Politics

[CJW]

Again, you have to define homosexual first though.. our definition isnt the same as theirs..

merely participating in a homosexual act in many parts of the middle east does not make someone a homosexual per their standards..

when you decide you only like people of the same sex and refuse to have sex with the opposite sex, or you live an openly homosexual lifestyle do many see you as a "homosexual"..

Frankly I don't think they know what they consider homosexual. Why have I seen videos of taliban in Afghanistan in cities with plenty of women acting way too friendly to young, not super masculine looking white foreigners? I've heard ex military tell of similar stories having to watch out for similar men. I look at that as seeking out a preference. When I hear the "Women are for procreation, men/boys are for fun", I view that as seeking out a preference as you have referred to. I think it's a matter of semantics or masculine vs effeminate gay guy. The effeminate guy gets targeted. Maybe it's a learned preference.

 

[CJW]

Not the same folks I suspect.

You can get sex change surgery in Iran if you want it. You can't in Saudi.

I've read that families sign off on that because if their little boy changes to look like a girl and then dates or marries a boy it's okay. Vice versa for girls. Not sure on the validity of it but read it a long time ago.

 

[Scott CWO]

It's all the same back and forth. They call us immoral, you say their homosexual acts are immoral. Just the same tribal name calling. It goes nowhere.

But, for this specific action to be called out as immoral, the politician etc would have to start with the premise that consensual homosexuality is immoral. That isn't going to happen.

Are you asleep? Or participating in the same things? My point is that lots of Muslim men view Western culture as sexually immoral and our women as whores for how they dress and have sexual relations while at the same time some Muslim men are banging each other and little boys and nobody cares?

 

[Brent in Az]

Uber driver caught in Florida charged with setting the Palisades fire.

Uber driver arrested for 'maliciously' igniting deadly Palisades Fire, feds announce

A news conference is expected to give details Wednesday on an arrest in connection to the deadly Pacific Palisades fire that killed 12 people in Los Angeles.

www.foxnews.com

 

[MS 9x56]

A good read on postwar economies is The Reckoning by David Halberstam. Making long story short, after WW2, the world's manufacturing was in ruins. We had it all to ourselves. In order to rebuild our enemies economies we paid for almost 100% of their defense needs and our best and brightest worked in those industries. Meanwhile, Japan, Germany and others who we defended after the war employed their best and brightest in consumer goods like autos, electronics and other manufactured goods. It's still the same today. (I worked with some engineers for a Big 3 that couldn't find their asses with both hands).

Having said that, these countries are back on their feet and still offloading their defense costs on the U.S. taxpayer and at the same time sticking it up OUR ass with TARIFFS on just about every manufactured goods TO PROTECT THEIR INDUSTRIES! Meanwhile, they have BETTER health care (among high income nations, we have the worst!) and that nice imported Mercedes, Volvo, BMW, Honda, Acura, ad nauseum we buy is subsidizing these countries defense, health care and other social "benefits".

Don't even start on NAFTA, the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the American worker. Read the Heritage's Foundation paper on it's "benefits" before it passed. They were reduced illegal immigration, a reduction in drug smuggling and a crimp on American workers' salaries and unions. They got one right and here we are with a big deficit and no tax base to support it.

I'm done.

A men brother.

 

[MS 9x56]

The world sleeps much better with 9 german main battle tanks than with 900..... Germany easily could have!

Greetings from Germany

HWL

A lot of truth in that.

 

[Vashper]

I once stood in line at the supermarket checkout with a full cart, there was a group of young people ahead with purchases, apparently for a corporate event. They laughingly ask one guy, "What would it be like for you?" He said gloomily, "We would have been stoned a long time ago."To an outside observer, this process of purposefully replacing the Western population with alien cultures is incomprehensible and inexplicable. But all this is hardly a source of religious controversy. Religion and denomination are, in my opinion, now often just a marker for distinguishing between "our own and others". Religion covers up intertribal struggle, which, in my opinion, is as senseless as the fights of fans of sports clubs. Or political. Shiite Iranians are condemned for terrorism, despite the fact that everyone knows that Islamic terrorists are almost exclusively Sunnis.As for cultural differences, we are surprised to receive information that in the West the image of men with a naked torso has a sexual connotation, and there are class differences – the upper English aristocracy even have to cover their elbows, not that the male nipples are I don't know if it's true, but I read from an English author. Joint baths are not accepted in Russia, but in Western Europe this is the norm. It's unlikely to have roots in religion.

