.45 Super

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  1. BC.Pat

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    the Danish folks use them as polar bear protection with success on Greenland.
    It might be more cost effective to buy as used one for your trip & pass it on afterward. Kind of a proven platform for what you after.
    Just my 2 cents.
    Good Luck
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  2. colorado

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    I've been shooting 45 Super in my Springfield V16 Long Slide (which was made for it) since about 2000. I've settled on the Buffalo Bore 255 hardcast at 1100 fps for my back country carry load. I practice using 230g standard fare hardball. It digests both with ease, shoots them both very accurately.

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  3. Spooksar

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    Chris Ammo Guide has Power Pistol at 10.5 gr with a 230 grain bullet for 1200 FPS I just got some 45 Super brass and I’m waiting for springs and guide rod from Brownells
     

  4. ChrisG

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    Sounds good! Power Pistol is THE powder for .45 super. You'll have a blast with it and it packs a serious punch for a minimal investment and work
     

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    Finally got my 5.75" EFK Fire Dragon ported barrel... I can now load the .45 super up to almost 800 ft-lbs without beating the frame up! Pretty psyched. This gun will easily match the 10mm energy-wise but does so with heavier bullets. Current load is a hard cast 200 grain RNFP at 1,250 fps. Working my way up to 1,300fps. 20190528_214035.jpg 20190528_214125.jpg
     
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  6. colorado

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    Nice gun! I get just over 1100 fps with the Buffalo Bore factory 45 Super 255g hardcast out of the 6" barrel of my Springfield V16 Longslide
     

  7. ChrisG

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    That v16 is a sweet pistol. They are hard to find these days.
     

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    ChrisG...........sure enjoyed your posts. You are right, on many forums, a guy with little experience but vast wisdom and knowledge will correct you aggressively. I carried a 45 ACP in grizzly country two years ago....because it was what I had. Always felt a little undergunned............250 grains at 1000 fps is what I really wanted. Not 230 grains at 850, which is what I had. A very useful upgrade here. I am going to get one! ......FWB
     
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  9. ChrisG

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    If you already have a strong .45 it is usually just as simple as ensuring to have a fully supported chamber and swapping the recoil spring. If you had a glock .45 there are so many aftermarket parts available that a glock 41 would be a real easy mod. But any modern pistol should take the bolt thrust of a .45 super. The strongest semis are the ones that can be converted to .460 Rowland so guns like the XD, Glock, 1911 and apparently the h&k USP is plenty overbuilt enough to handle a few hundred super rounds stock.
     

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    Thnx............have 1911...and 2000 rounds 45 ACP..........FWB
     

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    That is some first class AH enabling gents! Well done!
     

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    I converted my Glock 21 to Super. I added a heavier spring and stainless guide rod. Also changed the barrel to a 6" fully supported Storm Lake. So far, I've only shot +P loads through it, but it's noticeably more accurate and easier to control with this set up. It shoots as accurately as an Ed Brown 1911 I used to own. Hard to believe, but true.
     
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  13. ChrisG

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    That's the great thing about .45 super! Your gun will still fire .45 auto just fine as practice ammo and when you need to howitzer a bear (yes I did just use howitzer as a verb), you load up some super rounds. You can actually get a mold made for a boat tail 300 grain bullet to fit in the case, and push those out of it at 950 fps to carry when you need something to punch something stem to stern
     
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    I think this is a GREAT caliber conversion for .45ACP owners. The fact you can shoot .45ACP ammo also is HUGE. When I'm not carrying a rifle in the Colorado mountains, I carry my Glock Model 40 10mm with a six inch barrel and 220gr. Buffalo Bore hardcasts. I don't hunt with it, but like your .45 Super, it is good protection against a black bear, mountain lion or even more likely, a two legged animal who might get really stupid. I like your choice here.
     

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    This is very interesting. I saw a V 16 Springfield sell at an auction for 650, I wish I had bid on it now. How does one convert a standard 1911 to 45 super(if its possible or feasible)
     

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    Heavier spring and a full length guide rod all I did to mine
     

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    Thanks I will look into that. Pardon my ignorance, but no barrel or chamber modification is necessary?
     

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    None I think I did a 22 lb spring to start with
     

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    Depends on the 1911. A fully supported chamber is necessary. The original style 1911 barrel was not fully supported. 10mmbarrel05.jpeg
    The one on the right is fully supported and could fire 45 super no problem. The one on the left is an original unramped barrel which is not fully supported. Firing a hot .45 super out of the barrel on the left could potentially result in a case head rupture and a ruined gun.
     
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    Do folks reckon the .45 SMC is worth going up to?
     

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