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I have 2 416 Rigby’s the Ruger RSM kicks about 3/4 of what my 470 NE Merkel does, the CZ 550 about 1/2 of what my 470 does. My CZ 375 H&H a little less then my CZ 416, and my CZ 9.3x62 a bit less then my 375.
 

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375......7
9,3 x 62....6
300 WM. ... 8
416 Rigby.....8,5
450…......9(458 WM)
470......10
I have fired all these rifles...the one I hate most on the range is the 300 WM.
Hunting in the bush I hardly notice the recoil on any rifle I shoot??
Seems my focus is elsewhere thank goodness.
 

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I will only rate the ones that I have shot:

Ruger M77 - 300 Win Mag - 3 (pretty mild compared to everything else on the list)
Mauser M98 - 9,3x62 - 4
Winchester M70 - 375 H&H - 5
CZ 550 - 416 Rig - 10 (this was a 400 grain at 2,500 fps.)
450/400 - Never fired one but from what I hear it is only slightly harder than a .375 so maybe a 6?
Krieghoff double 470 - 8 (This is from firing two rounds so it may not be objective but I didn't think it was that bad.)
 

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Great Table from Chuck Hawks. Website is:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

Cartridge (Wb@MV) Rifle Weight Recoil energy Recoil velocity
.17 HMR (17 at 2550) 7.5 0.2 n/a
.17 Rem. (25 at 4000) 8.5 1.6 3.5
.204 Ruger (33 at 4225) 8.5 2.6 4.4
.218 Bee (45 at 2800) 8.5 1.3 3.1
.219 Wasp (55 at 3300) 8.5 3.2 4.9
.219 Zipper (55 at 3400) 8.5 3.4 5.1
.22 LR (40 at 1165) 4.0 0.2 n/a
.22 WMR (40 at 1910) 6.75 0.4 n/a
.22 Hornet (45 at 2800) 7.5 1.3 3.3
.22 PPC (52 at 3300) 8.5 3.0 4.8
.221 Fireball (50 at 3000) 8.5 1.8 3.7
.222 Rem. (50 at 3200) 7.5 3.0 5.1
.223 Rem. (45 at 3500) 8.5 2.6 4.5
.223 Rem. (55 at 3200) 8.0 3.2 5.1
.223 Rem. (62 at 3025) 7.0 3.9 6.0
.225 Win. (55 at 3700) 8.5 4.4 5.7
.224 Wby. Mag. (55 at 3700) 10.0 3.6 4.8
.22-250 Rem. (55 at 3600) 8.5 4.7 6.0
.22-250 Rem. (60 at 3500) 12.5 3.1 4.0
.220 Swift (50 at 3900) 10.5 3.7 4.8
.220 Swift (55 at 3800) 8.5 5.3 6.4
.223 WSSM (55 at 3850) 7.5 6.4 7.4
.224 TTH (80 at 3550) 7.5 10.2 9.4
5.6x50 Mag. (60 at 3300) 7.5 4.0 5.9
5.6x52R (70 at 2800) 7.5 3.7 5.7
5.6x57 RWS (60 at 3800) 7.5 6.9 7.7
6mm PPC (85 at 2800) 7.5 5.3 n/a
6mm BR Rem. (80 at 3100) 8.5 5.2 6.3
6mm-223 (75 at 2950) 7.5 4.6 n/a
6mm Norma BR (95 at 2914) 8.5 5.9 6.7
6mm Lee Navy (112 at 2650) 8.5 6.5 7.0
.243 Win. (75 at 3400) 8.5 7.2 7.4
.243 Win. (95 at 3100) 7.25 11.0 9.9
.243 Win. (100 at 2960) 7.5 8.8 8.7
6mm Rem. (100 at 3100) 8.0 10.0 9.0
.243 WSSM (100 at 3100) 7.5 10.1 9.3
6mm-284 (105 at 3000) 7.5 10.9 9.7
