Encounter with an Anti Hunter

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  1. mark-hunter

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    Sorry for a bit O/T.
    But it is interesting how are we hunters very alike.
    Attached is my desktop screen!

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  2. CAustin

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    Keep up your good work Philip.
     
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  3. Kowas Hunting Safaris

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    The challenge is to "get" the other party to LISTEN and pay attention to the facts... That is challenging...
    Kudos to you, CAustin.
     
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  4. PatrickMa Ward

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    I’d be willing to bet that crusader has never even been to Africa. Just a guess.
     
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    Charlie, those 10 minutes you spent will go a long way and though we'll never know how many people that gentleman will relay that information too, it certainly is a perpetual help to the cause. Thanks for spending that time with him and passing on some education.
     
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  6. CAustin

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    Statistics show that folks who have a bad experience will likely tell 25 people. On the flip side those who have a positive experience will only tell three. Let's hope the young man tells some of his friends the facts.
     
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    Well done Charlie, great to have someone like you on our side (y)
     
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  8. Woody631

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    Great job Charlie.
    I had my first encounter at the age of 22. Funniest thing I ever seen. It was during the first day of the 1985 deer season. I was home on leave it was Thanksgiving time, hunting on public land in Indiana. Sun was just rising when I could hear a group of 20 or more men, women and children all in blaze orange. Singing BINGO clapping hands. Hell one guy even had a guitar. I was dumbfounded.
    When I brought this to the attention of the local Game Warden he laughed. And said poor fools are helping with the best deer drive in year's around here. Those days are gone now. Most protest at the entrance of check stations if you find one open. Now you can check in game from your phone. Oh for the old days
     
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  9. CAustin

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    So very true about people. We check deer online or over the phone in Arkansas and it sure make things easy.
     

  10. 50lawman

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    Consider yourself lucky. You ever try to clean one of them?
     
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    Yea there kind of tough eating too
     
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  12. Upton O. Good

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    I applaud your taking time to firmly and politely discuss the true aspects of hunting on local economies and the health/management of game AND non-game species. I find most hunters are reluctant to engage in these discussions and when they do, the talks quickly become confrontational. Reputable research data is usually very effective in these situations and it is clear you are prepared with both.

    Well done.
     
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  13. Timbo

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    Great stuff Charlie! I've had similar encounters - in person and on the net - and have had a lot of success. Maybe an interesting topic to discuss on our forthcoming hunt.
     

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    I recall as a young-un I watched "The Lion King" in the cinema, but could only stand so much before saying: "I've shot one of those!", or "That's a great shoulder shot right there!!", or "The horns I have at home are bigger than his!" etc etc - all I ever got was strange sideways looks from the nearby punters!! :ROFLMAO:
     
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  15. Scott Slough

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    Not public school education's fault...you have accused the antagonists in general (nonhunters) of not using facts when arguing with the protagonists (hunters)...and you do NOT have the facts to support your hypothesis that this is public education's fault!
     

  16. Velo Dog

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    Hi Scott Slough,

    I totally agree with you that, there are others (Hollywood for one example) in concert with the Public Education System on this topic.
    However, my parents were both career School Teachers.
    In disgust, they told me that nation wide, the trend is as I described in my previous post.
    As offensive as that information is for you, it is what it is.
    While we're at it, they also told me that, the Public Education System had begun efforts to convince children that, the Vegan Diet is healthier than the Traditional Omnivorous Diet is.
    Sorry but, please don't shoot the messenger here.

    Kind regards,
    Velo Dog.
     

  17. Scott Slough

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    Paul,

    First you brought up facts and brainwashing in sentence one and then presented beliefs about education as facts...I take exception with that logic process and would not have allowed it in my public school junior high science class.

    Second for your continued belief to be true, hunters would have to have come from somewhere other than a public school education. That us just not the case. I went to public school...and got a hell of an education...and I am a hunter. Every hunter that I personally know went to public school. Where did the hunters that you know go to school?
     

  18. Velo Dog

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    Hi Again Scott,

    I posted my opinion.
    Part of it is based on my own personal experiences in public schools and part is based on my aforementioned School Teacher parents' disgust with the increasing trend of said system to encourage "going green" and to tout anti-hunting / anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric.

    If it makes more sense for you to believe I was instead posting irrefutable facts, somehow, somewhere supported by flow charts, color coded graphs and mathematical conclusions, then go for it my friend.

    However, it is but my opinion (and I am entitled to it.)
    Either way, I suspect that you and I are probably not far apart in our belief systems.
    For instance the folks who raised me, exactly like yourself, quietly refused to serve the government coolaid in their individual classrooms.
    You and they are to be applauded for same.

    I went to public school in Los Angeles, K through Jr High.
    Then, High School in Sacramento.
    Even back in those horse & buggy days, more than one of my teachers spewed anti-hunting / anti-2nd Amendment rants regular enough that I remember it.
    My sophomore year / 10th Grade High School English Teacher went into an angry rant about a paper I wrote entitled something about self sufficient life styles, because I mentioned the right to keep and bear arms.
    My Junior Year / 11th Grade High School Teacher of Civics And Social Economics, was a Communist and all enthusiastic for gun control as well, by her own words.
    As for my other High School Teachers, I recall them being non-commital on such things.

    On this Anti-Hunting topic, our fellow AH member, Cal Pappas once told me that, when he began teaching school in Alaska, his School Falculty held a regular "Wild Game Pot Luck" after hunting season.
    By the time he retired, this event was long gone, due to lack of interest among the new generation of Teachers replacing the old outdoorsy types.
    That, and / or the general move toward "Political Correctness" in the Public Schools, (yes, even here in Alaska) slowly starved out the Wild Game Potluck at that specific school (Dimond High School, Anchorage).

    Opinion or fact, however you like.
    It still remains that I can see you are riled by my posts.
    For that, I do truly apologize.
    Such was never my intent.
    My opinion however remains unshaken by your semantics.

    Cheers,
    Velo Dog
    (Paul Ard, Anchorage)
     
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  19. Scott Slough

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    Paul,

    Public education, arguing semantics, and tilting at windmills are but a few of my faults!

    Cheers!
     
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  20. Velo Dog

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    Much to my parents' horror back then, I did not go for a college degree.
    Therefore I did not / could not become an Educator.

    Again I applaud those of you who are, while simultaneously refusing to bow to the anti-hunting / anti-2nd Amendment movement.
    (We need more like you).

    Any way, this leaves me with arguing semantics and tilting at windmills, among my numerous and diversified other character flaws as well.
     
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