Kakar Deer & How We Typically Hunt Them

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  1. Panther Shooter

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    Due to the overtly depressing set of circumstances which has recently been plaguing the entire world for more than two months now , most of us have not had the good fortune to hunt recently ( except for those who have access to private properties , where game can either be found , or frequently wanders in , such as @Major Khan Sir and @Kawshik Rahman ) for quite a while . Hopefully , the lockdown in Bangladesh will be lifted on the 25th of this month and then I may be able to go back and resume my favorite hobby of all time .

    Until that happens however , I have decided that I would keep the spirits of all the members of AH forums up today . By relating a story about my most recent Shikar , prior to the outbreak of the nefarious COVID19 Coronavirus- My Shikar for a Kakar Deer . Granted , it is pretty mundane compared to some of my Shikars for more dangerous game in the past ( namely man eating Hunting Leopards ) . However, I believe that sometimes the stories about the simple Shikars are worth writing about , as well .

    There are three types of deer found all across the country . They are :
    1) Chital ( Axis ) Deer : Found in the Sundarban mangrove forests , Nijhoom Deap and Jamalpur ( South West side of the Country) .
    2) Kakar ( Barking ) Deer : Found in the Maulvi Bazaar forests and the Chittagong Hill Tracts ( North East and South East sides of the country )
    3) Sambhar Deer: Found only in the Bandarban forests , near the Chittagong Hill Tracts ( South East side of the country ) .

    A Kakar Deer is the smallest of these three , and a fully mature male weighs only 18 kilograms .
    They are either shot in forested area between the 1st of December to the 30th of January ( with permission being taken from the local police DC of the area ) or they are shot on private property ( with the consent of the land owners ) . They may either be taken down with a rifle or a shotgun , depending upon the hunting style which the Shikari feels most comfortable with .

    Aside from the sporting calibers for which firearms and cartridges can be readily found at local firearms shops ( .22 Long Rifle, .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire , 12 Bore ) , license holders for firearms may also use an authorized importer to import a rifle or cartridges of any of the four following calibers ( Currently . This list is scheduled to hopefully increase over the next few years. ) for their private ownership and use :
    1) .22 Hornet
    2) .243 Winchester
    3) 7x57 millimeter Mauser
    4) 7 millimeter Remington Magnum
    License holders for fire arms not mentioned in the above list ,typically purchase their firearm from a foreign country and bring back cartridges ( or reloading components) privately into the
    country , every time they are returning from a trip made to a foreign country ( from where they purchased the cartridges ) .

    By far , the most popular firearms for hunting Kakar Deer are either a .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire ( employing a 40 grain full metal jacket cartridge) or a 12 Bore shotgun. If the Kakar Deer is to be taken by way of stalking at long range , then the rifle is the preferred option . If the Kakar Deer is taken by way of stalking at close range , then a rifle or shotgun can both be viable options.
    If the Kakar Deer is taken by way of conducting beats , then a shotgun is preferred . This is because the Kakar Deer is moving extremely fast towards the direction of the Shikari.


    While I have shot quite a few Kakar Deer in the past with my 7 millimeter Remington Magnum by way of stalking , I mostly prefer to use a 12 Bore shotgun to shoot Kakar Deer which the beaters drive towards me . I own a Beautiful William Wellington Greener 12 Bore ( 2 3/4 inch chambers) double barrel side by side Wildfowl Gun , which is equipped with double triggers, automatic ejectors and 30 inch long barrels ( Left= Full Choke. Right= Improved Modified Choke ) , and this serves all of my wing shooting and Kakar Deer hunting needs , marvelously. For hunting Kakar Deer , the ideal shot size is either American 4 Buck or English AAA or Australian AAA ( The whole idea is to get a spread ) .
    I myself have been exclusively using Winchester Australia’s 12 Bore 32 gram 2 3/4 inch AAA cartridges ( which hold 42 pellets to the cartridge) since the last 45 years of my life , and I am am quite pleased to say that they have never let me down. Even though Winchester Australia ceased to manufacture AAA cartridges quite a few years ago , I have stockpiled enough fresh unopened cartridge boxes over the years to last me at least five more years before I need to even consider making a switch of ammunition choices . As of now , I still possess over 560 cartridges of Winchester Australia 12 Bore 32 gram AAA , and I intend to put them to very good use.

