suppressor mounts on. I'd be happy to mail you one if you'll PM me your address.

I'm not a brake guy, but would rather see them get used than sit on my work bench for years at a time.

PM sent. Thank you for your generous offer.
Much appreciated.
Stan

 

[kfreeze]

Check out this guy. He has some good videos on his site too. If he doesn't have one listed you can probably call and get one for .375.

muzzlebrakesandmore.com

 

[curt672]

Try a company called AREA 419 -- they will hook you up . I got one for my 416WM.

 

[BeeMaa]

Practice, practice and more practice. Dry fire two to three times a week followed by one live fire session of 4-8 shots once a week will have nearly anyone shooting a 375H&H properly without a brake.

If you choose to get a brake for practicing alone and then take it off for hunting, that would also be a good option. Just make sure there’s no shift in POI with & without the brake.

If my narrow little butt can handle full power loads in a sub 8 lb rifle, so can just about anyone. For the record, I’m 70” and 160 lbs.

 

[Bonk]

This is the Africa Hunting forum, not the "lets go shoot at the range forum". The OP has a CRF action safari rifle in 375HH. That fact plus his attendance on this forum suggests he intends to go on safari.

Therefore, most people here are giving him advice suitable for a safari rifle to be used safari hunting.

That advice is don't get a muzzle brake.

Lets count the reasons:

1.) Annoying everywhere
2.) It will block your iron sight picture
3.) You'll see it through your scope if you have scoped your DG rifle correctly
4.) It's more crap to get snagged in the bush, when getting on sticks, etc.
5.) If he's afraid of recoil, we can solve that problem properly without a brake. As stated, shooting off sticks solves recoil almost entirely and of course practicing with safari rifles off shooting benches has zero real-world applicability, he should be practicing off sticks anyway.
6.) More recoil solutions included loads that I cited that will reduce recoil 25% yet it will ballistically be the same as a full power 9.3x62mm load.
7.) Others are mentioning shooting pads and recoil pads, yes that can be done too.
8.) A mercury recoil reducer alone will reduce 10% of the recoil by adding a pound to the rifle.

If this advice is deemed invalid because the OP is hell bent on a muzzle brake, then that's a different matter for a different interest group than Africa Hunting with a 375HH. I'm sure the long range shooting forum would have all manner of advice on cans and brakes for the bench rest shooting community.

If and when he ever asks whether or not to get a muzzle brake your response is appropriate. Until then you’re offering an unasked for opinion that doesn’t answer the original question of where to purchase a muzzle brake.

 

[375Ruger416]

OK, OK, I know how most of you feel about brakes. But I am older than dirt and have not shot anything that large in probably 50 years. So I would like a little help in the recoil department until I get used to it.
View attachment 709939Thanks,
Stan

‘Until I get used to it.’ Since some of us are moralizing on the ethics of brakes, I thought I would suggest a little reading comprehension and trying to answer the question asked. I recommend finding the solution that works best for you that is legal, and working towards shooting and hunting with a brake IF POSSIBLE is good advice.

Glad to hear that you have had some muzzle brakes offered. The advice to mitigate recoil through all other means is good as well. IME, stock fit, stock shape and a good recoil pad are critical. I prefer hunting with a suppressor with a shorter barreled rifle, but it is not legal here in Canada or many other places. For this reason, I sometimes practice with a brake, but hunt without. I have a 300 PRC I shoot braked at the range, but was able to put a borrowed suppressor on when I went to Namibia. However, this led to a long rifle (~ 32 inch barrel) which didn’t affect me for plains game, but will alter the balance and handling of a DG rifle adversely. See picture below.

I also find rifle brakes obnoxious as are rifle reports without hearing protection. However, they are useful in certain circumstances.

 

[62flint]

I wouldn’t put a break on a classic 375hh.
But I have salmon river solution brakes on a few of my modern rifles. They work very well. But are very loud

 

[buffybr]

MAGNA Port will do the job for you and the heck with the comments. It’s your rifle and your hunt. Forget the sideline interference. Just make sure the brake can be removed if YOU want at some future time.
Good luck and good choice.

