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...................As we both know some guys like it some dont but how any hunter thinks they are helping by taking the side the antis are on is something I dont understand. ............
These all or nothing statements are not conducive to discussion, discourse or conversation.
There are no anti hunters in this discussion.
Are you taking the side of the Anti's by suggesting that "we clean up our own house" ?
If I were to use the same black and white processes, your comment sounds critical of hunting to me and is siding with the Anti's.
To take it even further:
Why did you let your son pursue the lion?
Why not just shoot it in a cage and save the time and expense?
I can only assume that you would not find that acceptable.
If someone were to call that (shooting in a cage) "hunting" would you have to side with them?
Aren't they "hunters"?
I don't think so. I doubt you do either.
But within a broad definition in my local legislation shooting at or attempting to kill it is hunting.
“hunt” means, subject to subsection (6), with reference to a subject animal,
- (i) shoot at, harass or worry,
- (ii) chase, pursue, follow after or on the trail of, search for, flush, stalk or lie in wait for,
- (iii) capture or wilfully injure or kill,
- (iv) attempt to capture, injure or kill, or
- (v) assist another person to hunt in a manner specified in subclause (i), (ii), (iii) or (iv) while that other person is so hunting;
Where is the line?
Where is it for the majority of people?
.............. We need to clean up are own house and the antis should not be helping with the clean up unless you want them coming after more hunting rights. .........
The MAJORITY of people in your country DO NOT HUNT.
That means even if every hunter in every jurisdiction voted one way, we would still lose.
So, Politically, we had better get started with the cleaning.
Apparently, the MAJORITY (90%) of the "raised lions" are taken by citizens of the USA.
The SAPA folks appear to know that the USFWS can kill their industry in one fell swoop; Ban Lion imports.
How would you like to convince the rest of your fellow countrymen (never mind hunters) to support raised lion hunting?
If you dont like raised lions being hunted or want the system fixed help fix it. .....................
PHASA is. They just made a statement that says they do not support the status quo. That is the start of the house cleaning.
The point Jaco made, that I just reiterated.
Point out the (some) solutions.
Make some suggestions.