HAS ANYONE EVER TAKEN A SHIP

Love hearing all the good and bad and recommendations from people that actually know cargo ships.

For years I have thought about this exact idea. A no planes safari.

Start in Vancouver and board the Rocky Mountain express. They have a coast to coast package that takes 20days.

Then board a ship "of some sort" and head either across the Atlantic and down, or a more direct path.

And finally. Take a Land Cruiser or open Land Rover up through SA into Zim etc

All not practical, but still. If I had the time and funds someday. Would be a glorious couple months
 
The "standard" of a new merchant vessel today is WAY behind anything built 30years ago.
Claiming anything else just shows one has no idea of the subject.
Latest move for general cargo ships is returning to common bathrooms for the crew. It is all about reducing cost of both building and operation.
 
To travel as they did 100- 150 years ago You would also need the patience they had to have back then. (No option)

Typhoons, Hurricanes, illnesses transmitted onboard. AC breakdowns, freshwater rations. Local Dock unrest or labor strikes, Piracy.

The romance comes with many pitfalls.
 
Being a passenger, were passengers allowed to bring weapons for safaris on board?

How would apersom go about getting passage?
Good question.
We carried military equipment as cargo.
Sometimes, ships on occasion took armed guards in piracy areas.
It seams, no problem, but....
Most flags prohibit firearms on board.
Now go figure.
We don't even have rocket signal pistols anymore. Just standard pyrotechnic.

The way to go is to contact the company (service provider) and ask for details.

If allowed, guns will be stored in a bonded store and locked under masters responsibility.
In practice, I dont see a problem with taking it out, and having some training at stern under masters supervision, and then returning it to locker.

(CMS CGM is the third biggest container company in the world. First is Measrsk, then MSC, then CMA CGM). Most probably all big companies will have a similar option for PAX.


This is info from internet:
To contact CMA CGM for freighter cruise inquiries or any other services, you can reach out to their customer service departments or specific regional offices. For cargo cruise bookings and price information, an email address is provided on their website (mrs.abeaumont@cma-travellers-club.com).
 
Typhoons, Hurricanes, illnesses transmitted onboard. AC breakdowns, freshwater rations. Local Dock unrest or labor strikes, Piracy.
In 20 years at deep sea, mostly on liner container vessels as officer in all ranks and master, I rarely experienced any of these.
I met a hurricane once, 200 miles of the coast of New York. That was bad.
There are weather services, and weather routing, and masters and companies do everything possible to avoid meeting a tropical storm. Sometimes can not be avoided. But you can choose a season to take the trip out of the tropical storm season. But chances in any case are small.

Illnesses, never - had only few kidney stones, and one STD collected in port by crew member, with emergency disembarkation, (scorbut epidemic does not happen any more, for last few centuries, and crew has valid medical fitness checks, one year validity).

Freshwater rations shortages, do not happen - water maker in use, 20 to 50 tons production per day, depending of the size of ship, and fresh water tanks are chlorinated and yearly certified for domestic use - thus drinkable, and every 3-4 or 15 days the ship is in port where it takes supplies including bottled water.

AC breakdowns.
AC is only recenty added in ILO convention as mandatory. Not so long ago, many ships did not have that at all(you can suvive withou ac). My first ship did not have AC and did not have GPS.

But, now is mandatory, My experience, loss of AC, in the worst case is one or two days, till they fix. There is ch electornic, chief electrician, Ac technician. And this happened maybe a few times, and I am on the ships or offshore since 1995.
Keep in mind that there are hundreds of refrigerated containers in transit, and the company will have trained, experienced personnel to fix a reefer container or AC problems on board.

Dock unrest and labor strikes, I have never seen it or affected the ships.
What I can assume, company will know about the strike, and the ship will be diverted to another port.
The worst thing that can happen is an additional day or two at anchorage. You can spend fishing at the stern, or the master can organize barbecue during that time.

Piracy remains an issue:
Somali coast
Mallaca and Singapore Strait
West Africa, Nigeria and neighborhoods
First, choose your trip wisely, avoid these areas.

If you must go there, you choose your ship wisely. If you find a route, ask the company name of ship and ships speed (technical details of the vessel can also be found on the internet).


Pirates never boarded the ship with speed over 15 knots.
Ships boarded up to 12 knots
Shots fired at vessel at speeds 15-18 knots. Small arms fire
20 knots, they do not even try.