6mm-06 (105 at 3000) 8.0 10.2 9.1
.240 Wby. Mag. (100 at 3406) 8.0 17.9 n/a
.25-20 Win. (86 at 1460) 6.5 1.3 3.5
.256 Win. Mag. (75 at 2400) 7.5 2.4 4.5
.25-35 Win. (117 at 2230) 6.5 7.0 8.3
.250 Savage (100 at 2900) 7.5 7.8 8.2
.257 Roberts (100 at 3000) 7.5 9.3 8.9
.257 Roberts (120 at 2800) 8.0 10.7 9.3
.257 Rob. Imp. (115 at 2900) 8.0 10.8 9.3
.25 WSSM (120 at 2990) 7.25 13.8 11.1
.25-06 Rem. (100 at 3230) 8.0 11.0 9.4
.25-06 Rem. (120 at 3000) 8.0 12.5 10.0
.257 Wby. Mag. (100 at 3602) 9.25 15.8 10.5
.257 Wby. Mag. (115 at 3433) 9.25 17.7 11.1
.257 Wby. Mag. (120 at 3300) 9.25 15.1 10.3
6.5mm Grendel (120 at 2600) 7.5 8.9 8.8
6.5x50 Arisaka (140 at 2600) 8.0 10.0 n/a
6.5x52 M-C (140 at 2200) 8.0 7.8 n/a
6.5x54 M-S (140 at 2400) 7.5 11.1 9.7
6.5x55 Swede (129 at 2700) 8.0 12.5 10.0
6.5x55 Swede (140 at 2650) 9.0 10.6 8.7
.260 Rem. (120 at 2860) 7.5 13.0 10.6
.260 Rem. (140 at 2750) 8.25 11.9 9.7
6.5x57 (140 at 2700) 8.0 12.5 10.0
6.5mm-284 Norma (140 at 2920) 8.0 14.7 10.9
6.5mm Rem. Mag. (120 at 3100) 8.0 13.1 10.3
6.5mm Rem. Mag. (140 at 2900) 8.5 13.9 10.3
6.5x68 S (140 at 2990) 8.5 16.8 11.3
.264 Win. Mag. (140 at 3200) 8.5 19.2 12.1
6.8mm Rem. SPC (115 at 2625) 7.5 8.0 8.3
.270 Win. (130 at 3140) 8.0 16.5 n/a
.270 Win. (140 at 3000) 8.0 17.1 11.7
.270 Win. (150 at 2900) 8.0 17.0 11.7
.270 WSM (130 at 3275) 8.0 18.7 12.3
.270 WSM (150 at 3000) 8.0 18.9 12.3
.270 Wby. Mag. (130 at 3375) 9.0 21.0 12.3
.270 Wby. Mag. (150 at 3000) 9.25 17.8 11.1
7-30 Waters (120 at 2700) 7.0 10.0 9.6
7x57 Mauser (139 at 2700) 8.75 11.7 9.3
7x57 Mauser (145 at 2725) 8.5 13.0 9.9
7x57 Mauser (160 at 2600) 8.0 14.3 n/a
7x57 Mauser (175 at 2500) 8.0 15.5 11.2
7mm-08 Rem. (120 at 3000) 7.5 12.1 10.2
7mm-08 Rem. (140 at 2860) 8.0 12.6 10.1
.284 Win (150 at 2860) 7.5 17.4 n/a
7x64 (154 at 2850) 8.0 17.9 n/a
7x65R (175 at 2600) 8.0 17.1 11.7
.280 Rem. (140 at 3000) 8.0 17.2 11.8
.280 Rem. (150 at 2900) 8.0 17.4 11.8
.280 Rem. (160 at 2800) 8.0 17.0 11.7
7x61 S&H Mag. (154 at 3000) 8.5 18.4 11.8
7mm Rem. SAUM (160 at 2931) 8.0 21.5 13.2
7mm WSM (140 at 3200) 8.0 20.7 12.9
7mm WSM (160 at 3000) 8.0 21.9 13.3
7mm Rem. Mag. (139 at 3100) 9.0 19.3 11.8
7mm Rem. Mag. (150 at 3100) 8.5 19.2 12.1
7mm Rem. Mag. (160 at 2950) 9.0 20.3 12.0
7mm Rem. Mag. (175 at 2870) 9.0 21.7 12.5
.275 H&H Mag. (160 at 3050) 8.5 19.5 12.2
7mm Wby. Mag. (140 at 3300) 9.25 19.5 11.7
7mm Wby. Mag. (160 at 3200) 9.0 25.6 13.5
7mm STW (160 at 3185) 8.5 27.9 14.6
7mm Ultra Mag. (140 at 3425) 8.5 25.3 n/a
7mm Ultra Mag. (160 at 3200) 8.5 29.4 n/a
.30 Carbine (110 at 1990) 7.0 3.5 5.7
.30 Rem. (170 at 2120) 7.5 9.8 9.2
.30-30 Win. (150 at 2400) 7.5 10.6 9.5
