Politics

[Corey0372]

Not to mention being an expert in both foreign policy and history (you pick the region).

Has he covered Atlantis yet???

 

[Big_Easy]

So, in which Socialist country have you lived? I'll make it even easier, which Socialist country have you visited? Ask the Cuban, and the government will tell you that they have a Socialist Government. Socialism/Communism doesn't work. Open your eyes. A dictionary description is one thing, what happens in real life is another.

Cuba's government can call themselves the happy-go-lucky-teddy-bear-love-association, just because they say so, doesn't make it true. You can call yourself the Queen of England, but it doesn't make it real.

As far as I'm aware, there are no purely Socialist states right now. So it would be difficult to live in one. Most countries are a mix of Capitalism/Socialism.

 

[Big_Easy]

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Still Communist countries.

 

[Brent in Az]

I thought about it, but it is against HOA rules to discharge them.

A pack of Coyotes cleaning out the neighborhood yappers sounds like free noise control to me.....LOL.

Drop baits laced with strychnine

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Maybe if someone marketed a pellet double rifle you would get @Tanks attention.

Ask and you shall receive

 

[Big_Easy]

You mean the settlements in the West Bank that Jordan lost to Israel, when Jordan attack Israel and lost that land to Israel? Just because the International Court of Justice say they are illegal does not make them "criminal" as you say. By the way the USA, China, Russia, India, Israel and others are not bound to the ICJ. As you say "nice try."

I don't know what ICJ nonsense you are referring to. But I was referring to two items:

1) The Israeli's own supreme court rulings on many of their own settlements as illegal. You clowns were the ones jawing on about how the Israeli's support the rule of law, and the Palestinians don't, but also somehow ignore their own supreme court? Sounds illegal to me.

2) The UN's Partition plan back in 1947. Again, you were the ones claiming that the Israeli's agreed to the plan and a two-state solution, and that the Palestinian's did not. The Israeli's agreeing to the partition, and then violating it by building homes on land that they agreed was someone else's seems illegal to me. Plus there's the whole throwing people out of their existing homes that were already built too.

 

[Big_Easy]

Not to mention being an expert in both foreign policy and history (you pick the region).

More childish insults from the intellectually lazy crowd that cannot form a coherent argument and actually debate someone on the issues. I do however understand how a dictionary works, you should all try it sometime.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

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Ask and you shall receive

 

[WAB]

I thought about it, but it is against HOA rules to discharge them.

They are very quiet.

 

[Pheroze]

Israel hasn't supported a two-state solution in decades. Not since their own PM was assassinated by a far-right Israeli...not a Palestinian...Who belonged to the same terrorist organization that their current National Defense Minister (and criminal/Cho-mo) supports. Right after he threatened the PM on TV.

But that's not the biggest issue here. It's Israeli settlements. The fact that any of you supports such criminal behavior is a bit shocking (even on this forum). That's not something you'd ever tolerate in the US, but it's okay for the Israeli's to do it? You're all the epitome of hypocrisy. If someone tried to steal your homes/land you'd shoot at them to. But the Palestinians do it and they are branded terrorists.

Red herring - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Big_Easy]

Red herring - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm happy to see that you've discovered Wikipedia. Now please explain how mentioning illegal Israeli settlements, and how many of you seemingly support them, is a Red Herring regarding the current situation between those two peoples?

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

 

[fourfive8]

Hey BigEasy, do some in-depth, independent research on this example of the normal MO for HAMAS and your Palestinian brethren. Not CNN nor any factless MSN sources or American left commies like Omar, Sanders, US Senator Van Hollen (one of the biggest sleaze commies of all), etc. … all of whom you seem to worship. Do some serious research of Dr Safiya, aka “Dr Hamas”. Report back

 

[Brent in Az]

9th night of attacks on Iran.
Iranian leaders claim that Trump was the one who broke the ceasefire agreement.
As usual, they are lying P.O.S

Hammer the shit out of them.

 

[Aaron N]

Has a socialist/communist country ever existed with good intentions? I think we all can agree that authoritarian governments are a bad idea whatever beliefs they hold, so it would be an interesting case study if one could function without the addition of human greed, and also without being sanctioned out the ass by the developed world.

On a small scale, Hutterites are a pretty successful example of small scale socialism (as much as I despise them, I have to admit they are efficient and effective).

 

[Tanks]

Has a socialist/communist country ever existed with good intentions? I think we all can agree that authoritarian governments are a bad idea whatever beliefs they hold, so it would be an interesting case study if one could function without the addition of human greed, and also without being sanctioned out the ass by the developed world.

On a small scale, Hutterites are a pretty successful example of small scale socialism (as much as I despise them, I have to admit they are efficient and effective).

