USA hunting options for non- Americans?

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I'm an Australian and I've always wanted to hunt Pronghorn....now, as I am not an American citizen, what is the procedure to hunt Pronghorn, or any other game animal, in the United States ? ( also with my own rifle if possible )
I have friends and relatives in the States...can they take me hunting or do I have to hire a guide or use a " hunting service " ?

Roger
 
Texas panhandle or west Texas pronghorn hunt would be great fun

Private land hunt In Texas on a big Ranch. Lots of options
in doing private land you won’t need to mess with the draw tags or draw permits and public land access

You just pay a for land owner tag via a outfitter who will take you hunting

Get your Texas non resident hunting license - a good outfitter will help you.

This is your best bet for success if you really want a pronghorn.

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I'm an Australian and I've always wanted to hunt Pronghorn....now, as I am not an American citizen, what is the procedure to hunt Pronghorn, or any other game animal, in the United States ? ( also with my own rifle if possible )
I have friends and relatives in the States...can they take me hunting or do I have to hire a guide or use a " hunting service " ?

Roger
I can't say for sure, but I would look at the hunting regulations on line for Wyoming. That is your best bet to draw a tag. I do not know of any regulation that would require the use of an outfitter, but again, check the regulations.

I really have no idea what's involved in bringing a rifle into the U.S. Maybe one of our Canadian members knows?
 
Texas panhandle or west Texas pronghorn hunt would be great fun

Private land hunt In Texas on a big Ranch. Lots of options
in doing private land you won’t need to mess with the draw tags or draw permits and public land access

You just pay a for land owner tag via a outfitter who will take you hunting

Get your Texas non resident hunting license - a good outfitter will help you.

This is your best bet for success if you really want a pronghorn.

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I wouldn't have thought of Texas. Isn't that the really expensive route?
 
I wouldn't have thought of Texas. Isn't that the really expensive route?
I think you are right

I just thought the process of applying for tags or trying to draw a tag / point systems would complicate things for a foreign hunter. Public land can be confusing especially for someone not from the area, let alone a different country.

Just paying for a land owner permit makes it simple and a nice outfitter to make sure it’s all legal.

Texas has big pronghorns and very high success rates. That was my thought process. You may be true on price!

I have not hunted outside of Texas in the States. So there could be better options.

Cheers
 
Each state will have slightly different rules for public, federal, and state land. I think the larger problem you’d run into is getting tags. Many tags, especially in western states are on a draw. You might have to plan several years in advance to draw a tag you could hunt with family or friends. Usually areas outfitters hold the tags are easier to draw or are guaranteed. The eastern states are much more limited to whitetail deer but tags are also over the counter.
 
New Mexico has plenty of opportunities too, public and private. An outfitter there can make the arrangements. In many areas, once you secure permission to hunt on private land, the tag can be acquired over-the-counter a day or two before the hunt starts. A negotiated fee to hunt on private land can vary considerably depending on accommodations, guiding vs DIY, trophy quality, etc.

Most Western US states are very picky about documentation regarding hunter safety. Some will simply not issue a license without written proof. It's possible now to take the class on-line in many places. Just don't make all the plans to come and neglect to plan for this.
 
If you’re thinking Texas, you may consider adding hogs to the list… you don’t even need a hunting license for pigs here.. they’re considered a nuisance animal.. and there are places all over the state you can hunt them super cheap… hell, you can hunt them for free at my place.. they’re overrunning one of my blinds and feeders at the moment and running off my deer… I need them shot out of the area..

Any other animal in TX is likely going to be very expensive comparatively to other states.. there’s very limited public land available, and most of what is available gets insanely over crowded during hunting season.. so you need a guide.. and guided hunts in TX are big business…

@roverandbrew has a buddy in Colorado that does elk, pronghorn, deer, mountain lion, geese, and a few other species guiding and is highly successful at very reasonable rates.. were I looking for a pronghorn and to maybe tack on one or two more animals while in the US, that’s who I’d call… CO is stunningly beautiful and most of the different species they have there are both quality and reasonably plentiful.. their politics suck, and I’ve gotten to where I hate Denver.. but if you’re just passing through it’s one of the best states to visit for hunting still IMO…
 