.30-30 Win. (160 at 2400) 7.5 12.7 10.5
.30-30 Win. (170 at 2200) 7.5 11.0 9.7
.30-40 Krag (180 at 2430) 8.0 16.6 n/a
.300 Sav. (150 at 2630) 7.5 14.8 n/a
.307 Win. (150 at 2600) 7.5 13.7 10.9
.308 Marlin Express (160 at 2660) 8.0 13.4 10.4
7.5x55 Swiss (150 at 2800) 9.0 12.9 9.6
.308 Win. (150 at 2800) 7.5 15.8 11.7
.308 Win. (165 at 2700) 7.5 18.1 12.5
.308 Win. (180 at 2610) 8.0 17.5 11.9
.30-06 Spfd. (150 at 2910) 8.0 17.6 11.9
.30-06 Spfd. (165 at 2900) 8.0 20.1 12.7
.30-06 Spfd. (180 at 2700) 8.0 20.3 12.8
.300 Rem. SAUM (180 at 2960) 8.25 23.5 13.6
.300 WSM (150 at 3300) 8.25 22.5 13.3
.300 WSM (180 at 2970) 7.25 27.1 15.5
.300 WSM (180 at 2970) 8.25 23.8 13.6
.308 Norma Mag. (180 at 3000) 8.5 25.9 14.0
.300 Win. Mag. (150 at 3320) 8.5 23.5 13.3
.300 Win. Mag. (165 at 3110) 8.0 26.2 14.5
.300 Win. Mag. (180 at 2960) 8.5 25.9 14.0
.300 H&H Mag. (180 at 2920) 8.5 23.1 13.2
.300 Dakota (180 at 3100) 8.5 28.3 14.7
.300 Wby. Mag. (150 at 3400) 9.25 24.6 13.1
.300 Wby. Mag. (180 at 3240) 9.0 31.6 15.0
.300 Ultra Mag. (180 at 3230) 8.5 32.8 15.8
.30-378 Wby. Mag. (180 at 3300) 9.75 42.6 16.8
7.62x39 Soviet (125 at 2350) 7.0 6.9 8.0
.303 Savage (170 at 2170) 7.5 10.3 9.4
7.65x53 Mauser (180 at 2500) 8.0 15.4 n/a
7.62x53R Finn (150 at 2800) 9.0 13.1 9.7
7.62x54R Russian (150 at 2800) 9.0 13.1 9.7
7.62x54R Russian (174 at 2600) 9.0 15.0 10.4
.303 British (150 at 2700) 7.5 14.2 11.0
.303 British (180 at 2420) 8.0 15.4 11.1
7.7x58 Jap (150 at 2700) 9.0 11.9 9.2
.32-20 Win. (100 at 1984) 6.5 3.3 n/a
.32 Spec. (170 at 2250) 7.0 12.2 10.6
8x56 M-S (170 at 2260) 8.0 12.4 10.0
8x57 Mauser (170 at 2400) 8.0 13.6 10.4
8x57JS Mauser (150 at 2900) 8.0 17.1 11.7
8x57JS Mauser (195 at 2500) 8.0 18.5 12.2
.325 WSM (180 at 3060) 7.5 33.1 16.9
.325 WSM (220 at 2840) 7.5 37.5 17.9
8x68S (150 at 3300) 8.5 25.3 13.9
8x68S (200 at 2950) 9.0 29.1 14.4
8mm Rem. Mag. (200 at 2900) 8.5 32.9 15.8
.33 Win. (200 at 2100) 8.0 13.9 10.6
.338-57 O'Connor (200 at 2400) 8.0 19.2 12.4
.338 Marlin Express (200 at 2400) 8.0 16.2 11.4
.338 Marlin Express (200 at 2600) 8.0 22.0 14.0
.338 Federal (200 at 2600) 7.0 22.2 14.3
.338 Federal (210 at 2630) 8.0 21.9 13.3
.338-06 A-Square (200 at 2800) 8.0 23.9 13.9
.338-06 A-Square (250 at 2500) 8.5 28.2 14.6
.338 Win. Mag. (200 at 2950) 8.5 32.8 15.8
.338 Win. Mag. (225 at 2780) 8.5 35.2 16.3
.338 Win. Mag. (250 at 2700) 9.0 33.1 15.4
.330 Dakota (250 at 2878) 8.5 40.5 17.6
.340 Wby. Mag. (200 at 3100) 10.0 29.6 13.8
.340 Wby. Mag. (250 at 2941) 9.0 43.4 17.6
.338 Ultra Mag (250 at 2860) 8.5 43.1 n/a
.338 Lapua Mag. (225 at 3000) 9.5 37.2 15.9
.338-378 Wby. Mag. (250 at 3040) 11.75 41.1 15.0
.348 Win. (200 at 2510) 8.0 23.7 n/a
