Decent middle of the road optics for my .375?

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  1. Timt

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    Bwh, have had a look through a vx-6 and it is a good scope, i have several friends that use the 1-6x24 for driven hunts and I was considering getting one myself.

    The problem for me is that I pay almost the same for a illuminated 3-18x50 vx-6(2000$) as I pay for a new Zeiss HT(2200$), leica magnus(2150$), swaro z6i gen1(2200$) And the leupold does in my eyes not have the same clarity and light transmission as them. The prices might be different in the states and may make a huge difference. If say the leupold would be 1500 then I would definitly consider it.
     

  2. BWH

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    In my review/test of the aforementioned scopes..... i thought they were all outstanding. The only noticeable difference for me was weight. The leupolds are heavier, no doubt. However, I think that is why they are so damn durable & have the warranty they do. As for the glass, through my eyes (20/15 vision)... I saw NO advantage going euro. That is not a poke in the eye at them. just no reason. This is case & point of personal preference..... Warranty/Customer Service 2nd to none, should you have to ever use it.
     

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    I just paid $1100 for my VX6 3-18 44 illuminated from Bearbasin.com. Their price for the 50mm is $1,299. On the other hand, the Zeiss, Leica and Swaro's are more than what you can get them for Swaro illuminted z6 starts at $2500, the don't show a Leica magnus, but the ERs start around $1600 up to $2400 and then the Zeiss HT illuminated around $2500.

    So, you can see how the value is there for us in the states on the Leupold. And, I can see why, for a similar price you would choose what you do. Those are some amazing differences in prices with just a wee bit of water between us!
     
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    I think this nails it... I put a Leupold VX-1 on a rifle a couple of years ago. Why so cheap? One, to save money. Two, in the 30 minute before/after dark conditions I hunt in it was enough. The close range I hunt at was a factor too.

    And again Velodog, you point out the obvious for us. We are mostly overscoped, even if we don't want to admit it!!! :)
     
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    For 1100-1200$ there is no contest to be honest, that is alot of bang for the buck! You dont get 1300-1400$ better glass in the euros, that I will agree too.

    My problem has always been that for the cost of a leupold or within a very close range I could get a zeiss or swaro instead and therefore I could not see a reason to get a leupold. With that a massive pricedifference for you I can definitly see the reason (y)
     
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    Thanks Royal27,

    And yes, for some reason we N. Americans (myself definitely included) tend to over-think our equipment.
    Fact is, I obsess to the extreme about much of my hunting rifle related equipment.
    If that's not enough, I do the same regarding most of my fly fishing tackle (one of my other grievous addictions/character flaws).

    Cheerio,
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    I think this is because we are truly fortunate and spoiled to have so many choices. Which one to take today??? we always seem to ask. And then there is the advertising.... Can't kill anything without that latest camoflage of the day!!! Oh geez,I'm not going to get started on my opinion of camo!!!
     

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    Leupolds are great scopes, I just don't think they are as Bright as Nikons and some Vortex I Used
     

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    Nikon's and Vortex seems to have a yellow tint to me as I look through them. To my eyes Leupold is better for me. Guess everybody different.
     

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    When Nikon first hit the market here in Alaska, many years ago they were not worth the price of a hammer to smash them with - IMO.
    Now from time to time, people tell me Nikon optics have become pretty good.
    Perhaps I might have a look at them again one of these days.
    The original ones were blurry around the edges and were not good at all for light gathering either.
     
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    I agree and fully admit to being spoiled rotten compared to most.
     
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    Yeah that's no crap!!! Amen! Hard to admit, but damn truth.
     
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    I have the Nikon Monarch 3, 2 x 8 on my 375 Weatherby.

    I't durable, clear and bright.
     

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    I like Nikon Monarch 3's of which I have several. I also have Leupold VX3's, and the new Zeiss HD5's. The clarity of the glass of all 3 is exceptional. Really hard to tell the difference. If there was an edge I would give it to the Zeiss (the Zeiss does have a 5x power zoom ratio compared to the Nikon & Leupold's 4x). As I have mentioned in other posts you need to make sure the eye relief is at last 4" when shooting large calibres that excel at enhancing ones eyebrow! Ring height also needs to be comfortable for you.
    The Leupold tech I talked to a few weeks ago suggested the following mounts for heavy calibres: "If you are going to maintain the sights use either QR base set # 50063 or the other set that I would use is the Dual Dovetail set # 54240."

    Nikon makes it's own glass for their optics (scopes, camera's etc) which I like so your not ending up with a multicultural scope.
    Saying all this the scope I have on my BRNO 602 375H&H is an old Bausch & Lomb Balvar 3-9-42. Great scope. Clear optics. It has held up over 30+ years of shot after shot using heavy & light loads!
    Leupold has just posted a new VX-R scope on their website. The VX-R 1.5-5x33 Scout Firedot (http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shooting/scopes/vx-r-riflescopes/vx-r-1-5-5x33mm-scout-firedot/). I have sent the product specialists an email asking if this would work on a dangerous game type of rifle.

    Match the scope to the area, and animal being hunted.

    Decisions....decisions

    Have fun!
     

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    How does one mount that new scout scope on a CZ 550, Ruger 77, or Win. M70?
     

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    I haven't seen one on anything but I'm guessing the same as any other rifle scope. I haven't heard back from the tech at Leupold to say if it would work or not. If Leupold recommends the VX-R 1.25-4x20mm for dangerous game rifles I would imagine this would work as it is longer 12" vs 9.5". I'll guess we'll find out
     

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    With eye relief from 6" to 7.1" ... I'm not sure how you get that with standard mounts? The web site is still missing a lot of the dimensions. The Scout scopes on the Ruger **MENTIONING**LINKING**TO**FORUMS**NOT**PERMITTED** Scout rifle are mounted ahead of the action rather than over the action.

    I do know a couple shops that will actually mount up scopes to let you try them and see how they fit... I'll need to see if they get this model in.

    Otherwise it will be interesting when we can see pictures! Great to have new options:)
     

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    You are correct? Just heard from the Leupold dude. Won't work unfortunately....too bad looks like a neat scope. With that kind of eye relief I wonder if would work on a double?
     

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    Cabelas and several other places had a very good blowout on the Zeiss Terra 3x line. We're talking about $300-$400. CameralandNY has them also.

    I have a 2-7x33 on my long range slug gun and it works out well. I have a 4-12x42 on ruger #1. Great glass for the economy minded price. Lots of light transmission being the most important thing to me.

    The leupold 1-4x20 mentioned above would be a very good choice too.

    I don't know of anything better than those options until you get to the $1500 price point or above. (Swaro 1-6x22)
     

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