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[Tundra Tiger]

Been avoiding this thread and posting in it, but must confess to checking it out every so often. I really don't care when they knew about his cancer or not in reality. Covering it up, yah not such a good thing I'd agree.

But I'm far more interested in the cover up that is keeping the Epstein island visitors from being more exposed and those the should be brought to justice not being so. That is a much bigger cover up and more concerning to me than Joe's health now that he is out of office.

 

[bowjijohn]

Yuck, that's right up there with them hanging pheasants by the neck until the body falls off. Bet it's REAL flavorful....

It’s also absolute cobblers

Only fresh fish is used in fish and chip shops

Here in Cornwall it would be yesterday’s catch

 

[spike.t]

So when is The Donald actually going to come to the realisation that putin is continually taking the piss out of him, and do something aggressive about it and really put pressure on putin.... give the Ukrainians everything they need and turn every screw on Russia up to max level.... ..never it would seem....

Trump-Putin call exposes shifting ground on Ukraine peace talks

Statements from both world leaders reveal two very different realities about ending the war in Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

 

[Scott CWO]

It appears after the two hour phone call with Putin, that both Ukraine and Russia will begin peace talks and the Vatican has offered to host the peace talks.

Well, Putin fools Trump again. Wake up, Donald!

 

[Altitude sickness]

Trump and Europe needs to fully arm Ukraine and pummel Moscow. Take strategic land to trade with later. Collapse Putins oil market. Use frozen Russian assets to offset US oil producers harmed by oil going below $60

 

[Altitude sickness]

Been avoiding this thread and posting in it, but must confess to checking it out every so often. I really don't care when they knew about his cancer or not in reality. Covering it up, yah not such a good thing I'd agree.

But I'm far more interested in the cover up that is keeping the Epstein island visitors from being more exposed and those the should be brought to justice not being so. That is a much bigger cover up and more concerning to me than Joe's health now that he is out of office.

Bidens Cancer being kept a secret is an issue because it demonstrates how low of humans we are dealing with.

1. They have a shell of a man to manipulate and do as they please so wanted him to remain in office at all costs. He was their place holder for a third Obama term.

2. Then, after they knew the dementia was out of the bag they ditch him.

3. Now when the dementia cover up is going to direct a light on who was actually making the ruinous decisions. And running the country. They throw out a last ditch distraction. (Cancer)
Unfortunately no one is thrown off the trail. It’s an obvious attempt.

As for Epstein. Yes anyone participating in abusing minors on his island should all be hunted down and neutered.

Why does it really matter who was the real Shot Caller? Because someone needs to answer for some things.

Take a look at Tim Tebow and his website. The Biden handlers allowed 300,000 to 500,000 minors brought in by the cartels to be sent to unvetted “sponsors”. ( they were supposed to be DNA tested to ensure the person standing next to them was a relative as the coyote says) Those kids are now either working in the sex slave trade in the US, or being coerced to work to pay off Coyotes.

Who should we blame for those 300-500k children in our country being abused. We need to know who was really in charge.

And lock them up in a Venezuelan prison.

 

[spike.t]

I don't think this plane is worth the shit storm it's causing..... he really needs to think again, or it's going to bite him on the ass big time....but he won't....wants his new toy....

Trump’s acceptance of Qatar jet gift is ‘definition of corruption’, senator says

Chris Murphy says Trump strategically visited Gulf states ‘willing to pay him off’ as backlash rises against luxury offer

www.theguardian.com

 

[Altitude sickness]

Spike, you can rest easy and get a good nights sleep. Trump will never ride in that toy. Especially if Boeing is going to be awarded the retrofit by the AF

 

[VertigoBE]

Trump and Europe needs to fully arm Ukraine and pummel Moscow. Take strategic land to trade with later. Collapse Putins oil market. Use frozen Russian assets to offset US oil producers harmed by oil going below $60

I’d put any seized Russian funds rather to the reconstruction of Ukraine.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Vertigo, Unfortunately, it’s only 300 billion but it would be a good start. Perhaps Putin‘s billions could be added into the pot.

 

[fourfive8]

Who knows about retrofitting the Qatari jet?? Is everyone overlooking an important aspect here? Turning down such a gift may be viewed as a serious snub by a potential ally and important player in the Middle East. We have a large air base there and they may be key player in future ME negotiations….. whether we like them or not…. may, at this time in history, be secondary.

I’m really detesting Chucky Schooma more and more these days. He is all worked up about accepting the jet. What a lying fake POS he really is. They’ve got nothing on Trump so have to fabricate this crap. Someone should ask him if he thinks we should disassemble the Statue of Liberty and ship it back to France for fear of some unsavory favor we may owe them in the future? Then have him send a bill to Macron for bailing their ass out of two world wars so everything is “all square”.

 

[Altitude sickness]

You are absolutely correct. In their culture turning down a gift is not a small slight. The Trojan horse argument is laughable. if they wanted to kill him or allow somebody else to kill him it would’ve been done already.

Even if Qatar handed Trump a finished Air Force One product, it would be swept daily just as the current one is.

 

[Brent in Az]

I agree that the Epstein coverup is huge, especially since Patel and Bongino are under fire for saying Epstein did in fact kill himself.
The Biden cover up is much different. They lied to the American people and covered up his illness, while using an unfit man as a puppet.
There are huge national security risks in what the democrats did.

Been avoiding this thread and posting in it, but must confess to checking it out every so often. I really don't care when they knew about his cancer or not in reality. Covering it up, yah not such a good thing I'd agree.

But I'm far more interested in the cover up that is keeping the Epstein island visitors from being more exposed and those the should be brought to justice not being so. That is a much bigger cover up and more concerning to me than Joe's health now that he is out of office.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Epstein did off himself. Prison can be particularly harsh on those types of people… Also wouldn’t be surprised at the other theory.

