416 help

[375Fox]

Does the suppressor make the gun to long for hunting cape

Depends where you hunt. It’s not legal in all countries either. A buffalo hunt in an open area like the free state probably won’t matter much but if it’s thick brush in Limpopo and the outfitter gives a true tracking hunt it’s the last thing I’d want. A sling makes things difficult enough at times when it constantly hangs up. The answer to your question is generally yes.

 

[Neophyte]

Depends where you hunt. It’s not legal in all countries either. A buffalo hunt in an open area like the free state probably won’t matter much but if it’s thick brush in Limpopo and the outfitter gives a true tracking hunt it’s the last thing I’d want. A sling makes things difficult enough at times when it constantly hangs up. The answer to your question is generally yes.

I have a .338 Win Mag with a 26” barrel and a compensator added to that. Probably about 28” overall.

One of my big reasons for getting a .375 Ruger was because of the shorter, 20”, barrel. When you’re in the alders, or any brush really, the shorter barrel is a very welcome feature.

 

[375Fox]

I have a .338 Win Mag with a 26” barrel and a compensator added to that. Probably about 28” overall.

One of my big reasons for getting a .375 Ruger was because of the shorter, 20”, barrel. When you’re in the alders, or any brush really, the shorter barrel is a very welcome feature.

I didn’t know it until I carried rifle on a hunt but rifles with barrel band for sling are really helpful too. It lets the barrel stick out a lot shorter distance from your shoulder when it’s slung.

 

[Andrew62]

@Ryanelson I had the barrel of my .375H&H threaded. Now when I go to the range I use a muzzle brake, when I head out to hunt I take off the muzzle brake and put on a thread protector. Makes range time so much more pleasurable and I never feel recoil when shooting at an animal.

 

[Luvthunt]

@Ryanelson I had the barrel of my .375H&H threaded. Now when I go to the range I use a muzzle brake, when I head out to hunt I take off the muzzle brake and put on a thread protector. Makes range time so much more pleasurable and I never feel recoil when shooting at an animal.

Ditto, and thanks for the comment.I fully support your approach.

 

[Tokoloshe Safaris]

.404 J controlled feed properly weighted rifle, kick-eez recoil pad NECG sights. If scope wanted 1X4,6 or 8. .400grn.

Lol

 

[Hunter-Habib]

How about a Winchester Model 70 Safari Express in .416 Remington Magnum if you can still find one ?

 

[M70375!]

Don't let them talk you out of a brake, I have a very bad neck and must use brakes on my heavy rifles. I put one on a Kimber Caprivi 416 Rem and I absolutely love it, very pleasant to shoot, it shoots sub ½ moa , I have a Leupold 1x6 Patrol on it , the reticle has hold over marks and , lines up perfectly at 100, 200, and leaves me 2 ½ inches high at 300 yards. I also have a 375 H&H M 70, but I see no need for it anymore as the 416 has more punch and is extremely accurate out to any distance I care to shoot game at. I love using this rifle and will also be taking it to Canada for moose and using it on deer at home this fall, after using it on elephant in August this year. I also intend on helping a few coyotes die with enthusiasm this fall . I carry it with me on my morning walks and disintegrate some rocks just for the fun of it.

I bought two sets of Ear Pro electronic hearing protectors for my PH and crew, they were very appreciative and no one had any ill feelings about me using a brake and the Ear pros increased our ability to hear things. Even without a brake you should wear ear protection, our you may end up half deaf like me, I think a person is subjecting himself to unneccesarry abuse by not using one, and as time goes on I am sure there use will be more common. When scopes first started to show on the scene a
lot of guys down talked them for various reasons, but nowadays they are the norm. Just like power steering on vehicles, at first it was shunned but now you would be hard pressed to buy a new vehicle without it. Just takes time for people to accept change sometimes

 

[Neophyte]

I didn’t know it until I carried rifle on a hunt but rifles with barrel band for sling are really helpful too. It lets the barrel stick out a lot shorter distance from your shoulder when it’s slung.

It’s not when it’s slung that barrel length is a problem.

It’s when you are crawling through the alders after a wounded Yogi. If I can get the level of bullet performance I desire in a shorter barrel why would I not take advantage of that?

The Marines learned the advantage of the shorter barrel in house to house fighting. Hence it’s why they don’t carry the 20” barrel on their rifles anymore. It’s easier to use a shorter barrel in unconfined space than a longer barrel in confined space.

 

[BeeMaa]

It’s not when it’s slung that barrel length is a problem.

It’s when you are crawling through the alders after a wounded Yogi. If I can get the level of bullet performance I desire in a shorter barrel why would I not take advantage of that?

