8x64 Brenneke....Who has one ?

[analog_peninsula]

You guys will never believe what I just found:

Sellier & Bellot 8x64mm S Ammo 196gr SPCE 20 Rounds [FC-8590690331956]

Soft point cutting edge (SPCE) 196 grain bullets. Accurate, reliable performance for 8x64mm S rifles.

www.cheaperthandirt.com

 

[yumastepside]

Thanks to all for their input in this, because of this thread I've discovered the 8mm Mazon.
I'm thinking this is exactly what I am looking for....non belted, fits '98 action, cases available from Bertram Brass, reamer from JGS and dies from RCBS.....if they kept the specs...

Roger

 

[mooze]

If you are considering an 8 MM Mazon, why not, for very similar if not better powder volume consider a 8 mm x 375 Ruger? You could rebarrel any 300 WINmag or 375 Ruger , Pacific Tools and Gauge will make you a reamer.

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

Thanks to all for their input in this, because of this thread I've discovered the 8mm Mazon.
I'm thinking this is exactly what I am looking for....non belted, fits '98 action, cases available from Bertram Brass, reamer from JGS and dies from RCBS.....if they kept the specs...

Roger

I looked at that after I read your post, looks like an interesting cartridge…..now I’m eyeing off my Colombian carbine that needs restoring….
Gumpy

 

[yumastepside]

I've had correspondence with the owner/designer of the 8mm Mazon, Alvaro Mazon, and he's looking into sending his reamer to me on loan....mainly checking legalities of sending a reamer from Spain to Australia, and back.....looks promising...

Roger

 

[yumastepside]

I now have the reamer and go / no go gauges for the 8mm Mazon, ( Thanks Alvaro ) so first thing after Chrissy we'll see what we can do with it.
....wrong spelling in the first pic...

The above pic is L-R ...338 WM, 9.3X64B case, 8mm Mazon dummy I made and my original 8-06.....

Roger

 

[BlueFlyer]

Roger, you are using a Mauser 98 for this project?
Which Mauser 98, just curious!

 

[yumastepside]

VZ24

Roger

 

[BlueFlyer]

VZ24

Nice, what about barrel & stock?

 

[yumastepside]

I'll rechamber the original barrel first, but it I think it might be a bit light. At the moment it's in a Butler Creek synthetic stock but I also have a Slee xxx walnut for it that I bought from Geoff back in the 80's.

Roger

 

[Mahatta2]

Hey I have the ZG47 in 8x64 and 9.3x62 ..Love them both.. the 8 is for bears and elk and the 9.3 is for Moose.. My plan was to take the 8x64 to Africa this year as my plains game rifle.. I decided to just use 375 for everything instead..

 

[Kevin375]

The 8x64 S has never been a popular caliber in my country and I would say the most "common" rifles in this caliber are old military Mauser rifles that were reamed to accept this cartridge, as well as the 8x60 S, because the original 8x57 JS was forbiden for hunting in my country from 1939 untill 2013. Very few modern rifles offer, or have offered, this caliber. I spoke with 2 hunters who had Blaser R93 in this caliber, but that's all and now this caliber is discontinued by Blaser. One of these hunters used Nosler partition 200 gr pushed at 800 m/s (2624 f/s) and he loved it.
I think Heym also offered it in the SR30, but I have never seen one in real.

 

[BlueFlyer]

Slee xxx walnut

Think I would wait to confirm the original barrel is a shooter before fitting the Slee stock.
Is the barrel a 318 or a 323?

 

[yumastepside]

323....The Slee stock is already fitted to the lighter barrel....depending on the weather as to which stock I use...

Roger

 

[Borderer]

Do you think that the 8x64s offers a reasonable step up from a 30-06? A 220gr bullet is 16% faster, but would it be a better option for heavier plains game, I.e. zebra etc?

 

[BlueFlyer]

Do you think that the 8x64s offers a reasonable step up from a 30-06? A 220gr bullet is 16% faster, but would it be a better option for heavier plains game, I.e. zebra etc?

Absolutely.

 

[PerH]

Produkte

www.brenneke-ammunition.de

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I've been thinking about barrelling one of my '98 Mausers to 8x64 and was curious to know who has one and your thoughts on it...I'm think of shots out to around the 300yd mark or so....

Roger

@yumastepside
Roger
There's heaps of info on the forum about the 8x64. From memory it was the late Bruce Moulds favourite rifle..
Our Nick Harvey loved the cartridge as well.
You have 3 choices in the same power range. The 325WSM, 8X64 and 8mm REM mag.
Why not just buy a 325WSM that way if you can't find brass just neck up some 300wsm and your fine.
8x64 cases are hard to find in Australia and when you can they ain't cheap. You can make 8mm REM mags out of cheap 375 brass as well.
A mate has a BLR in 325 he uses in camel and swears by it.
Bob

 

[yumastepside]

Try and keep up Bob, I'm just about ready to re-cut my 8-06 chamber to 8mm Mazon with the reamer Alvaro sent me....you can join us anytime you like now!!!

 

[PerH]

The 8x64S can be made from 7x64 cases , as it is the mother case Brenneke started with , then necked it down to 7mm

And just after the ww2 Galas was working on his new design , but due to Soviet influence was not adopted since it had to be in Mosin ammo .

And the ZG 47 action which he developed

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