9.3x74R vs .375 Flanged Magnum

Discussion in 'Double Rifles' started by Hunter4752001, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Hunter4752001

    Hunter4752001 AH Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2018
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    149
    Location:
    Australia
    Some years ago I bought a Baikal 9.3x74R O/U. It's somewhat agricultural but has given me a taste for doubles and for the calibre. What I want to do is upgrade to a better quality rifle in SxS with ejectors.
    From a paper ballistics point of view, the 9.3x73R and the .375 Flanged Magnum are very similar. Although I haven't seen much info on heavy for calibre projectiles. Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated.

    For me one issue is the availability of ammunition and components.

    In my country I know I can reasonably easily get 9.3x74R cases, but haven't seen .375 Flanged Magnum around (until now I haven't been looking). .375 projectiles are much more widely available and in a greater variety of weights and construction.

    What I don't know is how easily available factory ammo would be in Africa for each of these.
     

  2. Red Leg

    Red Leg AH ENABLER LIFETIME BRONZE BENEFACTOR AH Legend

    Joined:
    May 19, 2009
    Messages:
    4,423
    Video/Photo:
    242
    Likes Received:
    9,566
    Location:
    Texas Hill Country
    Member of:
    SCI DSC life memberships / NRA Patron Life
    Hunted:
    Mexico, Namibia, RSA, Germany, Austria, Argentina, Canada, Mozambique, Spain, US (15 states)
    Realistically, there is little to chose between them with respect to actual performance on game. However, the .375 flanged is pretty much universally legal for DG in Africa - not so the 9.3. Factory loaded .375 flanged is relatively hard to find. In this country, Nosler loads it's 300 gr Partition in it, and it is currently available for about $8.00 US a round through places like Midway Arms. It would be very hard to find in the RSA. The 9.3x74R is a much more common caliber, with a large European following.

    If you reload, the flanged .375 is a great option - particularly in a double where you likely will have to come up with a load that regulates in your new rifle. As you note, lots of bullet options out there. Unfortunately, .375 Flanged rifles are almost as scarce as the ammunition for them - though perhaps that is not the case down under?
     

  3. wesheltonj

    wesheltonj AH Elite

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2015
    Messages:
    1,945
    Video/Photo:
    15
    Likes Received:
    1,701
    Location:
    South Texas
    Member of:
    Benefactor-Life NRA, DSC, SCI
    Hunted:
    USA, RSA
    Norma does sell 375 flanged, but it’s not cheap.
     

  4. bruce moulds

    bruce moulds AH Elite

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2018
    Messages:
    1,281
    Likes Received:
    1,140
    hunter,
    you can find 9.3 bullets in oz - you just have to look harder.
    brownells is one source if you are prepared to wait.
    swift and barnes are to be found as is woodleigh and hornady and speer and norma if you ask a dealer to order for you.
    the 286 swift would be a good all round bullet and one that might be likely to regulate in a double, as long as it was not set up for lighter bullets.
    although the 9.3 x 74 is a little less powerful than the 375 flanged, use of good bullets in the 9.3 can narrow the gap.
    bruce.
     

  5. AZDAVE

    AZDAVE AH Elite

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2013
    Messages:
    1,468
    Video/Photo:
    144
    Likes Received:
    1,751
    Hunted:
    South Africa, Alaska,lower 48
    They are almost a ballistic twins. factory loads in the 375 are 300gr at 2400fps, and the 9.3 is 286gr at 2380fps. My 9.3 double I have a 300gr Swift aframe load that is super accurate in my rifle. It is 2370fps at the muzzle. I have owned 4 different 9.3's and handled 50-60 others. the 375 Flanged I have only ever seen in person 3 of them and never had a opportunity to shot one. Both of these rounds will hunt any of the plains game and depending on country legal for dangerous game in the 9.3. The 375 meets the letter of the law in min of 375 for dangerous game hunts. Both should only be used on dangerous game by a very patient hunter that will wait for a good shot to the vitals and be a competent enough shot to make the shot under pressure. I would also make sure you and your PH are in agreement on you using either one on DG.

