Good Gun Deals This Week

These are pretty cool. I have a friend that had a .470 and it wore us out trying to get a load worked up/regulated. He ended up selling it due to this, but it was well built.
Too bad about your friends.. I know @Red Leg has one that shoots well. I also know he doesn’t like commenting on rifles he hasn’t put his hands on but he may chime in

Pretty attractive price (I believe) for an English (partially English) box lock
 
Too bad about your friends.. I know @Red Leg has one that shoots well. I also know he doesn’t like commenting on rifles he hasn’t put his hands on but he may chime in

Pretty attractive price (I believe) for an English (partially English) box lock
Yup. They generally have good reviews. In fact, if this was a .470 I may have considered it. I recall they were purportedly regulated with factory Federal A-frames. We tried that and initially they printed 8” or so apart.
 
Too bad about your friends.. I know @Red Leg has one that shoots well. I also know he doesn’t like commenting on rifles he hasn’t put his hands on but he may chime in

Pretty attractive price (I believe) for an English (partially English) box lock
These are pretty cool. I have a friend that had a .470 and it wore us out trying to get a load worked up/regulated. He ended up selling it due to this, but it was well built.

Mine has been absolutely problem free. I shoots Hornady DGS into the same group.
 
Cool gun. Be advised, it isn't the 375HH many might be thinking of. Its a lethargic 2.5" long cartridge that was used a lot in Europe in the early 20th century.

No..the M1910 is chambered in 9,5x57 Mannlicher Schoenauer....a 270 grainer in 2150fps and ME 2770. I have one and it is a very capable round for moose, wild boar, african antelope and it was used on the big cats.. It still has some following in SA..

The british called this cartridge .375 rimless..
 
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Winchester Model 70 Featherweight (Cabela's Limited Edition) in .257 Roberts

Looks like a pretty decent price to me, on a collectible rifle in a user-friendly caliber and with a nice piece of wood:

 

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Winchester Model 70 Featherweight (Cabela's Limited Edition) in .257 Roberts

Looks like a pretty decent price to me, on a collectible rifle in a user-friendly caliber and with a nice piece of wood:


A gentleman’s rifle. That is the perfect gift for a boy that can shoot it into his 80s for white tail. $1300 typically gets you plastic junk. Friends, this isn’t plastic and it isn’t junk.
 
Having a preference for uncommon but not obsolete calibres, I'd have this rifle in a heartbeat if I was in the US.
From an investment perspective I don't see how you could lose money on it other than trashing it.
 
I have no idea if this is a good deal or not. However, if I were in the market for a double, I would give this one serious consideration.

Rizzini USA 7001470 Rhino Express with 2rd 23", WITH NOSLER 80RD 470NE​


 

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This was my first DR. Look at the weight. It kicked the sh@$ out of me no matter what I did. They make beautiful guns in particular shot guns. They just don’t understand large bores. Whoever buys this will not be happy with the felt recoil
 
Yesterday, two Dakotas sold on GB. I had a conflict of interest in sharing them before closing as I was helping someone on a search. But the auctions close so I can share the story:

Two guns from same seller, both made in the 1990s. One gun was a 300HH, the other was a 416 Remington.

I was a fan of the 300HH gun, it was a base model on a 76 action, but it had the upgrade of XXX wood and a barrel band swivel with inletted Ken Howell stud and an ebony forend tip. No other upgrades whatsoever. Small bores that look nice aren't all that common. It sold just over $3600 and had the build sheet. It did not have a quarter rib and it had no iron sights, but it was a dandy of a gun in 300HH for American hunting or plains game.

The second gun I strongly suggested people in my circle avoid if they wanted a collector gun. It was a 416 Remington (I do not like them from a collector perspective) and it had mediocre wood, no extended floor plate, no upgrades, and it had simple iron sights with an island base. (no quarter rib, recoil reducer, etc.) That gun went for about $4000 which I didn't feel was a good value considering the much higher quality guns that are out there.

Both guns had the wonky leupold bases that obstructed the ejection port, but for $300 or so could have been swapped out for Talley rings and bases which I'm sure the owners will do.

