South Africa's ANC to change constitution to allow seizing land

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  1. GL1960

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    Planning a trip with our son to Madeka Game Ranch in KwaZulu Natal province in 2020. Not sure how much more cash I want to continue to deposit on trip ( I won it at a charity auction) given the uncertainty. Does trip insurance cover these types of issues? Just curious.
     

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    Generally, government action is excluded.
     

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    Sir, dont cancel your trip. It's business as usual. Seems the US gets a different news feed to us here in SA.
    Was asked about an ISIS attack in SA recently. This is what is being reported in the US media. Isis? Really?
     
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    I watch the news day and night and have seen nothing about ISIS in RSA. Whoever asked you about it had misinformation. I checked different news outlets and the only item was about an American couple who started a trip in SA riding bikes and were killed by ISIS in Afghanistan.

    http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/201...ple-that-thought-evil-is-make-believe-concept
     

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    Never saw or heard anything about this crime. Probably pushed off the U.S. news which, since Trump was elected, has just been a rerun of the movie Groundhog Day, only with different players.
     

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    The only media outlets in the US I could find that covered it were the very far left ones (huffpo, etc).. and even then it just got paid lip service.. I dont think it was ever "big"news here at all..

    From what I can tell with the follow on stories, it was likely never news to begin with (or at least not the sort of news some wanted it to be).. It looks ISIS likely had nothing to do with the incident at all.. it was all just speculation
     

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    The idea that we should cancel our trips to South Africa over this reminds me of something that happened in our farm industry. There was an international food conference that changes venues each year and the coming year it was going to be in Antalya, Turkey (2 1/2 years ago). A lot of people from America were concerned because of the issues in Syria and being so close to the Syrian border and were fearful of ISIS. Then, one Turk was mentioning that the following year the event was going to be in San Diego and he said he didn't thing anybody from Turkey would go because San Diego is very close to the border in Mexico and they have cartels there. He then smiled and we all laughed. We had no problems in Turkey nor in San Diego.

    But we all love to embellish stories about how dangerous our hunts are and this will give a perfect opportunity to add some color to the stories you tell when you get back and are at the water cooler, right? Like a story about a thug showing his 9mm and we say "That ain't a gun" pulling out our .375 H&H and say, "THIS is a gun!"
     
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    Perhaps it was a misspelling.
    I've heard of an good pour over ice.

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    Via today on whatsapp, my ph/farm owner chalked this up to electioneering promises for next year. After which, he is optimistic that cooler heads with common sense will prevail.
     
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    I think what Marius' client heard was about an IHOP "Stack Attack" in SC (South Carolina) not SA. First, there are no International House of Pancakes in SA and second that offer was for a limited time only at varying participating franchises. Easy mix up for the media these days.
     
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    i though it was iHOB
     

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    That was actually a publicity stunt in order to promote their new burger menu. Rest at ease, They still offer pancakes, with fried chicken(and waffles), if you want.
     

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    I just can't understand how someone could think that way. "Properly utilized" is not something you want the government deciding.
     
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    i know and it was a flop. im not sure what they were thinking
     

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    Doing a lot of reading and research and I would not hesitate going to South Africa to hunt this year or next. Like the U.S. news media it's mostly all noise preceding an election year. Staying away would be like not going to Kansas because they have tornadoes or Florida because they experience hurricanes. For the newbies, I firmly believe you will find your outfitter will take the same care of your well being as he does for his own family members. Go with a reputable venue/outfitter/ph and the odds of something untoward happening are slim and none.
     
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    I wouldn't hesitate to go this year or next. Until your PH says don't come you should be good. Those guys have their families around camp and wouldn't put them in danger. These are also the same guys that you are paying to cover your ass in dangerous game situations so I trust their judgement.
     

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    I would go too but I think that the purpose of this thread is that unless this suicide policy ends, RSA will go the way of Zimbabwe and RSA as we know it will cease to exist.

    Since essentially all hunting in RDA is done on privately owned farms, hunting there will cease to exist.

    Because this effect ms White people, I doubt that the world will give a shit
     

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    No, we certainly don't want governments deciding on 'proper' land usage. The mere statement that the ANC is going to target only absentee landowners sounds like an exercise in ostrich mentality--you know, if you stick your head down a hole, it isn't really going to happen to you.

    On the other hand, it is conceivable that the worst won't come to pass, at least not now. There will, no doubt, be abundant international pressure to prevent S.A. from cutting it's own throat. If the economy of S.A. is destroyed, economies far removed from S.A. will suffer--the international business community will suffer. Will such pressure be enough in and of itself? I doubt it. But I think it safe to assume that many of the ANC bosses are even more acquisitive than they are doctrinaire. If they believe they will personally profit--in lands, votes, money, wealth--by cutting up SA for biltong, it will probably happen. If they believe that they will profit even more--or believe that they might personally suffer--if they fail to leave SA more-or-less intact--well, then SA continues, at least for a while. But this whole thing isn't happening in a vacuum. No doubt their comrades in China or North Korea are telling the the ANC that they will 'help' them should there be some pain. They'll be happy to send advisors to provide a little helpful direction, just like they've done in so many brilliantly successful African countries.

    Also remember that the Leninists don't think quite like the rest of us. When they took over Russia they broke up private farms, subdivided them and turned them into communal farms. Agricultural production dropped into the dark ages. Twenty million people died, mostly from starvation. It took over 20 years for agricultural to get back to pre-1917 levels--at least according to their self-serving and frightened bureaucrats. Mao did something much like it before and during his 'Great Cultural Revolution' with even more disastrous results. But, of course, Mao didn't lose any weight over it.

    Oh, I'm remembering an advertisement for Tanzanian tourism that I saw only once. Amongst others things it said, "It is true that we in Tanzania are poor but we are EQUALLY poor."
     
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