    Ammo and brass are much easier to find for the 9.3's.
     

  6. bruce moulds

    bruce moulds AH Elite

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2018
    Messages:
    1,281
    Likes Received:
    1,140
    dave, that 300 gn load sounds like a good one.
    i can vouch for that bullet at 2400 fps on 600+ kg game.
    it handles that game so well i would not hesitate to use it on somewhat heavier targets.
    bruce.
     

  7. AZDAVE

    AZDAVE AH Elite

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2013
    Messages:
    1,468
    Video/Photo:
    144
    Likes Received:
    1,751
    Hunted:
    South Africa, Alaska,lower 48
    @bruce moulds It is very effective, I have shot everything from Klipspringer to cape Eland with my 9.3 and nothing has required more than one shot.
     

  8. Moosemind

    Moosemind AH Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2017
    Messages:
    78
    Video/Photo:
    7
    Likes Received:
    87
    Location:
    Kodiak Alaska
    Hunted:
    Alaska
    I love my little Borovnik 9.3x74R. Handles like a shotgun and kicks like a sissy. 20180621_211336.jpeg
     

  9. Kevin Peacocke

    Kevin Peacocke AH Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2018
    Messages:
    49
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    50
    Location:
    Harare Zimbabwe
    Member of:
    Cleveland Gun Club
    Hunted:
    Zimbabwe, SouthAfrica
    I have a Verney Carron O/U double 375 Flanged Magnum. Looking for Norma PH ammo for it, any idea where this can be bought in South Africa?
     

  10. Foxi

    Foxi AH Elite

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    1,355
    Video/Photo:
    154
    Likes Received:
    2,099
    Location:
    Germany
    Hunted:
    Canada, USA,Austria,Turkey,Tschech Rep.,Poland,Hungary,Serbia,Denmark,Namibia and England(England is wonderful) Romania,Luangwa-,Gwayi- + Save River.Horseback-tours in South Africa and Botswana.
    (y)
    ever used ?
    a friend,former guide in Yukon Territory, has taken a double in 9.3 x74 R when he was backup for American bowhunters on Grizzly bear.
     

  11. Bushpig4Ever

    Bushpig4Ever AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2017
    Messages:
    300
    Video/Photo:
    38
    Likes Received:
    468
    Location:
    South Africa
    Member of:
    Custodians
    Hunted:
    Germany, Slovenia, Sardinia, England, Namibia, Zimbabwe, South Africa
  12. Major Khan

    Major Khan AH Fanatic

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2019
    Messages:
    876
    Video/Photo:
    70
    Likes Received:
    1,657
    Both are extremely efficient calibres . My clients ( usually continental European clients ) used to use the 9.3 × 74 Rimmed , to take forest Panthers up to 200 pounds weight in Nagpur. In Nagpur , a client shikaree could not legally use anything smaller than .375 Nitro Express for royal Bengal tigers and bisons . However , this law did not exist in other states of India , and the 9.3 × 74 Rimmed was very effective on royal Bengal tigers . It also worked reasonably well on the largest of gaurs , although shot placement had to be extremely critical . Back in those days , you could get them in combination guns( 1 rifle barrel and one shot gun barrel ) , side by side double barreled rifles and over under double barreled rifles .
    Regarding the .375 Holland & Holland magnum ( flanged ) , the British company Kynamco lists factory loaded ammunition on their web site . You could perhaps purchase some and keep the cartridge cases to recycle once you fired them off ?
    .375 bore bullets , as you say , are more widely available . Also , as Red Leg mentions , you could legally hunt with it , through out most ( if not all ) parts of Africa. It is also slightly more powerful than the 9.3 × 74 Rimmed , but only just .
     

Share This Page

 
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice