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[spike.t]

OK so seems I am not a hated boomer..... ...we got our own specialist niche....but I still wont understand what the hell it is about....same as all the other weird classifications of people

 

[Killingtime]

OK so seems I am not a hated boomer..... ...we got our own specialist niche....but I still wont understand what the hell it is about

Lol I read something about you Gen Jones the other day and how you got screwed by them lol it was an interesting read.

 

[spike.t]

Lol I read something about you Gen Jones the other day and how you got screwed by them lol it was an interesting read.

Never heard it before..just popped up on YouTube...mind you I have to keep googling the different types when brought up as can never remember the age and year pattern for each classification.....not that it interests me at all....load of bullshit as far as I can see...

 

[Hank2211]

Did anyone watch the King’s speech to the Joint session or State Dinner (or both). They are actually worth the watch. I think HRH does a good job of reminding us of the shared framework we all enjoy.

Not sure if anyone else pointed this out, but as a Canuck Pheroze should know - Charles is HM not HRH!

Couldn’t help myself . . .

 

[Brent in Az]

Johnson wanted to pass it a month ago. The freedom caucus didn’t. The freedom caucus changed their position not Johnson.

Yes it doesn’t cover everything which was my point earlier. They could have passed this and funded secret service and TSA. You were praising them for not but now not criticizing them for changing.

I don’t ask that you or anyone agree with me, just be consistent.

Consistent with what?....lol

I stand behind what I said. I don't always see eye to eye with the freedom caucus, but on this I do. The freedom caucus wanted full funding, and it got passed with a voice vote. It wouldn't have otherwise
This bill still doesn't provide funding for ICE & CBP. Which the Democrats are maliciously holding hostage, as they would like nothing more then to abolish ICE and border patrol, and create a cesspool of illegal aliens run amuck in this country.

 

[Red Leg]

Consistent with what?....lol

I stand behind what I said. I don't always see eye to eye with the freedom caucus, but on this I do. The freedom caucus wanted full funding, and it got passed with a voice vote. It wouldn't have otherwise
This bill still doesn't provide funding for ICE & CBP. Which the Democrats are maliciously holding hostage, as they would like nothing more then to abolish ICE and border patrol, and create a cesspool of illegal aliens run amuck in this country.

Actually the Dems will get nothing now. The senate had offered a number of compromises addressing many Dem concerns but their base demanded intransigence. So now the remaining agencies will be funded through reconciliation.

 

[spike.t]

Why AI companies want you to be afraid of them

They built it. They're scared of it. They're selling it anyway.

www.bbc.com

 

[Tanks]

@spike.t proof on Chinese pollution and Zambian government’s collusion.

Zambia Helped Chinese Miner Cover Up Pollution Disaster, House Committee Finds — The Wall Street Journal

Zambia is relying on China to grow its copper-mining industry and owes Beijing $6.6 billion

apple.news

 

[spike.t]

@spike.t proof on Chinese pollution and Zambian government’s collusion.

Zambia Helped Chinese Miner Cover Up Pollution Disaster, House Committee Finds — The Wall Street Journal

Zambia is relying on China to grow its copper-mining industry and owes Beijing $6.6 billion

apple.news

Yup here is usa ambassador leaving speech...page 4 mentions it....

 

[Russ16]

Actually the Dems will get nothing now. The senate had offered a number of compromises addressing many Dem concerns but their base demanded intransigence. So now the remaining agencies will be funded through reconciliation.

Which they already were in OBBA and will be again in this reconciliation package.

Which is why Republicans were silly not to pass this bill a month ago. They could have started the reconciliation process then. It was all performative.

 

[skydiver386]

Never heard it before..just popped up on YouTube...mind you I have to keep googling the different types when brought up as can never remember the age and year pattern for each classification.....not that it interests me at all....load of bullshit as far as I can see...

+1

I'm a Conservative Republican slightly to the RIGHT of Ronald Reagan.

There are plenty of crack smoking purple haired leftist born the same day I was.

 

[Red Leg]

Which they already were in OBBA and will be again in this reconciliation package.

Which is why Republicans were silly not to pass this bill a month ago. They could have started the reconciliation process then. It was all performative.

Not at all. The Republican caucus has been operating under the assumption that they get one more bite at reconciliation apple this fiscal year. They are now having to use that opportunity on a fairly narrow issue. The senate in particular would have preferred resolution of funding issues through regular order. The nut wing of democrat base proved strong enough to prevent that from happening.

 

[Pheroze]

Not sure if anyone else pointed this out, but as a Canuck Pheroze should know - Charles is HM not HRH!

Couldn’t help myself . . .

Absolutely correct.