Just passing on the info if you're keeping track of the Dakota collector world. I know people rave about the "Don Allen era" Dakota guns, but these particular guns didn't reflect a quality that was as high as later guns.
 

Mine has been absolutely problem free. I shoots Hornady DGS into the same group.


I think the "complaints" about these William Douglas guns comes from uninformed buyers rather than any quality issue with the guns themselves.

William Douglas was a noted gunmaker in the 20th century that made shotguns from mid-grades to best guns. They came and went, but someone bought the trade name.

In the mid-1990s somebody with ownership of the name made up some shotgun actions with double rifle barrels. All that I have seen were 470NE. When new, they were inexpensive guns. They look a LOT better than merkels and sabattis of the same original cost and in the era they were made. To top it off, they were English proofed guns.

They were a great value when new. Any gripe you find about them on the Internet is because some neophyte bought them thinking they were buying a used, mid-to-high end double rifle from London and probably paid more than they should have. That isn't the rifle's fault at all, only the buyer's. I view these guns similarly to the 1990s-2000s "pseudo-Rigby" rifles made in Paso Robles, California on Merkel actions. They were just fine unless a seller asked $30,000 and a buyer paid that thinking they bought a "real best grade London Rigby".

Auctions show these William Douglas guns going from $8,000-$12,000 typically, obviously outliers above/below those numbers based on upgrades and conditions.
 
Yesterday, two Dakotas sold on GB. I had a conflict of interest in sharing them before closing as I was helping someone on a search. But the auctions close so I can share the story:

Two guns from same seller, both made in the 1990s. One gun was a 300HH, the other was a 416 Remington.

I was a fan of the 300HH gun, it was a base model on a 76 action, but it had the upgrade of XXX wood and a barrel band swivel with inletted Ken Howell stud and an ebony forend tip. No other upgrades whatsoever. Small bores that look nice aren't all that common. It sold just over $3600 and had the build sheet. It did not have a quarter rib and it had no iron sights, but it was a dandy of a gun in 300HH for American hunting or plains game.

The second gun I strongly suggested people in my circle avoid if they wanted a collector gun. It was a 416 Remington (I do not like them from a collector perspective) and it had mediocre wood, no extended floor plate, no upgrades, and it had simple iron sights with an island base. (no quarter rib, recoil reducer, etc.) That gun went for about $4000 which I didn't feel was a good value considering the much higher quality guns that are out there.

Both guns had the wonky leupold bases that obstructed the ejection port, but for $300 or so could have been swapped out for Talley rings and bases which I'm sure the owners will do.

Just passing on the info if you're keeping track of the Dakota collector world. I know people rave about the "Don Allen era" Dakota guns, but these particular guns didn't reflect a quality that was as high as later guns.
I was watching those guns and wondered why the prices stayed so relatively low.
 
Not sure if this is a "deal" or not, but I didn't previously know that Kimber built rifles using BRNO actions:

 

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Cool gun. Be advised, it isn't the 375HH many might be thinking of. Its a lethargic 2.5" long cartridge that was used a lot in Europe in the early 20th century.
No, it is not.

The Mannlicher Schoenauer M1910 chambered a .375 X 2.25" cartridge (9.5X57 - .375 Nitro Express Rimless 2.25") which is not, and does not interchange with, the .375 X 2.5" Flanged Nitro Express cartridge which was also known as .375" Nitro Express 2 1/2" Velopex and .400 / .375 Belted Nitro Express.

The rifle shown in Altitude Sickness' post (#1766) is a Model M1910 Take Down Mannlicher Schoenauer:

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It eats these:

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I think the store owner said it was a .375 rimless
The store owner is correct.
 

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No..the M1910 is chambered in 9,5x57 Mannlicher Schoenauer....a 270 grainer in 2150fps and ME 2770. I have one and it is a very capable round for moose, wild boar, african antelope and it was used on the big cats.. It still has some following in SA..

The british called this cartridge .375 rimless..


You are quite correct, sir.

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