.357 Mag. (158 at 1650) 7.0 4.7 6.6
.35 Rem. (200 at 2050) 7.5 13.5 10.8
.356 Win. (200 at 2400) 7.5 17.5 n/a
.358 Win. (200 at 2490) 8.0 20.9 13.0
.358 Win. (250 at 2260) 7.66 23.0 13.9
.35 Whelen (200 at 2675) 8.0 22.6 13.5
.35 Whelen (225 at 2525) 8.0 25.0 14.2
.35 Whelen (250 at 2400) 7.5 27.9 15.5
.350 Rem. Mag. (200 at 2700) 8.5 22.3 13.0
.350 Rem. Mag. (225 at 2550) 8.5 24.2 13.5
.350 Rem. Mag. (250 at 2500) 8.5 29.0 14.8
.358 Norma Mag. (250 at 2723) 9.0 31.2 15.0
9.3x57 (232 at 2330) 8.5 19.8 12.2
9.3x62 (250 at 2450) 8.5 25.7 14.0
9.3x62 (270 at 2550) 8.5 33.3 n/a
9.3x62 (286 at 2360) 9.0 28.0 14.1
9.3x64 (286 at 2650) 9.0 36.5 16.2
9.3x74R (250 at 2550) 9.0 29.1 14.4
9.3x74R (286 at 2400) 8.25 34.3 16.6
.370 Sako Mag. (286 at 2550) 8.5 35.2 16.3
.375 Win. (220 at 2200) 7.5 17.1 12.1
.375 Ruger (270 at 2840) 9.0 41.3 17.2
.375 H&H Mag. (235 at 2700) 9.0 29.5 14.5
.375 H&H Mag. (270 at 2690) 9.0 36.1 16.1
.375 H&H Mag. (300 at 2530) 9.0 37.3 16.3
.375 Dakota (300 at 2600) 8.5 44.5 18.4
.375 Wby. Mag. (300 at 2700) 10.0 47.3 17.5
.375 Ultra Mag (300 at 2800) 8.75 53.2 n/a
.376 Steyr (270 at 2580) 8.0 39.0 n/a
.378 Wby. Mag. (300 at 2900) 10.25 71.1 n/a
.38-40 Win. (180 at 1100) 7.5 3.1 5.2
.38-55 Win. (220 at 1650) 7.5 10.1 9.3
.38-55 Win. (255 at 1415) 7.0 9.5 n/a
.450/.400-3" (400 at 2150) 9.0 51.0 n/a
.404 Jeffery (400 at 2170) 10.25 41.0 16.1
.405 Win. (300 at 2200) 8.0 30.6 15.7
.416 Taylor (400 at 2350) 10.0 47.8 17.5
.416 Rem. Mag. (400 at 2400) 10.0 52.9 18.5
.416 Rigby (400 at 2400) 10.0 58.1 19.3
.416 Dakota (400 at 2500) 10.0 59.2 19.5
.416 Wby. Mag. (400 at 2700) 10.25 83.0 22.8
.44-40 Win. (200 at 1200) 7.0 3.4 n/a
.44 Rem. Mag. (240 at 1760) 7.5 11.2 9.8
.44 Rem. Mag. (275 at 1580) 7.5 11.4 9.9
.444 Marlin (240 at 2400) 7.5 23.3 14.2
.444 Marlin (265 at 2200) 8.5 22.1 12.9
.45 Colt (255 at 1100) 8.0 4.0 5.6
.45 Colt +P (250 at 1500) 6.5 11.1 10.5
.45-70 (300 at 1800) 7.0 23.9 14.8
.45-70 (350 at 1900) 7.0 37.9 18.7
.45-70 (405 at 1330) 7.5 18.7 12.7
.450 Marlin (350 at 2000) 7.0 37.2 18.5
.450 Marlin (350 at 2100) 8.5 33.6 16.0
.45-120 Sharps (405 at 1850) 9.0 33.9 n/a
.450 N.E. (465 at 2150) 11.0 55.5 18.0
.458 Win. Mag. (400 at 2050) 9.0 41.7 17.3
.458 Win. Mag. (500 at 2100) 9.0 62.3 21.1
.458 Lott (500 at 2300) 10.0 70.4 21.3
.460 Wby. Mag. (500 at 2600) 11.25 99.6 n/a
.500/.465 N.E. (480 at 2150) 11.0 60.7 n/a
.470 N.E. (500 at 2150) 11.0 69.3 20.1
.470 Mbogo (500 at 2509) 11.0 83.5 22.1
.480 Ruger (325 at 1450) 6.25 16.4 13.0
.500 N.E. (570 at 2150) 12.0 74.5 n/a
.50 BMG (647 at 2710) 30.0 70.0 12.3
.577 N.E. (750 at 2050) 12.0 127.5 n/a
.600 N.E. (900 at 1950) 12.0 154.0 28.8
 