 

[Jeff505]

Situational sexuality, and situational homosexuality are long studied and understood phenomena. It don't just occur amongst muslim populations. It occurs in prisons, religious institutions, colleges, isolated labour groups and all sorts of military units, historic and modern.

But so I understand your concern, are you suggesting that our politicians or press should be suggesting that consensual homosexuality is corrupt or immoral?

Homosexuality is both corrupt and immoral. Now you know.

 

[skydiver386]

It's all the same back and forth. They call us immoral, you say their homosexual acts are immoral. Just the same tribal name calling. It goes nowhere.

But, for this specific action to be called out as immoral, the politician etc would have to start with the premise that consensual homosexuality is immoral. That isn't going to happen.

Sex with a seven year old child is never consensual.

 

[spike.t]

China ramping it up.....

China tightens export rules for crucial rare earths

The announcement comes ahead of a meeting between China's President Xi Jinping and his US counterpart Donald Trump later this month.

www.bbc.com

 

[RLD]

Homosexuality is both corrupt and immoral. Now you know.

Well thanks for clearing that up. Let me inscribe that on a stone tablet and hang it in public schools.

 

[RLD]

Sex with a seven year old child is never consensual.

Who said it was?

 

[RLD]

Are you asleep? Or participating in the same things? My point is that lots of Muslim men view Western culture as sexually immoral and our women as whores for how they dress and have sexual relations while at the same time some Muslim men are banging each other and little boys and nobody cares?

You have a lot of race hate in your heart brother.

You should be careful, that kind of cancer can eat you put pretty quick if you let it.

 

[Flipper Dude]

You have a lot of race hate in your heart brother.

You should be careful, that kind of cancer can eat you put pretty quick if you let it.

Something he said there wasn’t true? Maybe not asleep, but definitely head in the sand.

 

[Aaron N]

Having sex with a child, regardless of culture, is immoral and wrong. Full stop.

Even on a billionaires island?

 

[wesheltonj]

Unfortunately, what is a child in one jurisdiction, may be a consenting adult in another.

 

[mdwest]

Frankly I don't think they know what they consider homosexual. Why have I seen videos of taliban in Afghanistan in cities with plenty of women acting way too friendly to young, not super masculine looking white foreigners? I've heard ex military tell of similar stories having to watch out for similar men. I look at that as seeking out a preference. When I hear the "Women are for procreation, men/boys are for fun", I view that as seeking out a preference as you have referred to. I think it's a matter of semantics or masculine vs effeminate gay guy. The effeminate guy gets targeted. Maybe it's a learned preference.

They do know. Talk to a few (I’ve talked to hundreds)… ask them.. they will tell you…

Read prior posts.. that explains why they behave the way they do..

Their culture is clearly different.. their belief system is clearly different… their values are clearly different…

Their actions very clearly meet your (and most westerners) definition of homosexuality or bi-sexuality..

They however don’t meet THEIR definition (which they absolutely know and understand)..

Key to all of the above as well as your prior posts.. what we’re talking about isn’t representative of all of the Muslim world, or even most of the SW Asia region.. it’s cultural, and limited (for the most part) to parts of Afghanistan, parts of bordering countries, and much more prolific among certain tribal groups than others…

That’s not to say sexual deviance (per a western standard) isn’t seen all over the Middle East and SW Asia.. it certainly is… but the practice of ceremonial / group party sex with young boys is particularly an Afghanistan thing…

See prior posts about “man love thursdays” and sex with domesticated animals, rape etc..

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

You have a lot of race hate in your heart brother.

You should be careful, that kind of cancer can eat you put pretty quick if you let it.

Islam is not a race.

 

[RLD]

Something he said there wasn’t true? Maybe not asleep, but definitely head in the sand.

His assertion that I may have had sex with either men children is not true.

But you already knew that.

 

[RLD]

Islam is not a race.

Neither are Jews, but the term racism is used more widely these days. In the modern parlance it covers "ethnic groups" which muslims are.

But you do help make my point that not all muslims are the same, and attributing certain sexual deviances to all of islam is false.