Rhodesia

[RLD]

Uh well Wheels is from Tanzania so perhaps he has some firsthand knowledge instead of your book knowledge. You ever been to Tanzania or Zimbabwe?

Yes to both. Interestingly my wife grew up in Kenya and my father-in-law was responsible for the installation of telephones in Tanzania, Kenya and Uganda when Bell Canada put them in over a period of years. One of my closest friends was hired by the government of Uganda to co-ordinate their negotiations with the LRA over a number of years, a project I assisted him with. Another good friend was the Minister of Mining in Zambia. I am happy to go on at length about my connections with Africa and why I feel I have a good grasp at it, but I am not big on bragging. One's arguments should stand on their own.

One of my rules is not to talk about things I don't understand well. My knowledge of African history and development is actually pretty good.

But that still doesn't mean Zebras have been domesticated does it?

 

[Scott CWO]

Yes to both. Interestingly my wife grew up in Kenya and my father-in-law was responsible for the installation of telephones in Tanzania, Kenya and Uganda when Bell Canada put them in over a period of years. One of my closest friends was hired by the government of Uganda to co-ordinate their negotiations with the LRA over a number of years, a project I assisted him with. Another good friend was the Minister of Mining in Zambia. I am happy to go on at length about my connections with Africa and why I feel I have a good grasp at it, but I am not big on bragging. One's arguments should stand on their own.

One of my rules is not to talk about things I don't understand well. My knowledge of African history and development is actually pretty good.

But that still doesn't mean Zebras have been domesticated does it?

Impressive although I don’t think your work with the LRA bore enough fruit. I have firsthand experience with the LRA.

 

[RLD]

Impressive although I don’t think your work with the LRA bore enough fruit. I have firsthand experience with the LRA.

The work with the LRA was tragically not successful. Although one wonders if they ever negotiated in good faith.

Would love to hear your LRA stories sometime. They were a blight on history but nonetheless it is important to understand them.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

B.S. is B.S. no matter how much affection you feel for the source.

If @Wheels was a little older we might think he took those photos on his own.

 

[Scott CWO]

The work with the LRA was tragically not successful. Although one wonders if they ever negotiated in good faith.

Would love to hear your LRA stories sometime. They were a blight on history but nonetheless it is important to understand them.

DM sent

 

[Scott CWO]

The work with the LRA was tragically not successful. Although one wonders if they ever negotiated in good faith.

Would love to hear your LRA stories sometime. They were a blight on history but nonetheless it is important to understand them.

That is an understatement.

 

[RLD]

DM sent

Thank you. Appreciate that.

 

[Rare Breed]

When A Crocodile Eats The Sun, IMO

Just finished When A Crocodile Eats The Sun…excellent book told by a family not a soldier. The last chapter is about 2007 which is only 19 years ago. If you were ever thinking of buying a home in Zim forget it after reading this book. This book combined with two Safaris with Lou Hallamore who fought in and lived it gives a very real picture of what took place

 

[Tanks]

There is a lesson here for those who would allow their own countries demographics to swing in favor of illegal immigration, anchor babies, welfare supported higher birth rates, etc. You can lose your country and your culture--to an invasion which has really nothing much to either culturally or economically validate it.

In this case though the white settlers were the illegal immigrants with anchor babies. I am sympathetic to Rhodesians however what happened to Rhodesia is a result of anti-colonial movement around the world. Not a result of illegal immigration. Could it have been done better? Of course.

 

[Bullhunter]

Zebra, "Spezialkräfte"-Soldat, vor mehr als 100 Jahren.

 

[steve white]

In this case though the white settlers were the illegal immigrants with anchor babies. I am sympathetic to Rhodesians however what happened to Rhodesia is a result of anti-colonial movement around the world. Not a result of illegal immigration. Could it have been done better? Of course.

I was inferring that status on Africans from without Zimbabwe who immigrated in en masse to take advantage of greater opportunity than where they came from, and then joined an anti-colonial movement. The people who had benefited from the improved conditions are now suffering much worse conditions since fomenting revolution. I find no justification for the wholesale theft of all the capital and infrastructure which was stolen by those without the means to build it or maintain it.

Same thing with all that was stolen of foreign investment and oil infrastructure in Venezuela. There will have to be some serious concessions made before anyone wants to risk the capital to bring production back online, IMO.

 

['68boy]

NO!

 

[rwp315]

To paint the conflict as “black versus white” is precisely what the communists wanted. The truth is more nuanced than that. Yes the Rhodesian government was led by the white minority. This is because they established this government in a region that was already populated but otherwise pre-literate and lacking anything else the modern world would consider civilized infrastructure. It would have been immensely impractical to establish a flourishing modern civilization and immediately relinquish control of it to people who had no experience in anything of the sort. The Rhodesian government made a lot of investments in education, healthcare, and infrastructure, much of it to the direct benefit of the black majority population. To my understanding, as much as 30% of the black majority were actually migrants from neighboring African countries, drawn to Rhodesia by the peace, prosperity, and opportunity. The Rhodesian army had many black soldiers during the war, fighting alongside the whites to keep what they too considered to be an acceptable political, social, and economic system. I believe that Rhodesian society would have become more integrated and inclusive as time wore on, had they only had the support of the free world on their side. But the free world ignored the call while the communists carved out yet another foothold for themselves. The promises of racial equality are among the most insidious and seductive of the communist lies; communism doesn’t give a shit about people, only power.

Two books by Robert Raurk, Something of Value and Uhuru. Both lengthy but informative.