The Marines learned the advantage of the shorter barrel in house to house fighting. Hence it’s why they don’t carry the 20” barrel on their rifles anymore. It’s easier to use a shorter barrel in unconfined space than a longer barrel in confined space.

Want a shorter rifle but the advantages of a 24 inch barre...Blaser R8. They put the magazine on top of the trigger group. What this does is shorten a rifle by about four inches, provided all other things are equal. So you get 24" performance in a 20" package.

Gotta love those Germans.

 

[Neophyte]

Want a shorter rifle but the advantages of a 24 inch barre...Blaser R8. They put the magazine on top of the trigger group. What this does is shorten a rifle by about four inches, provided all other things are equal. So you get 24" performance in a 20" package.

Gotta love those Germans.

If only it was a controlled round feed.
I refuse to own a bolt gun that isn’t left hand CRF.

 

[BeeMaa]

If only it was a controlled round feed.
I refuse to own a bolt gun that isn’t left hand CRF.

You have questions, I have answers. And yes, it's still a push feed.

 

[Redhawk45]

No African big game hunts in my past, but one brown bear with 416 Tayor. I used a 350 grain Barnes X bullets at 2550 fps from 22 inch barrel. My 400 grain load was at 2150 fps. It was a boring hunt, one shot one bear at 210 yards. Neither my guide or any hunters in camp wanted to try an 8 pound .416 Taylor. I had no problem but don't plink with it for fun. If you get a bigger case rifle, sight it in from bench and then shoot it off hand or from sticks or any standing position. I used 1.75 Weaver steel tube scope because you won't be shooting things that need lots of magnification. Smaller fixed magnification scope is my choice. I have lots of .375s, from 376 Styer on up to 375 H&H. No problem with prone shooting or any other position. They are generally lighter too. Your guide will have a heavy rifle when you are after dangerous game and the 375s are more versitile.

 

[dlmac]

Rigby and Rem much more available in Africa (and many sage PHs keep a collection on-hand!) I didn't even bother giving Chatfield-Taylor rounds to PHs as I needed 'em more than they did. A brake is NOT required on most properly constructed 416s as it's not too much to handle. The Wby big bores need it! lol

Have both a 375-338 and 416 taylor with proper headstamps for both. Love the Taylors

 

[Beck]

Hard to beat a Sako Brown Bear in .416 Rigby. I also have a couple of .416 Rugers - Shot my first cape buffalo with a .416 Ruger African in Mozambique. My dad killed two cape buffalo in SA this year with a .416 Rigby Sako Brown Bear - All three Buffalo we very clean kills - use barnes TSX bullets

 

[curt672]

Been following this for a while and some opinions I agree with have come up. I really like the 416 Weatherby , as it can be loaded to 416 Rigby specs and not beat you up and be more than capable in the field. The muzzle break on the bench then take it off for the field is great, I have also purchased ear protection for all in the party to use if they are ok with it. Kinda covered all my bases. It shots great and if you care to , 350gr bullets can be used for plains game. let the raging continue.

 

[uplander01]

The new Weatherby safari rifles look pretty good to me…it’s not my thing but if it was I would not hesitate to use one of those is 416w. I used to shoot a couple Weatherby rifles…and I liked them. But in life, the safari rifles obsession takes you down many rabbit holes. Albeit a push feed is never IMO going to feel or sound like a slicked up crf action, but the older and more realistic I get about such matters, I just don’t think that matters much lol. As a traveling sportsman I think most of us could get away with using a $1000 Remington push feed clunker and never know the difference, animals would still hit the ground and you’d still be having a blast. For me personally the hunts are largely about special rifles to me, lots of hand-loading and practice, and maybe someday I’ll give my rifles to my step sons or my nieces husband who is a hunter.

Moral of the story, get yourself a weatherby in 416, handload or have someone else handload to the specs you want….i can tell you that a 350 grain load at about 2300 fps won’t be too bad to shoot and it will kill the hell out of stuff.

 

[Safari Dave]

There's a CZ 550 in .416 Rigby on GB now for $2800, and a couple of Rugers for a bit more.

 

[fourfive8]

June of 2026? Yikes! Well, whatever you get, get it soon and learn to shoot it accurately and reload it under stress. Take a shot off the sticks with muzzle brake operational without hearing protection. That will simulate a hunting shot, not a keyboard shot.

 

[Schüler Jumbo]

Good decision selecting a .416 caliber. All the .416’s have the power to take on dangerous game,
decent reach for plains game, and meet every country’s legal minimum for dangerous game. The Winchester M70 Safari chambered .416 Rem Mag is a standard in hunting camps.