Fast container liner runs at 20 to 24 knots.
Do not board VLCC tanker, or bulk carrier (Vsl speeds are less then 15 kots) in piracy areas if you dont have to.

I had piracy attack (attempted) once, we turned search lights on the approaching skiff, and started fire pumps with hoses directed at them, plus sounded a very loud alarm. Mallaca - singapore strait, eastern approaches. Actually it was me at the watch, started all actions, and then called master.

Pirates turned and never tried boarding. 26 years ago, around year 1999.

99.9% cargo ship travel is safe.

We had more problems with passengers.
Ship rolls at high swell, an elderly lady slips, and breaks a leg. Now organize medevac. Mid Pacific.
Passengers forgot their blood pressure pills, forgetting diabetes medicines, and discovered that at about half of the Atlantic), or disembarking and forgetting part of their luggage (on the opposite side of the world from where they live).

Ships, BTW, have a hospital with basic medicine supply and can improvise with basic medicines in such cases. Next port, required medicines will be organized and delivered by agent.
 
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"Owners cabin" and such is long gone in shipping,
On top deck there is usually masters cabin, ch engineers cabin, pilots cabin, and owners cabin.
Fact.
Owner tradition in general has disappeared, but owners cabin is used for VIP visitors, class inspectors, superintendants, line managers, passengers etc... those who are not crew but visit the ship for a specific reason.

Small owner tradition is still kept in Italy, Greece, and some Mediterranean countries.
I was on such a ship, the owners office across the berth, where we were berthed every 4 weeks. Owner was looking from his window in the office, but he never visited the ship.

I have never seen a large container ship without owner's cabin. It is standard.
 
Then you know everything! ;)
 
I say it depends on class of ship and shipping routes. International cargo ships we boarded were all to a "decent" standard, but dhow's, and coastal freighters were something else. Imagine tin cans hanging of the ships eyebrows to catch morning dew for drinking water, a shower used as a toilet, shit got so high only the feet prints on the top of the 5 gl buckets visible. What the guys were freaked out about most=not a single piece of TP in the massive piles. We saw no "passengers" on the 450 ships we visited and only 1 women, a masters "wife". This was not in NA waters, many places listed already were our OP areas.

Now as a Navy sailor we had hundreds of guest on board for some sails, Tiger cruises were a big hit with ships company members, = take a family member, Dutch Harbour to Vic, Vic to Hawaii, or take them on the glacier trip following the cruise ships, =all free we called them a "training ex".

Not an African vessel trip but my home Province of BC offers passenger rides on a few of the minor coastal replenishment vessels servicing no rd access villages around the BC coast.

Marine Link Tours:
Lady Rose Marine Services:
Get West Adventure Cruises:


I have friends who did the MV Uchuck 3 trip and were impressed.

I stick with getter to destination fast now. Air only.

MB
 
I say it depends on class of ship and shipping routes. International cargo ships we boarded were all to a "decent" standard, but dhow's, and coastal freighters were something else. Imagine tin cans hanging of the ships eyebrows to catch morning dew for drinking water, a shower used as a toilet, shit got so high only the feet prints on the top of the 5 gl buckets visible. What the guys were freaked out about most=not a single piece of TP in the massive piles. We saw no "passengers" on the 450 ships we visited and only 1 women, a masters "wife". This was not in NA waters, many places listed already were our OP areas.
Coast Guard or port state control officers will certainly meet such ships. Substandard mostly. But those ships and companies do not (regularly) take passengers. On the worst ships I have seen in my experience, nobody is even remotely thinking of taking passengers. The closest you can get to "passengers" on such ships is getting a stowaway.
Get on board a reputable company cargo liner, and don't worry. Maersk, CMA CGM, MSC, Hapag-Lloyd, etc.
 
Then there are the Somali Pirates.

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HWL
 
Have I taken a ship? Yes, but they made me give it back.
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Have I taken a ship? Yes, but they made me give it back.
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That is so true, first couple deployments when we detained the people above we handed them over to the US seals and they were taken to the "bullpen" ship. Never saw them again. On subsequent trips when the guys above dumped weapons in ocean and had nothing we were looking for, we let them go. They got smart real fast when the "Greyhounds of death" were close and after them. Out run a ship but not a heli and door guns.

Before I signed on and paid for any international cargo ship passenger trip more than any safari due diligence would be completed.

MB
 

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