Well, ancient Greeks, specifically Spart, gave equal plots of land to all to start. Within a few generations they all ended up in the hands of the few leading to massive inequality.

Clearly seeing equal distribution did not work even in ancient Greece the solution is for the government to own all and allocate use of the resources instead.

 

[LivingTheDream]

No they don't. You're conflating giving food and medical aid to people, with giving suitcases full of cash from a Qatari diplomat directly to Hamas. Sacks of rice, beans, and grains are different than cold hard cash. I have included some reference's below.

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from

www.timesofisrael.com

Israel drove suitcases stuffed with cash into Gaza to keep Hamas in power: NYT

Israeli security officials would escort Qatari representatives into Gaza to deliver the cash to Hamas, the New York Times reported.

www.businessinsider.com

No, not really. But in order to reach some folks on this forum you have to speak their language. And for those on the far-right these past 10+ years, that language is one of bat-shit crazy conspiracy theories. Sometimes you have to meet people where they are.


Yes. I also believe that two wrongs don't make a right. And that the Israeli's should also be held responsible for their criminal actions as well. I also know that if someone tried to take your home, and your land. Throwing your family out on the street that you'd fight like hell to stop that as well. What do you think Israeli settlements are? Even their own supreme court has sided against the Jewish settlers on many occasions. They just ignore the courts. Wasn't one of the other posters on here just talking about Israel and the rule of law? So much for that.


I'm obviously against that. One wrong should not beget another.


Didn't Trump meet with the Leader of North Korea? I seem to remember that his supporters were very happy about that. How many people has he killed? What about Putin? Trump seems to love that guy? How many of his own people has he killed?


Sure, if the meaning is to take Jewish land and drive them out, then yes. I can condemn that. Can you condemn Israeli's sealing peoples homes and land for themselves?

1) Money is fungible, so if getting grains, rice, medical supplies, means they (Hamas) dont have to spend money on their people, meaning they can spend money on guns, rockets, and tunnels, stuff like that.

2) Fair enough, but presenting a new conspiracy theory to counter other conspiracy theories is a bit tough to follow.

3) I believe IDF soldiers have gone to jail when committing criminal acts, Hamas gives a heros welcome. Why would Isreal follow US Supreme Court rulings? The US wouldnt follow anyone else court rulings. The fact Palestine can exist as a state after numerous attacks and wars against Israel is quite frankly amazing, not saying the Palestinians people dont have a right to exist because they do but they (whatever elected Palestinian government) have proven time and time again that they dont want peace and want to eliminate Israel. This is a situation of 2 wrongs at anywhere near the scale, I dont know the legal aspects of the settlements but where in history of the world has someone had a neighboring state attack them and then the attacker got to keep their land? And honestly given after what happen on Oct 7th, I honestly dont care too much about how they feel about "stolen" land.

I do find it a bit ironic that in one of your first posts you said you were concerned about the rights of your gay neighbors but then simp for Palenstine.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Has a socialist/communist country ever existed with good intentions? I think we all can agree that authoritarian governments are a bad idea whatever beliefs they hold, so it would be an interesting case study if one could function without the addition of human greed, and also without being sanctioned out the ass by the developed world.

On a small scale, Hutterites are a pretty successful example of small scale socialism (as much as I despise them, I have to admit they are efficient and effective).

Humans are far to tribal for socialism to ever work, Dunbars number dictates that humans can maintain meaningful relationships with up to about a hundred and fifty people. The number we actually deeply care about is much smaller than that again.

The inner circle is roughly 5 people these are the people you care the most about.

The sympathy group about 10 more people who’s lose would deeply hurt you.

The wider circle about 35 people consisting of friends and extended family you see occasionally.

The outer circle about a hundred people you consider acquaintances would be comfortable doing business with or can great by name.

Any normal person is going to favour those above mentioned people above everyone else even without consciously trying and if it had to be at the expense of someone outside of your circles you’d find a way to justify it.

 

[Rafiki]

.....most people I meet that have had a dna test (or haven’t) will claim being Indian and disregard their whiteness even if they have only 1percent, ....

True, just ask Elizabeth Warren.

 

[Aaron N]

Well, ancient Greeks, specifically Spart, gave equal plots of land to all to start. Within a few generations they all ended up in the hands of the few leading to massive inequality.

Clearly seeing equal distribution did not work even in ancient Greece the solution is for the government to own all and allocate use of the resources instead.

Didn’t the land in basically every society excluding the last four or five centuries reside in the hands of a few leading to massive inequality?

I’m not saying socialism is the answer, I’m just saying that it would be interesting to see what the outcome would be should it not turn authoritative and the international world treated it as an equal. What can I say, I like experiments and if it crashed and burned, well there you go.