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My beloved 500 Jeff, 570 gr @ 2350 don't even make the list!
 

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Felt recoil is hard to define just from a list of calibers.

Proper rifle fit and balance go a long way in making a gun comfortable to shoot or not.

I had a Remington model 700 classic in 375 H&H and it was a terrible experience shooting this rifle, I have two 375 H&H rifles both ZKK 602 classic stocks, one semi custom the other original, the original has more felt recoil.

When you get into big bores fit and balance as well as correct weight are very important.

As for high speed high pressure cartridges(eg. Weatherby), well the sharp recoil due to case design and high pressure levels just plain make them uncomfortable to shoot for the average guy.

Stick to calibers you are comfortable with and ensure proper gun fit and balance and it will be happy hunting from there.
 

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if you go to handloads.com, they have a recoil calculator that will give you a calculated value. Be sure to use an accurate gun weight, and they even have a side by side comparison using two different rifles to compare. You can add or lessen weights to see how much difference they would make. Swift bullets also gives representative recoil values on their web site for their factory ammo. Of course, keep in mind these are 'theoretical' computations, and perceived recoil by the shooter is what really matters. I can tell you this though, recoil is not your friend and never will be. David Tubb, who is a well known long ranch champion competition shooter has said that he would always shoot better if a rifle generated no recoil, and I think that is true of all shooters. The 'macho' attitude of some shooters who think carrying a hard kicking rifle shows their expertise, doesn't impress anyone. As we say in the United States Marine Corps rifleman's creed, "It is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count." The same is true in hunting, and maybe to add that in hunting, only good hits count. A big gun doesn't impress anyone, but good shooting is always noticed and is impressive. Just ask any PH. That said, obviously, some rare situations call for a large gun, but even then still, it is useless if you can not hit with it.
 

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How is a .450/400 3" compared to 9,3x62 or 9,3x74R? Any experiences?
 

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The question is one which can and cannot be answered in simple terms, and you will find everything you need to know in answers already posted but basically it comes down to this:
  1. The more powerful the round is, the heavier the recoil. This is pure physics, no mysteries.
  2. A faster load in a given calibre will tend to generate sharper recoil (snap vs shove). Again pure physics.
  3. Felt recoil for a given load is dependent on rifle weight, stock design and braked/unbraked. (For this reason 300 WM's have a rep for severe recoil)
  4. All .416's belt like beasts. - no exceptions.
  5. 9.3 x 62 is like a milder version of a .375H&H, but felt recoil may be equal as 9.3's are generally on shorter, lighter platforms.
  6. 9.3 x 62 and 9.3 x 74 are ballistically identical.
  7. Doubles tend to belt less because they are on average quite a bit heavier; however design and fit make a difference.
  8. If you are after a good all-rounder that doesn't belt too badly then look at a .338 Wm, .358 Norma or 9.3 x 62. (The new Sako 9.3 is also very nice)
  9. If looking for a relatively mild big game rifle then look at .458 WM or a .450 or .470 double
  10. Could be I overlooked a few Q's but I think that sums it up.
 

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I've only shot a couple on that list, but I find that the bullet weight has significant affect on the recoil, even in the same cartridge. A light-for-caliber bullet seems to me to recoil considerably less than a heavy-for-caliber bullet. Examples: the recoil of a 200 grain bullet in a 338 win Mag is about the same as a 180 grain bullet in a 300 Win Mag. A 250 grain bullet in a 375 H&H is about the same as a 250 grain 338 win Mag. So my conclusion is that for the various cartridges on your list, there will be considerable variation depending on the bullet weight selected.
 