    This January 1st , my son in law and I visited the Tea Estate of a close , personal friend who lives in Sri Mangal . He ever so generously invites us a few times through out the year to hunt Kakar Deer on his property . And this year was no different. My son in law ( who prefers to stalk his Kakar Deer ) had brought along his 7x57 millimeter Mauser ( An Anschutz Savage Model 110 bolt action rifle ) , while I had brought along my 12 Bore William Wellington Greener Wildfowl Gun.
    We spent the first day resting , chatting with my friend and his family and preparing all of the staff at the Tea Estate about our plans for the Kakar Deer Shikar on the following day . It was decided that on the very first day , I would hunt my Kakar Deer by way of having a beat conducted . On the second day , my son in law would hunt his Kakar Deer by stalking it .

    We set off early in the morning , into the depths of the Tea Estate. I had my 12 Bore William Wellington Greener Wildfowl Gun , loaded with an AAA cartridge in each barrel. I carried eight extra cartridges , in the pockets of my sleeveless hunting jacket ( as an added precautionary measure) . Accompanying us , were two of the employees of the Tea Estate . These hard working men are of Shaotaal ancestry ( Their tribes have been living in the hills of the Maulvi Bazaar forests for centuries ) and therefore , they are intimately familiar with every nook and cranny of the Tea Estate . They were appointed as our head beaters . Each of them , were leading three very well trained Alsatian dogs .
    In less than an hour , we reached a patch of the Tea Estate where our head beaters had ( on the previous night ) reported the presence of at least two dozen Kakar Deer . On the other end of this area , we could see 14 more Shaotaal beaters ; ready to carry out their duties faithfully . All of them were wearing bright orange aprons . This is an absolute necessity , for Shikars which are to be conducted by way of beats. It is a mandatory precautionary measure , in order to prevent the Shikari from mistakenly shooting one of the beaters . Our two head beaters ( and our six Alsatian dogs ) ran off to join the other beaters , while my son in law stayed behind with me .

    In roughly 20 minutes , the beat had begun . The beaters used bamboo sticks and shouted continuously , in order to “ Drive “ the Kakar Deer towards the direction of myself and my son in law . The well trained Alsatian dogs certainly were useful . I waited on my edge of the area , carefully clutching my 12 Bore . I could see the Kakar Deer slowly making their way towards our direction. My son in law ( having a pair of binoculars on his person ) proceeded to provide me with “ intel “ as to which of the Kakar Deer were the largest , most matured males . I quickly made up my mind , as to which of the beasts I wanted to shoot . At a distance of 26-27 feet , I whipped the 12 Bore up to my shoulder and took aim at him . I pulled the right trigger, just as he was turning his head to look at one side of the area .Those 42 pellets of Australian AAA caught the Kakar Deer, right in the area where the neck meets the shoulder . With a low guttural sound , the animal dropped to the ground . His life had been extinguished , cleanly and quickly .

    I let the other Kakar Deer pass through the area , unharmed . As soon as they were gone , I handed my Schrade Old Timer “ Trapper “ model carbon steel pocket knife to my son in law and told him to go and make the meat , “ Halal “ . The young man went and recited “ Bismillah Hirrahman Irrahim “ ( Praise be to Allah . He is most gracious and most merciful to all of His creations ) , while cutting the throat of the dead Kakar deer ; taking great care to sever all of the veins and arteries properly . And , that was that . My very first Kakar Deer Shikar for 2020 was a success and we had some lovely Kakar venison for the larder . He weighed just above 17 kilograms.

    I tipped every single one of the Shaotaal beaters generously for their top notch service and hard work . They then, shyly asked me if I could shoot a wild boar for them to be able to enjoy some fresh pork , knowing all too well that I would definitely say , “ Yes” . It has long since been an unspoken agreement between the Shaotaal beaters and us , for many years . Every time that they aid my son in law and I in hunting a Kakar Deer , both my son in law and I each shoot a wild boar to give to the loyal and hard working men ( and their families ) . Thus , I spent the later part of the day hunting a 135 kilogram wild boar , knowing that I would be accompanying my son in law on the following day for his Kakar Deer Shikar . But , those are stories for another day .
    Hopefully , I shall be returning to Shikar in less than a week and I cannot wait .