 

[spike.t]

You are absolutely correct. In their culture turning down a gift is not a small slight. The Trojan horse argument is laughable. if they wanted to kill him or allow somebody else to kill him it would’ve been done already.

Even if Qatar handed Trump a finished Air Force One product, it would be swept daily just as the current one is.

People on here might get the cultural issue, but 90 % I should imagine of usa joe public won't or probably care...just the fact it's causing such an uproar with politicians from both sides talking against it, will probably be enough I would have thought to turn People....but

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Who knows about retrofitting the Qatari jet?? Is everyone overlooking an important aspect here? Turning down such a gift may be viewed as a serious snub by a potential ally and important player in the Middle East. We have a large air base there and they may be key player in future ME negotiations….. whether we like them or not…. may, at this time in history, be secondary.

I’m really detesting Chucky Schooma more and more these days. He is all worked up about accepting the jet. What a lying fake POS he really is. They’ve got nothing on Trump so have to fabricate this crap. Someone should ask him if he thinks we should disassemble the Statue of Liberty and ship it back to France for fear of some unsavory favor we may owe them in the future? Then have him send a bill to Macron for bailing their ass out of two world wars so everything is “all square”.

You are absolutely correct. In their culture turning down a gift is not a small slight. The Trojan horse argument is laughable. if they wanted to kill him or allow somebody else to kill him it would’ve been done already.

Even if Qatar handed Trump a finished Air Force One product, it would be swept daily just as the current one is.

When I was in college, all engineering majors had to take an ethics class. One of the things I remember is some good advice for everyone. "It's not enough to avoid a conflict of interest. You should also avoid any appearance of a conflict of issue."

After 9/11, a Maasai village in Kenya wanted to gift the US a small herd of cattle. I think the US government can figure out a way to diplomatic use the gift of a 747.

A Maasai Village Responds to 9/11 With Compassion | National September 11 Memorial & Museum

911memorial.org

 

[Hunt anything]

Caught the tail end of a story this morning, Ashley Babbitts family was awarded $5,000,000 for her murder on January 6th. True justice would be the Capital Police Officer going to prison for a very long time!
@fourfive8 , I’m with you on Schumer, anyone that says DOGE caused a Mexican 3 mast ship to hit a bridge is definitely off his rocker. How can anyone take him or many politicians seriously is baffling at times. I have no love lost with DOGE but no way they caused a ship to run into a bridge is actually “a bridge too far” for me.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Big Beautiful Bill

Apparently the SALT portion of the bill is first to be jettisoned. Medicaid waste, fraud and abuse cuts are staying in.

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

Bidens Cancer being kept a secret is an issue because it demonstrates how low of humans we are dealing with.

1. They have a shell of a man to manipulate and do as they please so wanted him to remain in office at all costs. He was their place holder for a third Obama term.

2. Then, after they knew the dementia was out of the bag they ditch him.

3. Now when the dementia cover up is going to direct a light on who was actually making the ruinous decisions. And running the country. They throw out a last ditch distraction. (Cancer)
Unfortunately no one is thrown off the trail. It’s an obvious attempt.

As for Epstein. Yes anyone participating in abusing minors on his island should all be hunted down and neutered.

Why does it really matter who was the real Shot Caller? Because someone needs to answer for some things.

Take a look at Tim Tebow and his website. The Biden handlers allowed 300,000 to 500,000 minors brought in by the cartels to be sent to unvetted “sponsors”. ( they were supposed to be DNA tested to ensure the person standing next to them was a relative as the coyote says) Those kids are now either working in the sex slave trade in the US, or being coerced to work to pay off Coyotes.

Who should we blame for those 300-500k children in our country being abused. We need to know who was really in charge.

And lock them up in a Venezuelan prison.

I won't argue with any of the points in your post. I agree with you in the whole thing of the Biden presidency wasn't really a Biden presidency. However, I'm just not that sure of what laws were broken in that aspect alone. Certainly Biden failed to execute those laws regarding immigration but even in his questionable state of both physical and mental health I think he was in agreement with them.

In the end however, there was a process for dealing with this failed presidency. It occurs every 4 years and is one of the basic systems of checks and balances we have, which is of course the vote. And in that case the system worked and we have a different president.

In the case of the Epstein island saga, we have our system of justice. One could argue that in part that system worked in that Epstein is dead and deservedly so, whether it be by his own hand or not. But whether Epstein killed himself or not, the system of justice in my opinion has not fully worked. It has been corrupted. Corrupted by the money and power that those who should have been held accountable have not nor do I see that they ever will. This is a much more concerning issue for me.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Big Beautiful Bill

Apparently the SALT portion of the bill is first to be jettisoned. Medicaid waste, fraud and abuse cuts are staying in.

State and local tax deductions​

Another point of contention in the bill is a tripling of a local tax deduction - known as Salt - from $10,000 to $30,000 for couples.

Some lawmakers from states with high taxes such as New York, California and New Jersey have objected, saying that the proposed cap is not high enough.

In a joint statement earlier in May, New York Republican Congress members Elise Stefanik, Andrew Garbarino, Nick LaLota and Mike Lawler said Speaker Johnson's offer was too low and " insulting".

Some so-called Salt Republicans want the cap raised to $62,000 for individuals and double for couples filing jointly.

House Republican leaders are reportedly seeking a compromise that would see the cap raised to $40,000 for individuals and $80,000 for joint filers.

The "Salt Caucus" formed in 2021 is a bipartisan effort that brings together both Democrats and Republicans who hope to repeal the current $10,000 cap.