Please check my specifications- Kreighoff classic big 5

Lancaster said:

Can you please get the recoil reducer…for me aha!

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Tex .416 said:

Why do you want a tip off mount for the Aimpoint? There are excellent mounts with quick release. To me that is a potential weak risk of failure point on a heavy recoiling rifle. I do not like them even on a 5.56.

Congratulations on the new rifle. How long is the estimated delivery time?

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This is one thing that I need to clarify what exactly the tip off mount is… all the Kreighoff doubles I have seen have the removable mounting plate on the rib. Presumably there are off the shelf interfaces below that plate?

SRvet said:

This is one thing that I need to clarify what exactly the tip off mount is… all the Kreighoff doubles I have seen have the removable mounting plate on the rib. Presumably there are off the shelf interfaces below that plate?

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Here is a Krieghoff video showing a short, low profile Picatinny base for the Big Five. Using the Pic rail opens up multiple very well reliable quick release options.

Tex .416 said:

Here is a Krieghoff video showing a short, low profile Picatinny base for the Big Five. Using the Pic rail opens up multiple very well reliable quick release options.

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Yes that might be a better option much as I hate the look of a picatinny rail. Many thanks

I recently asked Krieghoff about a Classic Big 5 in 450x3.25 NE and they confirmed it was possible but it would be a 2.5 to 3 year wait.

I highly recommend their factory Aimpoint ACRO mount, very low in the rib and can still see factory sights if it ever failed.

Also keeps a proper cheek weld where some of the higher mounted options don’t

SRvet said:

I have decided not to go for the recoil reducer… is that a mistake??

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This is personal. So, it is up to you.
Mercury recoil reducer or similar, changes the balance of rifle. But on the other hand, if you can not take recoil, then you will need it.
Whats the biggest caliber you shot?

If you go to Germany to be measured ask them to try both guns if they have samples. With recoil reducer and without. See how they handle.

jamitchbikes said:

I highly recommend their factory Aimpoint ACRO mount, very low in the rib and can still see factory sights if it ever failed.

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Does that clamp straight onto the dovetail under the mounting plate or is there a separate plate that interfaces between rib and aimpoint?

jamitchbikes said:

I highly recommend their factory Aimpoint ACRO mount, very low in the rib and can still see factory sights if it ever failed.

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That would be awesome if it clamps directly to the rib without needed an adapter plate. Another AimPoint option is the T2/H2, but again it would be important to know how it’s going to mount.

I’m not a fan of adapter plates.

So Krieghoff has a section of removable rib as shown on video above, you replace that with the dovetail adapter plate, which ACRO bolts direct. Very solid mount. You are essentially getting a 1/3 cowitness with the irons similar to an AR-15 setup. The adapter is sold directly from Krieghoff.

If going there I would ask to shoot with or without reducer. If rifle weighs less than 12# then personally I feel its 2x harder than 416 Rigby recoil. My 500 weighed 11#, different brand but recoil was not fun.

jamitchbikes said:

So Krieghoff has a section of removable rib as shown on video above, you replace that with the dovetail adapter plate, which ACRO bolts direct. Very solid mount. You are essentially getting a 1/3 cowitness with the irons similar to an AR-15 setup. The adapter is sold directly from Krieghoff.

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That is a very nice clean look. Leave it to the Germans.

SRvet said:

I’m going through the process of ordering a K gun and I’m intending to go with the following specifications:
.500 NE- standard engraving
24 inch barrels
PH ProCoating
Wood category 003
Express rifle sights with flip up night sight
Nitrate finish
Tip off mount for Aimpoint micro H2.
Steel Plate on Grip Cap
I have decided not to go for the recoil reducer… is that a mistake??
I will go to Germany to be measured and choose the stock blank. Are there any other things I should consider? Thanks in advance

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Respectfully, if I was you, I would get a cheaper flight to Germany, stay in a cheaper hotel, drink less German beer, and eat pea soup and tinned beef for a couple weeks after I got home AND UP THAT QUALITY OF WOOD. This is a beautiful rifle, and for many, a once in a life time rifle. Do yourself a favour and get the best wood you can. Future you will be glad you did!