The purpose of MAGNA Porting is to reduce muzzle jump. From their own advertizing, it will only reduce felt recoil by about 15%. A muzzle brake will reduce felt recoil by up to 50% or more.

I bought my .375 RUM in 2004. At that time I was 58 years old, 6'1" and 220 #, lifted weights 3 times a week and golfed 4-5 times a week. Since the late '70s, throughout the year, if I'm home, I to to the range every week and shoot 3-4 pistols, including one of my .44 magnums and 1911 .45 acp, 2-4 rifles at the 200-430 yd gongs, then shoot 3-4 lines of 12 ga Skeet. I re-stock or modify the stocks on all of my rifles and shotguns to fit me.

The first trip to the range with my new .375 RUM, it's recoil was so bad that I barely got the scope zeroed. So I sent it to a shop in Arizona to have the barrel ported. When I got it back, I took it to the range, and after only 3 or 4 shots, the ported end of the barrel blew off. I sent it back to Remington for a new barrel, and when I got it home, I had a local gunsmith install a KDF muzzle brake on it.

That brake made it comfortable enough to shoot off the bench and prone, and I was able to develope a 3-shot moa load with 300 gr Barnes TSX bullets. After my first trip to Zimbabwe and South Africa with it I also installed a recoil reducer on it's stock, and have taken it on another South African and an Alaskan hunt.

I liked that KDF muzzle brake so much that when I bought my .300 Wby I had a KDF brake installed on it before I fired my first shot through it. That quickly became my favorite rifle and have used it on multiple hunts here in Montana and Mozambique, Texas, South Africa, Canada, Azerbaijan, and New Zealand.

On my first hunt in Mozambique, I shared the camp with our own @BRICKBURN. The Sable weren't cooperating enough for him to kill one with his sharp sticks, so on his last day, he killed his bull with my .300 Wby.

 

[RSL]

I am on the road today. I will try to get back to this tonight. I appreciate all the responses. Even the negative posts. ;-)

 

[rookhawk]

I am on the road today. I will try to get back to this tonight. I appreciate all the responses. Even the negative posts. ;-)

Whether you get a brake or not, for your particular rifle the best thing you can do is shoot it with iron sights or extra low rings and a straight tube scope. Even better if you're shooting it off sticks. The reason is you will get good face contact on the stock.

Shooting it off the bench will require you to lift your face off the stock more, leading to a punching of the remainder of your face. The bigger the scope and the taller the rings, the recoil amplifies significantly.

You'll find I am the most recoil averse shooter on this forum. I make it work on everything from small bores to large Nitro Express rifles. You have many tools in your toolbag to make shooting your rifle comfortable. Just remember that it is a hunting tool and the stock was built to manage recoil with iron sights while you are in a standing position.

 

[jbirdwell]

American Precision Arms carries a self timing 375 brake but muzzle threads are 7/8-24 so you would need to get an adapter but that should be easy enough

https://www.americanprecisionarms.c...oducts/gen2-xx-bastard?variant=12414146052193

 

[Hooked Now]

Agree with all posts about responding to the question as asked. I did a fast search on MidwayUSA and there were two brakes in stock in the .375 caliber group. I'm not familiar with either and I would bet that most brakes are roughly similar, but it looks like Midway could solve your problem at reasonable $. Enjoy the new rig. .375H&H is a fun caliber. And you chose a great rifle.

 

[454]

Recently, I’ve been playing with a braked 458 Lott. I have to say after 50 rounds off the bench it is a joy to shoot. Yes it recoils but it is not in the least bit punishing to the shoulder. The rifle comes straight back with little rise. I have no idea what brand brake it is, it appears to be a quite break with a perforated inner tube surrounded by another perforated tube separated by a small gap. The holes are not aligned between the inner and outer tube. (Maybe someone out there can identify the make) Im sure the recoil is still that of a 375 without a break. I bring a half dozen pairs of ear plugs on lanyards and hand them out at the beginning of my 454 Casull pistol hunts.

 

[BRICKBURN]

.............
On my first hunt in Mozambique, I shared the camp with our own @BRICKBURN. The Sable weren't cooperating enough for him to kill one with his sharp sticks, so on his last day, he killed his bull with my .300 Wby.

Who's generosity I am thankful for to this day.