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Discussion in '.375 & Up' started by matt85, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. matt85

    matt85 AH ENABLER AH Legend

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    yea, I don't recommend trying it with a large bore gun unless your pretty confident. the trick is to pull the rifle into your shoulder firmly with your right hand while only using the left as a base. but its rather unnerving to not hold onto the rifle with your left hand... :eek:

    ive been using this hold for years with smaller bore rifles and then with my 416 with great success (works VERY well with the 416).

    -matt
     

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    Lots of silhouette shooters shoot that style. I have myself when shooting small game in the head with my 270 at some distances. My 500 Jeffery is more of a snap shoot gun (like jump shooting elk in the black timber which I also have done a lot of with my 270), different style entirely for up close and rapidly moving game.
     

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    Hi Mat

    You probably don't use that hold with a heavy recioler with a scope on?

    Regards
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  4. ActionBob

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    Did you Matt? ;)
     

  5. matt85

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    on the 416 i havent had a problem with that hold but the scope is set pretty far forward. i dont know if the hold itself would make a difference aince your left hand doesnt really prevent the rifle from coming back.

    lol no Bob i havent tried that hold with your rifle, all the shooting has been done off sticks. :D

    -matt
     

  6. ActionBob

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    When I shoot the 505 off hand, I try to follow Matt's advice of pulling it hard into my shoulder, and having well cucked in with my cheek down firmly on the stock. Then actually push away with my left hand on the fore end. Never had a slap of my cheek bone nor a scope hit doing this. And never got a bruised shoulder. My favorite thing to be wearing is a Tag shirt with the bit of stitched in padding... But I actually prefer a T shirt to having multiple layers including a thick coat... Too much keeps the gun from fitting well and lets it slide around too much.

    I think danger of the hold you guys are discussing is if you don't get your head in the best place and have a firm cheek weld. I do think it is an ok hold and even a good one IF you be sure to have a strong cheek weld.... The problem is finding a good natural hold where the gun comes, safety clicks off, sights or scope lines up, stock is in your shoulder and you are on target fast and ready to fire.... when hunting at least.... To me it a bit of a waste to practice a hold that I will not use hunting. And it confuses me and then I screw up.

    Find what works for you on and off sticks and practice that until it becomes routine and then you are ready for a DG hunt.
     

  7. Royal27

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    It is the cheekbone slap I still deal with... Still don't know if it is a fir or form issue.
     

  8. ActionBob

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    Royal can you lay your cheek bone right down on the stock and see through your sighting system? I like really low mount scopes for this. I definitely find the RSM's more "lively" than that big CZ or my M70's with the nice cheek pieces in the stocks.

    You and Matt may just need to fly out with your Lott and we need to go blow through some ammo and whip you into shape!
     

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    Yes, but I wonder if I don't pull it up sometimes without realizing it, or if it isn't as good as I think? One of the things I learned at SAAM was having good cheek weld. If you look at any of my trophy pictures with my rifles you'll see a cheek pad on them to raise up the comb for the scope. Made a huge difference for me...

    As I'm thinking out loud though I don't have one on the Lott because I'm still shooting it open sight, but maybe I need to try it with one and see what happens.
     

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    Royal it sounds like you need to load up all parts and goodies you have including a scope and go out to your shooting place with enough time and tools to try things.... Maybe get someone to video you so you can critique yourself after the shot? In any case, you will figure it out buddy!
     
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    You're exactly right Bob. I just haven't had time yet. Will do that here in the next couple of weeks. Need to adjust the iron sights too as they are shooting low.

    Still funny now when I first shot the .375 I thought it was a cannon and now I get slapped in the face with a Lott and I think "that really isn't bad..." LOL
     
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  12. Fr8liner

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    Nitro Kiss from my Schmidt & Bender off the bench! See the piece of skin on the edge of the eyepiece....
    Don't care what you guys say, hold that sucker down, I saw blood before I saw dust

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    Ouch!!!
     

  14. matt85

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    with the hold weve been talking about, there is no cheek weld issue. you rest your cheek on the stock exactly the same as you do with a riflemans hold. the only difference is instead of tightly griping the front of the rifle with your left hand, you simply let the rifle sit on your hand with your elbow propped against your ribcage for support.

    note: if your scope is hitting you then its either not set far enough forward for you OR you need a different scope set up. each person is different and a scope set up for one person may or may not work for another person. on guns .500" and up id recommend either a forward mounted scope (scout style) or a red dot style sight (the 500 NE is the exception as the recoil is fairly mild compared to others).

    Royal, we really need to get together and see whats going on with your shooting. even the biggest and baddest shouldnt slap yer cheek.

    -matt
     
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  15. matt85

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    ouch!

    -matt
     

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    Agreed... And it has happened with other big rifles. It is definitely something with me, either that I'm doing, or a fit issue. And I don't know that I thnk it is a fit issue just because I'm pretty average in size...
     

  17. Fr8liner

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    I hope this is close enough to big bore,
    my 1926 - 9.3x62 with its new stock image.jpg
    Took it out for zeroing
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    The final two in the green ring at 40 yards with iron sites.
    Then decided to pick up the pace, but light was fading and the target wasn't as fast as I wanted, but will improve next time. Check it out...
     

  18. spike.t

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    nope matt will come and chastise you now, as i was for mentioning 9.3x62...........:E Nono::E Tap Foot:
     

  19. ActionBob

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    Love it! My cousins and I used to do that with car tires down the hill in the cow pasture with .22's when we were dangerous little kids! Had a blast and great practice... Our tires were rolling and bouncing over rocks much more like a whitetail running through the woods. Nowadays it is hard to find a spot to do it.
     

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