Westley Richards 500 Nitro...

PCC600 said:
I could fell the barrels twisting when fired . Too much metal removed in the action.
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Wow! This i have never heard...also never shot one. I have a buddy with a .470 droplock that he inherited. I'll ask him his thoughts.
 
Bullthrower338 said:
There are plenty of guys in Houston that can buy that with no more thought than most of us buying a M77 Ruger. Gordy’s makes a guy realize how much money you don’t have when you walk in the vault! Quite a store to just see.
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Well it could be someone from anywhere, not necessarily Houston. The rich are getting richer, they have sold in the past to outside customers many guns well north of 220K
 
PCC600 said:
I could fell the barrels twisting when fired . Too much metal removed in the action.
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Might’ve had more to do with the caliber than the Drop Lock Action. I have a WR Drop Lock myself, along with a Rigby and have owner another 1/2 dozen doubles, and shot a bunch of other peoples including Best Model Rising Bites, Jeffery’s, and Hollands without ever experiencing that feeling.
 
@PCC600 any idea when the 577 you shot was manufactured? Have you shot any other drop locks in different calibers?
 
Mtn_Infantry said:
@PCC600 any idea when the 577 you shot was manufactured? Have you shot any other drop locks in different calibers?
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The rifle had hinged floor plate and made circa 1920s . I have also used 577 NEs from H&H ( a Royal side lock ) and Fraser ( a box lock ) - no problems . I have shot a 470NE box lock - lovely rifle . I really like WR rifles ( got 4 including a side lock double rifle ) . I think the full power 577 NE is just too much for the action .
 
Mtn_Infantry said:
Might’ve had more to do with the caliber than the Drop Lock Action. I have a WR Drop Lock myself, along with a Rigby and have owner another 1/2 dozen doubles, and shot a bunch of other peoples including Best Model Rising Bites, Jeffery’s, and Hollands without ever experiencing that feeling.
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It is interesting what one can feel or perceive on different days while shooting. Certainly, with handguns there have been sessions whereby I was fully tuned-in to the chain of mechanical events occurring in my hands. Those days were few and far between over 50 years of hunting or shooting.

When my 16.25# 600NE droplock discharges all that I experience is a horrendous explosion that obviates any other “feelings”. I don’t anticipate one of those “time slowed down” situations with this mean brute. I am just hanging on.
 
BayouRobert said:
It is interesting what one can feel or perceive on different days while shooting. Certainly, with handguns there have been sessions whereby I was fully tuned-in to the chain of mechanical events occurring in my hands. Those days were few and far between over 50 years of hunting or shooting.

When my 16.25# 600NE droplock discharges all that I experience is a horrendous explosion that obviates any other “feelings”. I don’t anticipate one of those “time slowed down” situations with this mean brute. I am just hanging on.
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Do you actually have fun shooting the .600 Nitro Express though? And by handguns, are you referring to pistols/revolvers?


I can relate to that. I own a few Staccato's, including the XC with the built in compensator, and after shooting them I’ll sometimes run a few rounds through my daily carry Glock 19 and the difference is immediately noticeable.

I remember reading a famous author telling his son after firing a .600 Nitro Express, “Son, there is no animal on earth that needs this kind of firepower.”
 
PCC600 said:
The rifle had hinged floor plate and made circa 1920s . I have also used 577 NEs from H&H ( a Royal side lock ) and Fraser ( a box lock ) - no problems . I have shot a 470NE box lock - lovely rifle . I really like WR rifles ( got 4 including a side lock double rifle ) . I think the full power 577 NE is just too much for the action .
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I’ve never shot a .577 or larger so I’ll defer to your experience but was curious if it had something to do with the caliber and/or fit of the rifle on that action. In the slightly smaller calibers the WR’s seem to shoulder a feeling amazingly better for me compared to most any other modern double.

I would’ve agreed with @BayouRobert in just feeling the big explosion he feels with his .600NE and not being able to feel the inner workings. It’s not like a super soft shooting handgun or a low recoiling rifle that doesn’t move and you feel the bolt reciprocating as you spot your own rounds on target.
 
SStomcat said:
Do you actually have fun shooting the .600 Nitro Express though? And by handguns, are you referring to pistols/revolvers?


I can relate to that. I own a few Staccato's, including the XC with the built in compensator, and after shooting them I’ll sometimes run a few rounds through my daily carry Glock 19 and the difference is immediately noticeable.

I remember reading a famous author telling his son after firing a .600 Nitro Express, “Son, there is no animal on earth that needs this kind of firepower.”
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I enjoy:
Looking at it
Dry firing it
Loading ammo for it
And all the deficit deadlifts, bent over rows, and upright rows that I am doing to be able to heft and wield it.
The explosion: No. I don’t like that.

I was mainly talking about 1980’s - 1990’s hunting handguns (44s, 375JDJs, 45-70’s, 50AE), and rare events where time slowed down and one shot way way above one’s known capacity with those moderate recoilers.

With a maxed-out 6” 475 Linebaugh with 420 grainers, all that I ever perceived was 50 lb ft of recoil, coming at my face at 20+ fps. Like the 600, I never appreciated any other happenings during, or immediately after, its discharge. It’s crazy accurate; but for me, it’s not “fun”.
 
From experience, shooting a Holland & Holland Royal .600 ejector belonging to a friend was quite fun.. It is properly weighed (16lbs 2 oz.) and well balanced.. heavy recoil but not so fast.

We shot Kynamco full power ammo (aka 110 grain cordite), cronoed at 1900fps from 26" barrels.

Original Kynoch gave 1948fps in that rifle.. (!)

The rifle was made in 1921 for The Mahajara of Rewa (who also owned a .600 Jeffery).

The rifle:

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Pondoro said:
From experience, shooting a Holland & Holland Royal .600 ejector belonging to a friend was quite fun.. It is properly weighed (16lbs 2 oz.) and well balanced.. heavy recoil but not so fast.

We shot Kynamco full power ammo (aka 110 grain cordite), cronoed at 1900fps from 26" barrels.

Original Kynoch gave 1948fps in that rifle.. (!)

The rifle was made in 1921 for The Mahajara of Rewa (who also owned a .600 Jeffery).

The rifle:

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The original 600NE ballistic performance was based on rifles with 28 inch barrels . Take 2 inches off the barrel and you lose 50fps .
 
Certus said:
Even with the metal buttplate? Blimey you’d feel it.
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No doubt about that, but sometimes you’ve just gotta change your tampon and knuckle up
 
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