Roger,
From the perspective of a Kiwi who has hunted several times in the USA with my own rifle, it is certainly doable as long as you don't mind the complex procedure for a permit.
Applications should be made weeks in advance of travel dates although once an application is sent approval is sent often within a few days. You need to apply to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms ( Look up Form 6N1A, Application / Permit for Temporary Importation Firearms and Ammunition by Nonimmigrant Aliens ) on their website and print TWO copies ( I think they still ask that two copies are submitted ). However, before submitting you need to have in hand a USA Hunting License. This could be from the state and / or for the animal(s) you intend to hunt ( an outfitter can obtain for you if booked with an outfitter ) or if no outfitter will be engaged and you need one just for meeting BATF's requirements buy from Texas Parks & Wildlife a 5 day Special Small Game / Exotic License ( about $45 - $55 USD ? ) for which you can select dates. TPWD will post the License to you but allow a few weeks. I think now you need to set up an online account with TPWD which is straightforward. I'm not sure about this point but depending on your age you may also need to have completed a Hunter Safety Course in order to apply with TPWD. I'm sure the info is on their website. If you need to do the course it can also be done with online suppliers ( found on Google ). I did mine with a Texas providor which took an afternoon and wasn't expensive.
Then, with all that done you fill in the form and send to BATF and await their kind consideration.
Yes, it's that simple :rolleyes: and make sure you take a couple of printed copies with you to deal with USA Customs on arrival. Usually with your passport they quickly pull up your permit in their system but a couple of time they couldn't and actually checked my printed permit.
I know often they receive a bad rap but I have always found US Customs absolutely professional, pleasurable and helpful to deal with, both coming to and going from the USA. I think honesty courtesy are key.

Happy to help with any further questions should this be your chosen route. And I wouldn't blame you for thinking a borrowed rifle makes much more sense.
 
New Mexico has plenty of opportunities too, public and private. An outfitter there can make the arrangements. In many areas, once you secure permission to hunt on private land, the tag can be acquired over-the-counter a day or two before the hunt starts. A negotiated fee to hunt on private land can vary considerably depending on accommodations, guiding vs DIY, trophy quality, etc.

Most Western US states are very picky about documentation regarding hunter safety. Some will simply not issue a license without written proof. It's possible now to take the class on-line in many places. Just don't make all the plans to come and neglect to plan for this.
The NRA offers a free online hunter safety class for many states including Texas and New Mexico.

https://nra.yourlearningportal.com/Course/HuntersEdActivityInfoPage
 
..., as I am not an American citizen, what is the procedure to hunt...

A similar question was discussed about a year ago so you might want to peruse that short thread to see if there's any additional useful information:

 
In hunted hogs in Florida years ago. Outfitter handled everything. Could also hunt some small game iirc and alligators.

Would love to come back in the future to the states for species like pronghorn, mountain lion, whitetail etc.
 
Montana has immense public land or ranches that are publicly accessible. Sign up with On-X and you can see on your phone what's what re the land game is spotted on. I'm a bit out of touch with most nonresident regs. I can obtain a special nonresident license every year because I'm formerly a resident and my brother is still a resident. But he must be with me when I hunt big game. Only shot one antelope when I was a young man. One was enough. I don't care to eat them and long range shooting didn't appeal to me. Back then I shot an elk and a couple of deer every year and that was more than enough meat. Nowadays I'm an empty nester. A mule deer buck and birds is plenty. I see lots of pronghorn every year.

If you can draw a pronghorn tag, you will have a great experience. A deer tag will be prerequisite for applying and it's pretty hard to leave without something in the cooler. My experience anyway. It never takes more than two days hunting for me to get a buck. The people are great and most are willing to help you get what you want.
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One of last year's bucks. 6x6. I also bagged a big dry doe whitetail with my SUV. Saved all of her but the GMC Jimmy was not so lucky.
 
Many states offer landowner tags which don’t require an application process for specific species. You could spend some time on the internet looking at landowner tags and see what you can do.
Loaner rifles often available
 
Go to the Huntinfool.com website; this site offers landowner tags. Pick the state you want to hunt, look at the game animals and prices. Next, go to that state's fish and game website and see what non-us citizen hunter requirements are. You'll do some research for sure.
 
I think you are right

I just thought the process of applying for tags or trying to draw a tag / point systems would complicate things for a foreign hunter. Public land can be confusing especially for someone not from the area, let alone a different country.

Just paying for a land owner permit makes it simple and a nice outfitter to make sure it’s all legal.

Texas has big pronghorns and very high success rates. That was my thought process. You may be true on price!

I have not hunted outside of Texas in the States. So there could be better options.

Cheers
I’ve chased pronghorn in a number of states and seen a fair number of Texas speed-goats. Texas wouldn’t be in my top states to chase them if looking for a trophy. Texas produces a lot of 12-14” bucks. From a dollar value standpoint they also tend to be a little more expensive than other states for the trophy qualitybecause you can really only book a hunt through an outfitter on private land because the number of public land draw tags is ridiculously low.

To the OP
Colorado has RFW/Landowner Vouchers and a fairly easy draw system for Pronghorn. Their southern areas of the state have high densities, fairly easy draw odds, some over the counter opportunities (archery), and good opportunity at a 14-16” goat. Guided hunts are relatively inexpensive in Colorado as well.

Wyoming is the pronghorn capital. Drop odds are pretty easy and there are units that typically have left over tags you can buy over the counter. Be careful, these units often have a lot of private land but with a little leg work you can often get permission to access public through private or secure trespass rights on private land. 13-15” is doable in almost every unit and if you play the long game to draw a Red Desert Tag 17”+ can be achieved. Outfitted/Guided hunts in Wyoming can be had in the $1500-4k range

Montana offers some fairly easy to draw tags typically a couple years for a unit with 13-15” quality.

