Barnes TSX?

I load the 168 to a COAL of 3.24 as per the Barnes load data.
As others have pointed out, they work so well I honestly can’t see why anyone would use anything else.
 
Can you caliper her factory Barnes ammo for overall length? That might give me some idea how deep I should be seating 30-06. Thanks.
She shoots .308 Win which is shorter than .30-06. Her rifle has a tight chamber and is throated so there is only 0.010” of jump to the lands if that helps.

Using Barnes recommended COAL 3.240” should produce a very workable load.

Here is Barnes load data for .30-06:


I use their recommended COAL in a new rifle if I am in a hurry or want to use one load across multiple rifles. I have one single load that works in at least six different .308 Win rifles and is accurate and safe in all of them. If I am going for best possible precision, I load them 0.010” off the lands.

Barnes bullets use tangent ogives, so they are much less sensitive to jump distances than bullets with secant ogives. Their recommended starting point is 0.050” of jump. I have jumped them 0.100” with great results, they really are not picky.

One strong recommendation. Thoroughly clean the barrel before starting to use them for best accuracy. Barnes Copper Solvent is the strongest solvent I have found.

For a slower solvent, Hoppe’s Benchrest solvent, not the old Hoppe’s No. 9, is effective and can be left in to soak for hours or even overnight to soften built up carbon plus copper.

Ask questions if you need help, I have been using the Barnes since 2011, so fifteen years and a lot of animals at this point. The TTSX is my go to bullet.
 
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One strong recommendation. Thoroughly clean the barrel before starting to use them for best accuracy. Barnes Copper Solvent is the strongest solvent I have found.

For a slower solvent, Hoppe’s Benchrest solvent, not the old Hoppe’s No. 9, is effective and can be left in to soak for hours or even overnight to soften built up carbon plus copper.

I agree that cleaning the bbl before shooting copper mono bullets is a good idea. I have also found that they can foul the bbl of a rifle more than some more traditional bullets may in some cases. But, I would respectfully suggest that you NOT clean with a strong copper solvent 1st. I am an old benchrest shooter and have chased many techniques for improving over all precision and accuracy of my rifles for target shooting and hunting. Cold bore shots with hunting rifles are critical. I have learned a cleaning technique that had worked for me in most rifles which avoids the use of copper solvents. Here is how I do it:

  • Swab the bore with a patch wetted with carbon solvent such as Bore Tech to clean out powder fouling and other debris.
  • Now wet a patch with a few drops of KG-2 bore polish and work it down the bore with reciprocating strokes using 3-6 strokes for the first 6 inches and going deeper by about 6 inches after every 3-6 strokes. This is a very mild abrasive and does not hurt the bore. Just don't go crazy with it. One patch and a few dozen strokes is enough. You will feel the strokes get easier after 2-3 strokes as you work your way down the bore.
  • The goal is not to remove all the copper fouling. You want to remove it from the surface and leave it in the pores of the metal. The result is a very smooth burnished surface with all the potholes of the metal bore filled in with copper.
  • After polishing use 2-3 patches again wetted with carbon solvent only.
  • Follow with 2-3 dry patches and finish with a rust preventative such as Kroil for storage.
  • This technique will generate a cold bore shot placement that is closer to the warm bore shot. Prior to hunting swab bore with dry patch to remove any oil and shoot one shot to foul it just a little.
  • This process does not take more than 5 min and works. I clean after every range session or at the end of a hunt. Guns that have not been cleaned in a long time will take more work.
Example: I purchased a used 375HH a few years ago that was horribly fouled even down near the muzzle. It struggled to print 2-3" grps at 100y. After cleaning a few times using my technique and spending more time polishing the last 8" of the bbl it now shoots 1-1.5" grps with Barnes TSX ammo.
 
Great bullets my choice Montana to Africa
2 different PH’s in Africa insisted I bring 300 grain TSX for buffalo - killed 3 cleanly
TSX is best choice out to 300 yards -no tip
TTSX 300 to 500 yards - tipped
LRX over 500 yards- tipped long range elongated design.
They open upon impact and spinning petals cut while shank retains shape and drives deep-
I clean with bore tech eliminator with non brass jag and nylon brush until no blue copper residue . I don’t believe you need to use harsh nasty cleaners.
 
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