Best Red Dot/RMR for 458 Lott

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I have two Vortex Venom 3MOA red dots.
One on a Springfield Armory XDm-9, the other on a Benelli SBE2.
Shooting 3" turkey loads in a 7.5# shotgun is similar to a big bore rifle.

I find shooting both of them quite easy once zeroed.
The SBE is also used for breaking clays, and it's like cheating with the red dot.
Once you have practiced with it on a regular basis, it becomes natural.

The only thing is there is no auto-shutdown feature on the Vortex and it pisses me off.
If I were to replace them, I'd get the Trijicon RMR 3.5MOA because of the closer ranges.
I'm sure you have your preference on a brand, but I like Trijicon products.

That said, I will be going with a Swaro 1-8x24 with the 4A-IF reticle on my 416RM DG rifle.
My eye likes this reticle and it comes up naturally for me.
 

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Hi. Typo in my post. The Leupold CDS on my .458 Lott is programed for 500gr Barnes TSX not TTSX.
 

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A simple question to start off with. Have you actually looked through a Z6i or other similar scope? The Z6i has a daylight bright red dot at the center of the reticle. That red dot, the true 1x power, and large eye box provide a superb sight picture. The reticle plays no part in using the Z6i in snapshots and as I said the scope acts like the standard red dot just with the option of variable power for longer shots. I dislike the standard red dot moved forward as the value of looking through the sight winds up with a decrease field of view... at the forward position one has to aim through the smaller window to find the dot. It is better on rear bridge or at breach of doubles where I have mine. As for ring and dot... it isn't bad and as for “killing”.. the “donut of death” reticle design is well regarded. Your discussion is valid for conventional scopes and your points are well taken but I think this new generation of scopes work well.

As Im from Austria, you can bet i have looked through every Swarovski more then once - and as i run a gunshop, you can bet i looked through all good optical things on the market. The "small window" as you state it doesnt exist, if you focus on the target and not on your optics. As you aim completely wrong with a red dot, you dont see whats way better on a good RD.

As a former professional soldier and gun instructor there, i learned from different top trainers - if u use your sights wrong, it doesnt matter what u screw to your rifle. There is an easy trick for learning focus - tape up the front lens of your red dot. This will force you to use both eyes open and focus on your target. Try to master this first, then we talk again, whats better - you will look to it from a different angle.
 

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