New Mexico is a completely random draw with really long tough odds for non residents of New Mexico or landowner vouchers but does offer the easiest access for 15”+

Utah you’re going to wait a while to draw a tag, or going to pay a lot for a CWMU tag as a non resident. Trophy quality is there to justify it though.

Idaho is a random draw but requires an expensive non resident license that’s non refundable to apply. Oregon and Washington are similar.

I’m useless on information about bringing your firearms into the states on a pronghorn hunt through.
 
There are two camps to this both end up in the same place.

1. You build yourself a multi-year plan on hunting the USA, and build points and eventually draw.

2. You pay for private land owner tags and probably guided hunts. Through an outfitter you find, or contact one of our many booking agents like WTA adventures.

For the first one:

You must invest in research, and have time to commit to research, or pay someone like hunting fool or WTA Adventures to manage the profile and do research with you.

If you are going to do the research yourself, www.gohunt.com is about $150 USD a year, it will give you more of a crash course on the non-resident USA hunting game with the most speed.

There are others like Hunting Fool and a few more, I am not familiar with on the research end.

You will also need a mapping technology website that will show your landowner status. Onxmaps is what I use.

First thing is first, and I don't mean this to be an asshole. Forget about wild sheep, mountain goats, moose, and things like that. The draw odds are often .05 percentage points for non-resident hunts with no points, or low points. In Alaska you must be guided for these tags, and most of them are OTC. You can include a couple of these applications in our strategy, but don't buy $100 points or $250 points as you are so far behind in point creep as this isn't really an option. I am the same, it's just what it is. If you have the cash, then a few sheep, moose and goat applications could be included. Generally there somewhere between 1 and 30 nonresident tags across entire states for those species.

Elk, mule deer, blacktail deer, Coues whitetails and Western whitetails, pronghorns, and black bear and aoudad. That is where the bread and butter is.

You can hunt wild turkeys and Blackbears in most western states on public land (but not all) over the counter. You can hunt aoudad in New Mexico OTC, there are draw areas as well. But they are available over the counter.

There are archery tags OTC for deer, elk and antelope in a lot of western states.

Rifle tags are 99.9% draw for non-residents for most things.

Build a 10 year plan.

Start applying for points in Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and Arizona every year. Apply in New Mexico and Idaho every year you can hunt. Idaho and New Mexico do not have points programs, so you don't need to apply there if you aren't planning on coming to the USA that year.

Then you have the alternate states I would not apply in unless I had a big budget. These are the Dakotas, Nevada, Utah, Oregon and Washington. If you are able/willing to finance guided hunts in Alaska, then you would work with that outfitter to get those hunts.

Years 1-3
Plan tags that don't commit tag-fratricide based on season dates, that you can foreseeablly draw within 1-3 years. there will be some public land deer, elk and antelope hunts in areas that you will have to work hard to figure out the property boundaries.

Years 3-5
These are tags that will take 2-4 points to draw, and will be better hunts.

Years 5-20
These will be tags that will take a lot of points to draw.

Go for the gold.
Based on budget, if you can I'd include one or two applications for better antelope, deer, elk, sheep, goat, whatever you like tag every year that the hunting season works out for your travel on.

Build unit experience by hunting turkeys, blackbear, coyotes, in those units as much as you can. Then when you finally draw you have an idea.

Randy Newberg, GoHunt, Hunting Fool and quite a few other companies have videos on you tube explaining how the draws work.

For instance:
Wyoming has preference points, only the top point holders can draw point holder tags in that application cycle. They also have a non-preference point draw. These two draws are separated into a high and lower cost price pools. Special and General. With 40% of the tags going to the special higher price tags. So Wyoming has 4 draws going on at the same time. You must apply for one of the two draw types. There is very little chance of drawing a 2nd choice in Wyoming. So you can add a 2nd choice if you want, but the odds of getting a tag as a 2nd choice is slim to zero.

Because non-residents generally can't draw there 2nd choice you have 2 choices to make Special or Regular. You do not actually apply for the preference point or non-preference point pool. You have to have enough points to qualify. If you do not draw a tag in the preference point pool, you will go into the non-preference points pool.

Deer. Special $1215
Deer Regular $389

Elk Special $1965
Elk Regular $707

Antelope Special $1215
Antelope Regular $341

Wyoming also has the wilderness area issue. You can't hunt Wyoming wilderness areas without a registered Wyoming guide.

Arizona, New Mexico and other states use all or most of your hunt choices before moving onto the next applicant. I have drawn my 3rd or 4th choice elk in New Mexico, and it was a Gila bull tag.
 
Ask @gizmo he may know something
 
There should be a ready reference index added to this website. If ever there was an explanation that could be used as a stand alone reference for this topic, Muskox hit the nail on the head! GOOD ON YA!
 

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