 

[Russ16]

Not at all. The Republican caucus has been operating under the assumption that they get one more bite at reconciliation apple this fiscal year. They are now having to use that opportunity on a fairly narrow issue. The senate in particular would have preferred resolution of funding issues through regular order. The nut wing of democrat base proved strong enough to prevent that from happening.

Yes but the republicans in the House knew that a month ago when they could have passed this bill.

 

[Scott CWO]

Which they already were in OBBA and will be again in this reconciliation package.

Which is why Republicans were silly not to pass this bill a month ago. They could have started the reconciliation process then. It was all performative.

Your interpretation of how funding usually works in Congress is interesting, if not creative.

 

[Russ16]

Your interpretation of how funding usually works in Congress is interesting, if not creative.

I didn’t say anything about how funding usually worked I was commenting on the specific instance.

I’m well aware of how congressional funding works it is part of my profession.

 

[Scott CWO]

I didn’t say anything about how funding usually worked I was commenting on the specific instance.

I’m well aware of how congressional funding works it is part of my profession.

What don’t you understand?

Congressional Democrats engaged in a high-stakes standoff by refusing to fund Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) without significant operational changes. This resistance led to a record-breaking 76-day partial shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that ended on April 30, 2026, when President Trump signed a compromise bill that funded most of the department while leaving immigration enforcement agencies unfunded for the time being.

The standoff ended when House Speaker Mike Johnson allowed a vote on a bill that funded "non-enforcement" agencies—such as the TSA, FEMA, and the Coast Guard—but excluded ICE and CBP.

• Democratic "Win": Democrats successfully decoupled general DHS operations from immigration enforcement, ensuring other federal workers were paid without conceding on ICE reforms. This was wrong.
• Republican Counter-Strategy: Republicans plan to fund ICE and CBP separately through a process called budget reconciliation, which would allow them to bypass a Democratic filibuster in the Senate.
• ICE Operations: Despite the lack of new funding in this specific bill, ICE and CBP continue to operate using billions in "slush fund" reserves allocated in previous legislation.
• The Freedom Caucus and most Republicans did not want to exclude ICE and CBP funding! So yes, they opposed separating those agencies out and wanted all the agencies funded normally.

This mess was caused by the Democrats. Blaming the Freedom Caucus and other Republicans is ridiculous. Separating out ICE and CBP funding should not have happened.

 

[Russ16]

What don’t you understand?

Congressional Democrats engaged in a high-stakes standoff by refusing to fund Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) without significant operational changes. This resistance led to a record-breaking 76-day partial shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that ended on April 30, 2026, when President Trump signed a compromise bill that funded most of the department while leaving immigration enforcement agencies unfunded for the time being.

The standoff ended when House Speaker Mike Johnson allowed a vote on a bill that funded "non-enforcement" agencies—such as the TSA, FEMA, and the Coast Guard—but excluded ICE and CBP.

• Democratic "Win": Democrats successfully decoupled general DHS operations from immigration enforcement, ensuring other federal workers were paid without conceding on ICE reforms. This was wrong.
• Republican Counter-Strategy: Republicans plan to fund ICE and CBP separately through a process called budget reconciliation, which would allow them to bypass a Democratic filibuster in the Senate.
• ICE Operations: Despite the lack of new funding in this specific bill, ICE and CBP continue to operate using billions in "slush fund" reserves allocated in previous legislation.
• The Freedom Caucus and most Republicans did not want to exclude ICE and CBP funding! So yes, they opposed separating those agencies out and wanted all the agencies funded normally.

This mess was caused by the Democrats. Blaming the Freedom Caucus and other Republicans is ridiculous. Separating out ICE and CBP funding should not have happened.

The bill Johnson allowed a vote on this week is the exact same bill the Senate passed a month ago. Johnson wanted to pass it when the Senate did. The freedom caucus wouldn't let him. They could have passed it then and still started the reconciliation process to fun ICE etc.

The original shutdown is absolutely caused by Democrats. The last month delay in partial funding has been the fault of conservatives in the House. They knew a month ago that they couldn't get Democrats to change their position and that they would need to use reconciliation. Both things are true.

 

[Scott CWO]

The bill Johnson allowed a vote on this week is the exact same bill the Senate passed a month ago. Johnson wanted to pass it when the Senate did. The freedom caucus wouldn't let him. They could have passed it then and still started the reconciliation process to fun ICE etc.

The original shutdown is absolutely caused by Democrats. The last month delay in partial funding has been the fault of conservatives in the House. They knew a month ago that they couldn't get Democrats to change their position and that they would need to use reconciliation. Both things are tr

Wrong to separate the agencies out and then blame the people trying to fix it.

 

[Brent in Az]