458 Win & 404 Grain Shock Hammer

[jwp475]

404 grain Shock Hammer is now being served
COAL 3.383" 2523 FPs

 

[John Wasmuth]

It’ll take about five minutes for twenty people to tell you the .458 sux and it can’t kill anything. On my end, I think it’s grand. But that’s just me….. tally hooooo……

 

[Hunter-Habib]

404 grain Shock Hammer is now being served
COAL 3.383" 2523 FPs

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What’s the difference between the Shock Hammer and the Claw Hammer ? I wish they made these in 450Gr weight. Would have a sectional density that agrees with me more.

 

[jwp475]

What’s the difference between the Shock Hammer and the Claw Hammer ? I wish they made these in 450Gr weight. Would have a sectional density that agrees with me more.

There are several factors that mean more than SD as to penetration
These 404 grain Shock Hammers penetrate very well in testing.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

There are several factors that mean more than SD as to penetration
These 404 grain Shock Hammers penetrate very well in testing.

Would you happen to know the difference between Hammer brand’s Claw Hammer and Shock Hammer bullets? I always get confused.

 

[jwp475]

I believe the Claw Hammer is their version of a solid

 

[AZDAVE]

@jwp475 would you mind sharing your load data via a PM?

 

[jwp475]

@jwp475 would you mind sharing your load data via a PM?

Norma cases, federal 215 primers, 85 grains of AA2230 @ COAL of 3.3830" which is as long as I can get in the magazine. This load is heavily compressed and very likely to be over the SAAMA MAP pressure of 62,000 PSI.

 

[Rosch]

Yes, 450 Grain Bullets for the 458 Winni is that what makes me real hot for this cartridge. Easy brass, easy reloading and equipment, normal sized action, easy recoil, handable rIfle weight and so on. In combination with 350 grainers for plainsgame, the good old .458 is versatile like rubber boots in great britain.
The biggest enemy of that .458 was the introduction with 500 grainers trying to copy or even beat the 450NE and 470 NE.
For that 500 grain bullets (leadfree bullets even need more space) the 458 Win shell is in my opinion toooo short.
I think thats why the Lott came up and did it right !!