Kudu Pricing?

[dchum]

While I have never bought or participated in an auction hunt, I have read a fair amount about them with interest. I went thru the SCI and DSC hunt lists out of curiosity. One thing I noticed is that quite a few of the offers had the condition that it could not be combined with any other hunt. I am assuming they mean with a different outfitter (please correct me if I am wrong). How can they do that? Seems like quite a stretch.

They can’t control your life once they drop you off, that is hilarious language.

I hope you read it wrong, I really do.

Maybe one outfitter has multiple different hunts on the auction block. And they mean you can combine both of the auction hunts at once. That could make some sense. Maybe…

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

While I have never bought or participated in an auction hunt, I have read a fair amount about them with interest. I went thru the SCI and DSC hunt lists out of curiosity. One thing I noticed is that quite a few of the offers had the condition that it could not be combined with any other hunt. I am assuming they mean with a different outfitter (please correct me if I am wrong). How can they do that? Seems like quite a stretch.

This is a common clause in many donations.

I’ve seen it state this with reference to other hunts they’ve donated. Typically something like “winners of multiple donated hunts can’t use them in the same year”.

I’ve also seen it referenced to “cannot be combined before or after with any other hunt in South Africa or Namibia”. I know of one donation where they expanded saying a violation of this hunt or trip wise would result in being invoiced the full “value” of the donation

 

[Rare Breed]

Frontier's trophy list is starting to get pretty out of hand. They do still have good packages. But in the last few years their trophy price list has started to look very similar to places that offer free auction hunts and then have silly priced add on lists.

$1,000 for a baboon
$1,000 for a Jackal
$1,000 for a blesbok
$1,000 for an impala
I really could go on and on.

There are a ton on their list that are out of sorts with market prices.

to be clear, I actually really like Frontier. And their packages offer a great value. However, their price list lately is making it hard to recommend it to friends.

I agree…I always looked at their packages never their individual animals. To your point I am not paying $1,000 each for the animals you are showing!

 

[Tbitty]

Frontier's trophy list is starting to get pretty out of hand. They do still have good packages. But in the last few years their trophy price list has started to look very similar to places that offer free auction hunts and then have silly priced add on lists.

$1,000 for a baboon
$1,000 for a Jackal
$1,000 for a blesbok
$1,000 for an impala
I really could go on and on.

There are a ton on their list that are out of sorts with market prices.

to be clear, I actually really like Frontier. And their packages offer a great value. However, their price list lately is making it hard to recommend it to friends.

Wow, I had to go check their website myself after seeing this post. I was very close to booking with them a few years ago after meeting them at DSC. Their plains game package price was very competitive then and I thought I reviewed their add-on price list to see it was in line with others. I ultimately went a different direction then, but if Id have seen prices like this, it would have been a short conversation.

 

[Sabre]

These kind of prices really pisses me off. Hunting in Africa shouldn’t be comparable to shopping for a used car. I immediately move on to next outfitter when I see this kind of thing.

What bothers me is it is massively discounted as part of a package. I wish outfitters would just write a 7 day 5+ species minimum and write realistic price lists. It shouldn’t be a used car negotiation.

This is my issue as well. My interest gets burnt out when things are priced 2X, 3X, or in the case of varmints, 10X market value, and then some people get them for free, some pay market value, and some get absolutely robbed. Make one price list that is fair to everyone. No part of me wants a safari to feel like a 10 day used car negotiation. That feels bad and gross.

It will feel especially bad for the guy standing there at the end of safari finding out he paid 2X the price for a Kudu as the guy next to him who shot a better Kudu than he did.

 

[Adipose]

I hope you told him to F### off !

Yes we ended up calling around and had another outfitter come and pick us up. we ended our hunt there early.

 

[Sabre]

While I have never bought or participated in an auction hunt, I have read a fair amount about them with interest. I went thru the SCI and DSC hunt lists out of curiosity. One thing I noticed is that quite a few of the offers had the condition that it could not be combined with any other hunt. I am assuming they mean with a different outfitter (please correct me if I am wrong). How can they do that? Seems like quite a stretch.

I would imagine that wording means that you can't combine it with any other hunt with that outfitter. I really can't see how they could legally stop you from hunting with another outfitter before or after hunting with them.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

I would imagine that wording means that you can't combine it with any other hunt with that outfitter. I really can't see how they could legally stop you from hunting with another outfitter before or after hunting with them.

While I do agree it would be hard to legally stop or enforce they do mean with other outfitters. Below is a screen shot from one of the more "well known" DU Banquet Donors that expressly states "another outfitter in South-Africa or Namibia". This is one of many such clauses I've seen at different banquets and auctions.

Anyone interested in bidding on any auction hunt REALLY needs to have done their homework a month or two before. I'd suggest talking to the outfitter, his/her references, scope the website, confirm the area, and check trophy fees/pricing. Not all auction hunts/donated hunts are created equal. There are some great ones out there, but be very cautious because for every good one there are 50 not so good ones.

 

[Sabre]

While I do agree it would be hard to legally stop or enforce they do mean with other outfitters. Below is a screen shot from one of the more "well known" DU Banquet Donors that expressly states "another outfitter in South-Africa or Namibia". This is one of many such clauses I've seen at different banquets and auctions.

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Anyone interested in bidding on any auction hunt REALLY needs to have done their homework a month or two before. I'd suggest talking to the outfitter, his/her references, scope the website, confirm the area, and check trophy fees/pricing. Not all auction hunts/donated hunts are created equal. There are some great ones out there, but be very cautious because for every good one there are 50 not so good ones.

Really trying to wrap my mind around this. I get from a very skeezy standpoint why they would try and say this. They want you to shoot extra animals with them at a high markup.

But, at the same time, I can't imagine dealing with someone that tells me what I can do with my time before and after a hunt with them.

I've never seen that before, and I've never even thought to ask a prospective outfitter if they ban me from hunting with someone else before or after them.

Those two sentences from their contract/listing, should be enough for almost every client to walk away from them instantly.