Ideal rifle & cartridge for Greenland Muskox?

338wm shooting 225g will do everything you are going to do with it.
 
I was taking to my outfitter earlier this year about Greenland muskox and he recommended I bring my 375H&H with 300 grain Barnes TSX. He knows I like the TSX but also recommends the Swift A-Frame.

I’m confident in it out to 200 yards and with a little practice could be taking game at 300.

I would recommend using your 375H&H and stepping up to 270 grain bullets as a minimum.

Very important - find some anatomy of a muskox pictures for reference. They are big hairy beasts and finding the vitals can be difficult.
 
The legal minimum for Musk Ox hunting in Greenland for foreign trophy hunters is .30-06

It is quite possible to get close to MuskOx. I have been within 20 meters once and 50 meters several times.

It is characteristic for Mosk Ox to stand their ground and stare you down, rather than flee. Looking deep into their eyes at close range, feels like staring down a portal into pre-historic times.

MuskOx are quite tough to kill. It is not uncommon for them to remain on their feet after two well placed shots, while staring you down as if nothing happened.

Be fit. You will be walking up and down and up and down and up and down steep terrain all day, every day of the hunt. Your main concern should be personal fitness and which boots to wear.
 
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IMO - 3. 4.


A Husky .30/06 with 180g Nosler Partitions - and day long and twice on Sunday.

A muskox is hardly a Cape buffalo.


If you want to use something larger, no problem, but a .30/06 is completely sufficient.
 
I used my guides 30.06 when I hunted muskox in Nunavik. On my hunt I sat in a plywood sled kind of thing pulled behind a snowmobile. We drove up to within 40-50 yards or so of them and shot from there.

How do you hunt muskox in Greenland, spot and stalk, from a snowmobile, pulled in a sled behind a snowmobile?
 
Musk ox are relatively easy to get close and personal. They are made to be Bowhunted! 2 Ox in a couple days-
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I will preface by saying I have no muskox experience but I have been to a few places in AK where they reside. Blued metal and wood stocks would not be my recommendation for venturing into those places though I know they will suffice. My personal recommendation would be option 2 or option 4 with a change of optic. If you hand loaded or ammo was more available the 338rcm would also make an excellent choice but I believe the 7rem mag and 300wsm will have significantly more options abroad should you get in a tight spot with ammo not showing up.

I am a big fan of the .284 caliber in all flavors and for many years the 7mm rem mag was my go to. I would not have hesitated to use it on any game in North America with a quality bullet. The 150 TTSX or 155 Terminal Accent would be my go to bullets these days, light and tough enough to be pushed hard but aerodynamic enough to hold onto velocity well. Should take care of anything you put in front of it provided you can do your part!
 
For their size I should think any rifle or caliber suitable for elk would do the trick. I would definitely recommend a bonded bullet due to the length and thickness of the hair and hide. Keep us apprised of your hunt.
 
Unfortunately, due to climatic reasons, Greenland is no longer what it was. I was in the past often there for hunting and fishing during various seasons and in various areas, including several times in the wintertime, when pack ice would seal off all the fjords and the harbors, and temperatures occasionally drop as low as -40°C. Sadly, that is all in the past.
 
I was taking to my outfitter earlier this year about Greenland muskox and he recommended I bring my 375H&H with 300 grain Barnes TSX. He knows I like the TSX but also recommends the Swift A-Frame.

I’m confident in it out to 200 yards and with a little practice could be taking game at 300.

I would recommend using your 375H&H and stepping up to 270 grain bullets as a minimum.

Very important - find some anatomy of a muskox pictures for reference. They are big hairy beasts and finding the vitals can be difficult.

I love my 375's and for DG hunting the 300g TSX is my "Go-To". But, since the 375 is used to hunt DG, the bullets for it are mostly optimized for DG hunting and are slower to expand when applied to smaller lighter skinned animals. I have used the 375 on a number of hunts and I shoot mine well. But with the big heavy bullets, they lose velocity rapidly and out past about 200-250y they are going so slow that the copper mono bullets may not expand much if at all. They will still hit hard and will kill but in my past experience, they are not better than some of the smaller faster options. Copper monos drive deeper than lead core bullets of the same weight and caliber. For hunting game like Caribou or Muskox, Deer, Moose, etc I would use a different bullet if the 375 were to be my choice. A Federal 250g cup n core bullet or better still is the 235g TTSX. It chronos 3035fps in my 375 and is still running faster than 2000fps out to 350y. That still does not make it the best choice, but does make it a valid choice.