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100%!
Also some reputed "hard hitters" are actually quite mild in a given rifle because they are built on magnum actions using magnum barrel profiles. For example felt recoil of a .338 WM in a Ruger M77 is about the same as 30-06 - but the same calibre in a lightweight rifle (see some of the European rifles) is pretty much unusable . One shot and you sell it!
 

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One factor that I think is over looked is stock material. Now this is a relative new thing so to speak. The crappy plastic stock on my Rem700 375H&H reduces the felt recoil quite a bit. So much so that it kicks way less then the CZ550 I had in 375H&H although it is 2 pound lighter.
 

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Hi everyone,

From your experience in general, How would you grade from 0 to 10 and giving 10 to 470, the recoil of:

300 Win Mag
9,3x62
375 H&H
416 Rig
450/400
470

300 Win Mag - Weatherby Vanguard plastic stock - 3-4
300 Win Mag - Browning A-bolt - 5-6
9.3x62 - CZ 550 FS - 3
375 H&H - Whitworth - 5
416 Rigby - CZ 550 - 7-8
416 Rigby - Ruger RSM - 9
458 Lott - CZ 550 - 6
458 Lott - Ruger RSM - 9.5

This is given 470 is a 10. Never shot one or the 450/400. All rifles I shoot sitting off the bench (club rules) so the big boomers tend to beat me up more than they would in off-hand shooting or typical hunting situation.

I would consider Mossberg 500 12g with 3" 1 oz slugs as a 6 or 7 (kicks and is loud), most .338WM as a 5-6, 7mm RM as a 4, 30-06 and 8x57 or similar as a 2-3 and 6.5x55 as a 1. 7x57 as a 1 to 1,5. .22LR say 0.2, .22 short as 0.1. ;)

So all the above is more my perceived/felt recoil. It is also just how I feel in general, from memory. At the range, when shooting some of these side-by-side, things become clearer as to their rating but it is also subjective. Some days I feel good, handling recoil and muzzle blast very well, some days not. Once shooting, one gets used to recoil as you shoot more, even on the same day, rifle may feel kicking less later on than during the initial shot. If you mess up somewhere along the lines with a rifle that kicks you, then any subsequent shots may feel hurting more ... so all these results may be easily skewed. Shooting lighter rifle after a big hitter also seems to make the lighter caliber feel even lighter than usual.

I also found the Ruger stocks the worst of all time, for me. I never got such unpleasant recoil as out of the two RSMs in 416 Rigby and 458 Lott. The 9.3 seems to be very soft and quiet and I always think it kicks less than 30-06. But I think when I shoot them one after the other, the 30-06 is even softer, hence leaving the 9.3 as a 3. Overall I find the plastic stock on the Vanguard soaking up a lot of recoil, making this 300 WM actually pleasant to shoot. With a good muzzle brake I swear it is like a .243, so around 2.
 

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Most people do not find the ruger stocks comfortable. i think the reason is fairly obvious just from looking at them.
i own a few, including a .338WM which is my "go-to". It belted pretty badly in its original form but is a lot better with a Pachmayr decelerator pad (which is how they should come). Still, its not a good stock design, especially for heavy kickers.
 

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I did have two Heym SR 20, one in .375 H & H, die other in 9,3x62. I'm convinced there was a difference in recoil, however, well, I can't remember it. In the bush I didn't feel any difference. Was to excited...
 

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I think my 30-06 belts me a lot more than my 375HH. More like a sharp jab than a push like the 375. Then again I'm comparing an 8 1/2 lb MRC 06 and 180g TSX to my 11 lb 375HH Win Safari Express and 235g TSX . Even the 350g TSX feels lighter. All three loads are about 2 to 2 1/2 g below max. Probably 2 1/2 lb makes a difference, too.
 

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One factor that I think is over looked is stock material. Now this is a relative new thing so to speak. The crappy plastic stock on my Rem700 375H&H reduces the felt recoil quite a bit. So much so that it kicks way less then the CZ550 I had in 375H&H although it is 2 pound lighter.
Interesting subject as always.
Interesting post from Rule .303, I don’t like crappy plastic stocks much. I don’t find Ruger factory stocks comfortable either. Boat paddle, varmint or timber sporter. I did have a Ruger .300wm with a Ramline stock and pachmyr pad I think. It seemed ok. Don’t know why I sold it. Wanted something different.
What do people think of Bell and Carlson stocks on big bores?
I don’t mind shooting my CZ550 in 375H&H but i think there is a Bell and Carlson stock that was fitted on an all weather version at some point, maybe it’s available aftermarket.
Mine is the American styled straight comb walnut.
 

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