Leading Scientists Set Out Resource Challenge Of Meeting Net Zero Emissions In The UK By 2050

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This is an interesting twist on the whole discussion...huh, no free lunch?? Carbon debate - maybe more planning needed?

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/press-office/...ut-resource-challenge-of-meeting-net-zer.html


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In short not feasible. Law and policy makers need to take a serious look at what existing technology is capable of before setting goals that cannot possibly be met.
 
This is talking about just the UK. When you figure how much bigger the US demand would be the amounts of resources needed becomes almost incomprehensible. It sounds fine but the numbers tell a different story.
 
Unfortunately the group listening to the group of people willing to promise the world and pay for it on the backs of the taxpayer is growing exponentially, while the group of people willing to look rationally and address the issues rationally is decreasing at approximately equal rates...
 
Emotional "It sounds great. Let's do it" thing again. Not much thought going into it but those people don't do much thinking.
 
Now we've got a another whack job, the governor of some northwestern state that wants all electric cars by a certain date. These bozos need to take one course on what it takes to produce a battery and then keep recharging it. The same bozos are against nuclear. I guess they want a billion wind turbines trashing the landscape. Then again we could build more hydro dams. Oh wait, that would hurt the fish population and threaten some obscure soon to be extinct creature or amoeba. One thing's for sure, the stupidity of some people is infinte.
 

This is an all organic means of transportation. :sneaky:
 
Yeah but a horse farting doesn't sound quite as good as my 6.2 litre V8 AMG with the accelerator wide open.....;):whistle:

Unromantic o_O:whistle:;)
 
Yeah but a horse farting doesn't sound quite as good as my 6.2 litre V8 AMG with the accelerator wide open.....;):whistle:

Not much does
 
One horsepower and a large set of wheels is all you need. but I want to get where I'm going sometime today.
 
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That is "Green Romance>"

John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara demonstrating how to be environmentally friendly and romantic and the same time in the movie The Quiet Man.

This also provides an opportunity for a plethora of 10 year old boys to have a worthwhile meaning in life. Cleaning up the poop and using it to grow their mother's vegetable garden. Now all we have to do is get rid of cell phones. :D
 
When "The Quiet Man" was made the world population was around 3 billion. Now it's around 7.5 billion. In 2050, when my oldest grandchild will be 47, what is the projection? Seems to me we should be trying to figure out how to feed and shelter everyone.
 
When "The Quiet Man" was made the world population was around 3 billion. Now it's around 7.5 billion. In 2050, when my oldest grandchild will be 47, what is the projection? Seems to me we should be trying to figure out how to feed and shelter everyone.

It is at the Land-Grant Universities in the U. S. and their equivalents through out the world that are developing these ideas. Start sending your grandchild info on these Universities.

Land-Grant Universities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_land-grant_universities

I highly support Texas A&M but there is that school in Louisiana that has produced one or two good graduates such as @Redleg. :D

These are the universities that will provide a useful education in fields like agriculture, engineering, and even education.
 
When "The Quiet Man" was made the world population was around 3 billion. Now it's around 7.5 billion. In 2050, when my oldest grandchild will be 47, what is the projection? Seems to me we should be trying to figure out how to feed and shelter everyone.

A Sisyphean task.:(
 
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I really think if you're this much against pollution and climate change, go for nuclear. If you can research the technology to make it more viable, safe, and efficent, you can easily produce sufficent clean energy.
 
When "The Quiet Man" was made the world population was around 3 billion. Now it's around 7.5 billion. In 2050, when my oldest grandchild will be 47, what is the projection? Seems to me we should be trying to figure out how to feed and shelter everyone.

You've hit the nail on the head. We aren't looking at the pollution, energy, climate change (though this is WAY overstated), and resources issues in the correct light...bottom line is we have too many people on this rock and it isn't going to be able to handle another 5 billion bodies. Population control is the answer but no one seems willing to deal with that. No, we don't need to start whacking people, but controlling worldwide birth rates over decades would bring the population down to a more sustainable level. I know, MUCH easier said than done, but the alternative is we cap out our ability to house/clothe/feed our oversized species's population, rape the planet to the point it truly begins to degrade, and/or exhaust our resources. We've progressed so far medically/scientifically that we are essentially countering nature's checks and balances on a species's growth and expansion. We have no natural predators really, outside of decease, and we've managed to keep even that predator at bay or defeat it in many instances. I'm no greenie/tree hugger by any stretch of the imagination, and this really has nothing to do with environmentalism, it's more resource management and allocation awareness. So unless we get very lucky and we figure out cold fusion, which physics says we probably won't, or some other extremely efficient, sustainable and clean energy solution, we are either going to deal with over population at some point or push our planet and species to the point of no return and/or simply destroy ourselves fighting wars over remaining resources. A little heavy, I know, but it is the grim reality of what we are seeing happen on our home rock.....
 

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