    I hope that this relatively mundane story was not too boring. I heartily apologize , if it was . Normally , I get more excited writing about the exciting stories of my “ Golden Days “ where I used to hunt man eating Hunting Leopards . However, @mark-hunter , @375Fox and @gesch have voiced a desire to read about a basic deer Shikar story from modern times . And thus , here we are . I genuinely hope that this small and simple story may cheer up at least a few of our fellow members of AH forums.

    THE END





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    Kakar Deer shot by the Author.

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    12 Bore William Wellington Greener Wildfowl Gun.

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    Winchester Australia 12 Bore AAA 32 gram cartridges stockpiled by the Author.

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    Winchester Australia 12 Bore 32 gram AAA cartridge used by the Author to hunt the above pictured Kakar Deer.
     
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  2. 375Fox

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    Thank you for writing. I suppose you writing this article would be like me writing on hunting whitetail deer in my backyard, but It’s neat for me to see the hunting that currently exists in Bangladesh.
     

  3. Major Khan

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    42 pellets ?! So that is how much these Winchester Australia 12 Bore 32 gram AAA cartridges actually hold , @Bob Nelson 35Whelen and @CBH Australia .

    Panther Shooter , your little report certainly cheered me up . As soon as the lock down is lifted ... let us all go out for a Greylag Geese shikar , in May . Old Kawshik and I have not seen you in a month .
     

  4. Panther Shooter

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    I am honored that you have enjoyed it. Out of layman’s curiousity, exactly how heavy can your USA Whitetail Deer typically get , on average ?
     

  5. Panther Shooter

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    It shall be my honor . Shall we be hunting in Munshiganj , this year ? The greylag geese in that area can get exceptionally big , you know.
     

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    I was thinking the exact same thing !
     
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    Very nice story on your hunt. A different hunting technique but one I would enjoy also. I had to look up the "Alsatian" breed of dogs your guys used. Learn something new every day. Thanks for sharing a different part of the world with us.
     

  8. 375Fox

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    Honestly, I’ve never seen a whitetail deer weighed in Pennsylvania and we gut them in the field before dragging out of the woods, but I would estimate a nice doe to weigh maybe 120-150 lbs, a 1.5 year old buck maybe 150, and a 3.5 year old buck (typically as old as you will find here due to hunting pressure) maybe 200 lbs.
     

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    I am honored that you have enjoyed this simple, little story so much . We actually use Alsatian dogs quite a lot for Shikar . I have used them in the past for hunting Kakar Deer over dogs . However , you cannot use AAA cartridges to hunt Kakar Deer over dogs , because there will always remain a small risk of some of the AAA shotgun pellets hitting the dogs.
     

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    I’m amazed at how restrictive your rifle choices are, I suppose we are really lucky here. 243 Winchester is probably the most popular here in Pennsylvania for hunting whitetail, but I think it’s a little small, I like using my 270 win.
     

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    I enjoyed the short story Panther Shooter. It’s nice to know about the modern hunting in your country.
     

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    America is blessed , and truly a marvelous nation . In Bangladesh ( from a legal point of view ) , you can own any caliber or rifle that you like ( except .303 British . However, this law was enacted prior to 1947 . During the British colonial era . Our government simply never cared to repeal the law ) . However , availability of ammunition becomes an issue . For instance , a Shikari who wants to own a .30-06 Springfield will need to :
    1) Apply for a Non Prohibited Bore rifle license .
    2) Go to a foreign country , like the USA.
    3) Purchase a .30-06 Springfield and cartridges.
    4) Bring it back to Bangladesh.

    Every time the Shikari needs fresh cartridges, he will need to go to a foreign country , purchase them and bring them back to Bangladesh.

    However, I am still personally content with our firearms laws laws , compared to most other Asian countries like Vietnam , China, Malaysia or Singapore ( Where firearms ownership is outright prohibited) or India ( where imported fire arms are prohibited, shot sizes larger than No.1 are prohibited, you can only own one locally made fire arm and you are only allowed to own a very small amount of cartridges without the option to purchase more until you have exhausted your existing supply ) . In Bangladesh , an ordinary citizen ( without a criminal record ) may apply for up to six firearms licenses and we have wide access to imported firearms. With the exception of .303 caliber rifles or 9 millimeter Parabellum caliber pistols , we are not legally prohibited from owning any caliber of firearm ( except if it is fully automatic) .