SRvet said:

I’m going through the process of ordering a K gun and I’m intending to go with the following specifications:
.500 NE- standard engraving
24 inch barrels
PH ProCoating
Wood category 003
Express rifle sights with flip up night sight
Nitrate finish
Tip off mount for Aimpoint micro H2.
Steel Plate on Grip Cap
I have decided not to go for the recoil reducer… is that a mistake??
I will go to Germany to be measured and choose the stock blank. Are there any other things I should consider? Thanks in advance

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Keep in mind that you can have the rib grooved for a red dot instead of other mounting systems. Cleaner look for me. I'd get the recoil reducer but ask if it can be removed. Are you sure you want a .500?
It will be awesome to have a custom Double made. Keep us in the loop!

BC Tal said:

Respectfully, if I was you, I would get a cheaper flight to Germany, stay in a cheaper hotel, drink less German beer, and eat pea soup and tinned beef for a couple weeks after I got home AND UP THAT QUALITY OF WOOD. This is a beautiful rifle, and for many, a once in a life time rifle. Do yourself a favour and get the best wood you can. Future you will be glad you did!

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I know what you are saying and I may well increase the grade of wood once I have seen them. I have been trying to see what grade 3 and grade 4 look like and found these examples. To me they are very nice ly figured for a relatively low grade. Butt pad to the left is grade 3 and the other is grade 4

You asked to be kept updated so here goes…
I’m currently in Ulm having visited the Kreighoff factory yesterday and again today. I met with Lucas from sales and Ralph the stock maker, both of whom were hunters and really, really good people. The capabilities of the factory is simply astounding! Yesterday we started with standard stock dimensions, added a little length and shot the gun with a slave .470 Nitro action - no recoil reducer. Recoil was very comfortable but my shots hit consistently right. The stock fit was checked again and a little more cast factored in by taking more wood from the left side and adding it to the right side during final shaping. The blank was chosen and I really liked one of the grade 3 blanks that gave the contrasting bands that I like. I didn’t see anything I preferred in higher grades so grade 3 was chosen.
I spent the rest of yesterday in Ulm and went shooting at MSZU, a local shooting facility this morning. It would seem very dull to those from the US to spend the morning shooting a Beretta 92FS and an AR15 variant but I cannot do that in my country and I had a great time!! I even hit the target a time or two which after not shooting pistols for close on 30 years after the government banned them was a nice surprise.
After the range it was back to the factory to check the shaped stock. To say I was delighted with the results so far is a massive understatement! The stock was beautiful in my eyes and the dimensions seemed perfect. Some shots from freehand at the range with both open sights and red dot (Aimpoint Acro) were very comfortable and showed two impacts within 2 inches or so and much better centred left to right. From freehand with a strange .470 I will take that as a great start. I will attach the picture of the target, the red dot impacts are the lower two and could be easily adjusted out.
Did I change the specifications? … Yes I did. I went for the standard express sights with only one fixed leaf, no swing off mounts and included the recoil reducer.
This trip has been a great experience in itself. I now have to do the hardest part and wait for two years for the barrel and action to be made!

I didn’t know that was an option. That’s amazing. I’m guessing you can make payments on the thing over a two year period. Or do they want all money upfront?

For a long time, these were heavily discounted used and you could buy them for under €10,000, but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. I sold my 500-416 for way too little and replacement cost of one today is basically $20,000. Even used ones on egun generally go for over 15,000 Euro

https://www.egun.de/item/20303843/krieghoff-classic-big-five-doppelbuchse-luxusgravur

Kind of become the normal price, even though this is the very heavily engraved one. The last few that I’ve seen of all been this expensive.

Muskox said:

I didn’t know that was an option. That’s amazing. I’m guessing you can make payments on the thing over a two year period. Or do they want all money upfront?

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Can’t remember the exact percentage but approximately 1/3 deposit and remainder on delivery which give time to save up. At least that is how has worked for me in the UK.