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  1. CAustin

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    Among other things, one of the better reasons to use Redding carbide dies is not having to use case lube when sizing. On straight wall cases like your 470, too much lube on the brass can cause the brass to get severely dimpled when run up into the sizing die. I ruined quite a few 45-70 brass before I got the hang of how much lube to get on them.

    I personally weigh every. single. cartridge. that goes on my press. However, that's for hunting loads. I'm about to start running through a lot of .308, so I'll probably be buying a powder thrower for that. I only have about 1000 .308W cartridges in my vault, and I'd like to have about 10X that amount. I prefer digital to balance beam, but to each his own with that.

    For hunting cartridges, I don't generally run through more than about 100 at a time, so the setup I have is more than adequate for that. I don't hunt with my 308. Dillon makes great presses, but if you're not planning on running through thousands of rounds a year, it's a difficult expense for me to justify presently.

    I use RCBS, Hornady, and Lee dies. They all work fine. Pay attention to the crimp, especially for your "thumpers." Getting bullet setback could ruin your day.
     
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  4. tarbe

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    If you are going to load .470 NE, be very careful what you buy.

    Many presses will not handle the beast (due to length).

    When I started loading 470, I bought one of these as I could not do 470 on my RCBS:

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/845765/lee-classic-cast-50-bmg-single-stage-press-kit

    Very happy with the press. I now also use it exclusively for 450/400 Nitro as well.

    I also had to purchase a 50 BMG chamfer tool. My standard Lyman was really maxed-out trying to do the 470 cases. I actually ruined a few when the outside chamfer tool got catty-wampus.
     

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    Rock Chucker Supreme will handle .470NE. You have to work a little to seat bullet, just push up into did a little and then back down to brass.
     

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    Ditto on rockchucker sup. And 470
     

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    Yep Rockchuckers work as described then I upgraded to an RCBS AmmoMaster for the NE stuff. Can use 7/8", 1" or 1.25" or 1.5" (change the top plate) die sets as well. Got it when they were cheap (~$145 bucks) about 10 years ago.

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    The Lee press works well with the 450/400. Looks like the 470 would work too. IMG_20181202_141358.jpeg
     
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    Rocker iv is what is needed. My RC 1 is a little short.
     

  10. Shootist43

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    OneDay, I see that some of your questions have been answered, but I'd like to add a couple of my own responses.
    I load the vast majority of my reloads on Dillon presses. Currently I have 4 of them. But Charlie needed something to use on 470(s) hence the Rock Chucker Supreme. Early in my reloading "career" I bought a number of RCB die sets. I had trouble with their 35 Remington. When I called Dillon and asked about it they said that dies primarily designed for use on single stage presses did not always perform well on progressives. Their suggestion was for me to use either Dillon or Redding dies. I made the switch and never looked back. As far as the Forster case trimmer goes, it will handle the 470(s) while most others will not. Personally I use a Lyman but I don't own anything larger than a 404 Jeffery and a 416 Rigby. I really deliberated on the powder throwing device. Normally I use the charging system on Dillon's presses. But when I'm developing loads I use an AMT Electronic Powder Dispenser but it is no longer available. That I why I recommended the RCBS Charge Master. Every load gets weighed automatically. Another reason for going to an Electronic Powder Dispenser is that my Dillon(s) measure flake powders i.e. Winchester 760 and 748 (for use with rifles) extremely accurately but less so with stick powders. There is also the issue of the larger volumes of powder required. My recommendations to Charlie are those things that worked for me. Like someone mentioned earlier after a person starts reloading some of the equipment he started off with will get replaced by others more suited to his liking.
     
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    Tim, your Bald Eagle Priming Press is the most robust priming device I've seen. Up till now, I've been using the priming capability on one of my Dillon presses or a Lee hand primer. Except for having to load primers one at a time I see no short comings with it.
     

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    The really sweet thing about the Bald Eagle priming tool is that it has detents on the collar that secures the shell holder. Each detent gets you 0.002" of further seating of the primer.

    And yes, it would get tedious for the volume loader.

    I do everything on single-stage presses anyway (just ask my friends...they constantly harass me about it!), so the Bald Eagle is right up my alley!

    Edit: come to think of it, I have done some 300 round batches of 45 Auto with the Bald Eagle, and my twitch didn't get worse...so I guess it will do in a pinch!
     
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    I use CFE 223 in 308 Win it’s a mod burning powder slower than Varget. I too have 9.3x62 what load do use with CFE 223 in the 9.3x62 ?
     

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    It's 250gr TTSX @ 3.291"oal with 62.2gr's CFE223. I am getting around 2,500 fps average.
     

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    I have some CFE 223 that I use in a 308 Win.
    It’s a very high energy powder. I just acquired a 9.3x62 and trying to get some new load data.
    What brass and primer are you using?
     

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    Lapua brass and CCI200
     

  18. 375 Ruger Fan

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    Any updates?

    @Shootist43 has been nudging me to get back into reloading. With a 375 Ruger and now a 404 Jeffery to feed, reloading makes sense.

    I grew up reloading with my Dad and we had a RCBS Rock Chucker. I've looked at some videos and the RCBS Summit looks intriguing. Anybody using this press?

     

  19. Shootist43

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    Will this press load all of your current and possible future calibers? The video mentioned the largest caliber it would handle is a 338 Lapua.
     

  20. 375 Ruger Fan

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    The 338 Lapua is longer than anything I would be reloading, COAL = 3.681" Wouldn't be able to load a 470 NE, but that isn't an issue for me, but is something to consider. The RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme lists a ram stroke length of 4", which I guess suggests it can handle cartridges with a COAL of 4".
     

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