    Our firearms availability and laws are also slowly ( albeit steadily) improving.
    After Bangladesh first became independent in 1971 , the only two sporting calibers of firearms and ammunition available in firearms shops were .22 Long Rifle and 12 Bore. From 1996 onwards , importers were given the authorization to import 7x57 millimeter Mauser caliber rifles and cartridges, if any customer placed an order . Eight 7x57 millimeter Mauser caliber rifles ( Anschutz Savage Model 110 bolt action rifles ) were also imported into the country in 1996 in bulk and were put up for sale by Bangladesh Shooting Federation , along with a stock of Winchester Super X 175 grain soft nose cartridges. From 1998 onwards , importers were given the authorization to import 7 millimeter Remington Magnum caliber rifles and cartridges into the country , if any customer placed an order . From 2003 onwards , importers were given the authorization to import .22 Hornet caliber rifles and cartridges into the country, if any customer placed an order . From 2010 onwards , importers were given the authorization to import .243 Winchester caliber rifles and cartridges into the country , if any customer placed an order . From 2015 onwards , .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire caliber Austrian ISSC bolt action rifles and cartridges have started getting imported into the country in bulk and began to appear on the shelves of every firearms shop . In 2019 , our import tax for firearms users who wished to import firearms through importers , got reduced to half .

    By 2023 , Bangladesh Shooting Federation intends to persuade the government to authorize importers to import .30-06 Springfield caliber rifles and cartridges into the country , if any customer places an order .

    We are a third world country who only achieved independence 49 years ago . However even if progress is slow, I am optimistic that we shall slowly advance in the right direction in terms of firearms availability and laws. Our current government has countless recreational shooters and hunters in the cabinet . Many are even pushing to repeal the ban on .303 caliber rifles and to place the .303 British on the Non Prohibited Bore list . I am optimistic , that we shall succeed.

    I have fired a few .270 Winchesters over the years. They are marvelous rifles . I personally use a 7 millimeter Remington Magnum , for hunting Chital Deer and other game larger than Kakar Deer . Mine is a custom job , built for me by Master American custom rifle maker, Mr. Jim Zahm of Oregon, USA . On a Springfield Model 1903 receiver , with a stock of Turkish walnut and a Douglas barrel. It has never let me down, since 1976 .
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    I bought my daughter a .243 Winchester years ago ( It is a control round feed configuration Winchester Model 70 bolt action rifle) . Now , we use it to teach my grandsons how to shoot.
     
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    Very interesting reading how you hunt deer today in Bangladesh! I think there are some states in the US where you can still do game drives and even use dogs to chase the deer. Where I live in Colorado, you are not allowed to use a dog in big game hunting not even in retrieving downed game. My personal belief is we should use dogs to track and retrieve downed or wounded big game after shooting.
    Thanks for allowing us to experience your hunt vicariously through your writings!

    And yes sir I must agree “America is blessed.” Far from perfect and it is a constant work in progress to maintain our liberties.
     
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    I am honored that you have enjoyed this short story.
     

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    I am much inclined to agree with you. Among my many favorite American things , are the 7 millimeter Remington Magnum and the Springfield Model 1903 receiver. Fortunately in 1976 , Mr. Jim Zahm of Oregon, USA was able to combine both my favorite caliber and my favorite platform into one beautiful custom rifle .
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    Dear Sir, I am so grateful that you remembered my humble request, of describing modern day hunting in Bangladesh!
    Thank you for your time, and this story, which I enjoyed this morning with my first coffee!
     

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    Sir, really enjoyed the article. Seems like the deer is somewhat similar in size to a our Roe deer.
     

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    Panther Shooter, thanks for sharing your / a typical deer hunt with us. As you said, we are all cooped up and looking for a little excitement. There are a number of different species of deer in the U.S. The larger White Tails are generally found in the Northern States and smaller versions in the Southern States. However there has been significant efforts to relocate some of the genetics so that the larger species can now be found in the South as well. BTW is your rifle equipped with a receiver / peep sight? If so, what brand is it?
     

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    Enjoyed the read, thanks for sharing!
     
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    I am honored that you enjoyed it , first thing in the morning.
     

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