8x57 loads

[MS 9x56]

Has anyone tried CFE223 in the 8x57?

 

[BFaucett]

Has anyone tried CFE223 in the 8x57?

I've never tried it, but Hodgdon lists some CFE 223 load data for the 8x57. It looks promising.

Hodgdon Reloading Data Center – The Brand Thats True

hodgdonreloading.com

Cheers! Bob F.

 

[jruby]

In my opinion, the 8mm-06 (and the 8x60S) would be very close to the .318 Westley Richards. Especially if you handloaded the 8mm-06 and the 8x60S with the Woodleigh 8mm 250 gr RN bullet. And the 8x57JS, loaded with the Woodleigh 8mm 250 gr RN, wouldn't be too far behind. However, I think the easiest and closest substitute / approximation for the .318 W-R would be the .338-06 (or a .338 Win Mag handloaded down a little) given the ready availability of a variety of .338" 250 gr bullets.

8x57JS .323" bullet diameter
8x60S .323"
8mm-06 .323"
.318 W-R .330"
.333 Jeffery .333"
.338-06 .338"
(Just for reference.)

Just my musings and ramblings... Cheers! Bob F.


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my Ruger M77 Mk II .338 Win Mag

I had a handload worked up with the .338" Woodleigh 250 gr RN at 2500 fps that I planned to take to South Africa back in 2008. I cancelled the trip in 2007 due to concerns about the economy and my job back then (the "Great Recession"). That would have been my fourth trip to South Africa. Sadly, I never made it back to Africa. The handload approximated the Kynoch 250 gr load in the .318 Westley Richards (2400 fps) and the .333 Jeffery (2500 fps). I think it would have been a great load for the Bushveld. The reduced recoil, compared to factory .338 Win Mag 250 gr loads, was also nice.

From Google AI: "The Great Recession was a severe global economic downturn, particularly in the U.S., lasting from December 2007 to June 2009, caused by the bursting of the U.S. housing bubble and a global financial crisis."

I have a 338-06 and think it is a great round. I have rarely had the need to shoot anything over 225s with it. I am doubtful and could be wrong about an 8x57 or 8mm-06 stabilizing 250g bullet. Thanks for the reply
As a side note the 338-06 has kept me from pursuing a 8mm-06. Had a 8mm-06AI but a friend needed it more. Only shot 198g hornadys and it was a tack driver.

 

[BFaucett]

Believe it or not my rifle shoots the Sellier & Bellot 196 grain better groups than my handloads, so I use those with the SPCE bullet.

I have found this to be a common occurrence in all my 8x57's. This load is not only very accurate, but it is loaded to the 8x57's true potential the federal, rem, winchester 170gr loads which come in around 2100-2350 fps.

Between 22-24 inch barrels 2550-2600 is the norm.

I've never hunted with it but I did chronograph some of the Sellier & Bellot 196 gr SPCE 8x57 loads back in 2004 when I was preparing for my trip to South Africa back in 2005. I only chronographed 6 shots instead of my usual 10 but I was impressed by the load. I bet it would make a good load for Texas piggies.

rifle: Remington Model 700 Classic 8x57JS

I purchased a couple of fresh boxes a couple of months ago. I need to get out to the rifle range and chronograph them again.

Cheers! Bob F.

 

[Flbt]

Believe it or not my rifle shoots the Sellier & Bellot 196 grain better groups than my handloads, so I use those with the SPCE bullet.

have a buddy that uses the s&b load now
He got to where he could not find the Remington cor lock round nose that he had been using for years.
That’s a problem when you buy 2 cases off ammo and don’t shoot much
What you been using might not be there when you go to buy again

 

[MS 9x56]

I've never hunted with it but I did chronograph some of the Sellier & Bellot 196 gr SPCE 8x57 loads back in 2004 when I was preparing for my trip to South Africa back in 2005. I only chronographed 6 shots instead of my usual 10 but I was impressed by the load. I bet it would make a good load for Texas piggies.

rifle: Remington Model 700 Classic 8x57JS


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I purchased a couple of fresh boxes a couple of months ago. I need to get out to the rifle range and chronograph them again.

Cheers! Bob F.

Thank for the information. I had not chrono’d them but that is pretty close to what the box lists.

 

[mooze]

I don’t know. Good chance your seating depths will be different. I measure for seating depth’s with a Hornady Gauge. As for powder charges, start a couple of grains lower and work it up looking for pressure signs. The 160gr TTSX is a really good bullet for the 8x57.

I am shooting the 160 gr TTSX out of a sporterized K98, made in 1940 , KYF, Winchester or Lapua Brass, seat about 2 mm from lands. Hodgkon says 54 gr max for CFE 223, but keep in mind this is for <48 k CUP, or for old M 96. Modern guns can do 58 k PSI.
I get 2940 fps with good precision.

alt: 220 Woldleigh with CFE 2230, at 2450 fps