I have had better results with my 338wm using the 225g TTSX. That combo hits like a hammer and is fast enough to stay above 2000fps out to 400y. I dropped a Nilgai with one shot at 155y in Texas this year and those are notoriously hard to kill. Mine dropped in his tracks from a shot that burst the heart into several small pieces. My son dropped his the same way with his 338 from 237y using a 225g AccuBond. One of our buddies on the trip also dropped his Nilgai in its tracks with a 338wm. A few weeks ago, I bagged a 1250 lb Bull Moose with the same 338wm using the 225g TTSX. The moose took three shots from 70-80y. For absolute stopping power on non-DG animals the 338wm is my #1. As stated earlier, any of the rifles on my list are adequate and it comes down to a compromise between raw close range stopping power for the Muskox and great long to medium range precision for the Caribou. For those reasons, I am still leaning to the 7mm RM and the 300 WSM as the likely choice.
 
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The legal minimum for Musk Ox hunting in Greenland for foreign trophy hunters is .30-06

So, what you are saying is that the 7mm Mag is not legal for Muskox? Are the regs caliber specific? or Energy specific? i.e. would a 308 be legal also? I would think that anything that a 30-06 would kill could be taken with the 7mm Mag. They are used all over for Elk and Moose. With heavy for caliber, bonded bullets, they drive deep and shoot flatter than the 30-06 by a small margin.

Please share details.
 
I am hearing that it is complicated to bring your own rifle to Greenland? Would those of you who have travelled to Greenland with firearms, please share the process and your experiences? How hard is it to travel to Copenhagen as a waypoint with rifles?

If I have to use a rental, I would likely not make this trip in favor of a different locale.
 
So, what you are saying is that the 7mm Mag is not legal for Muskox? Are the regs caliber specific? or Energy specific? i.e. would a 308 be legal also? I would think that anything that a 30-06 would kill could be taken with the 7mm Mag. They are used all over for Elk and Moose. With heavy for caliber, bonded bullets, they drive deep and shoot flatter than the 30-06 by a small margin.

Please share details.
From the website link he provides (converted to English--no, not by me!):

Musk oxen may be hunted with rifles and bows and arrows:
• Rifles for commercial and recreational hunting must have a caliber of at least 6.5 x 55, projectile diameter of 6.5 mm.
• Rifles for trophy hunting must have a caliber of at least 7.62 x 63, projectile diameter of 7.62 mm.
 
I am hearing that it is complicated to bring your own rifle to Greenland? Would those of you who have travelled to Greenland with firearms, please share the process and your experiences? How hard is it to travel to Copenhagen as a waypoint with rifles?
If I have to use a rental, I would likely not make this trip in favor of a different locale.
Yes, I agree.

If a country’s firearms regulations make it too complicated and/or prohibitively expensive to bring your own rifle - effectively creating “a rental gun only” proposition for foreign hunters - I’d cross it off the list entirely and spend my hunting dollars in gun-friendlier locales.
 
So, what you are saying is that the 7mm Mag is not legal for Muskox? Are the regs caliber specific? or Energy specific? i.e. would a 308 be legal also? I would think that anything that a 30-06 would kill could be taken with the 7mm Mag. They are used all over for Elk and Moose. With heavy for caliber, bonded bullets, they drive deep and shoot flatter than the 30-06 by a small margin.

Please share details.

I linked to the very rules at the relevant Greenlandic Government website, the link is included in the bit you quoted ;-)

Trophy hunting for MuskOX in Greenland: At least 7,62 x 63, projectile diameter at least 7,62 mm.

(7,62x63 is the metric/military/NATO designation for the caliber known as .30-06 in the USA and many other places)
 
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I linked to the very rules at the relevant Greenlandic Government website, the link is included in the bit you quoted ;-)

Trophy hunting for MuskOX in Greenland: At least 7,62 x 63, projectile diameter at least 7,62 mm.

(7,62x63 is the metric/military/NATO designation for the caliber known as .30-06 in the USA and many other places)

Interesting - By that logic my 7.62x53mm aka: 300 WSM would not be legal since it does not measure up to the required 63mm length. I am not arguing with you but find the requirement to be lacking in clarity. Obviously the 300 WSM carries more energy and at least as much penetration as the 30-06 that is held as the minimum std. Then there is the recreational hunting std of 6.5x55mm vs the trophy hunting std of the 30-06? So, if I am only hunting for fun that means I can use the 6.5 Sweede? Or does the recreational std only apply to the citizens of Greenland? I have options that fit the requirements but am not pleased by arbitrary requirements that make no logical sense.
 
I know that there is no such thing at the "Ideal" cartridge for this task but want to initiate a discussion on the subject. This past week one of the bad influences (not) in my life, texted me to invite me to go on a 2028 hunt for Muskox and Caribou in Greenland. Knowing next to nothing about Muskox, I set out to do my homework and soon began to ponder what rifle from my existing collection would be the closest to ideal? BTW - the outfitter can take up to six (6) hunters the week we plan to go (Aug 21-25, 2028 Lord willing). We have all six slots on hold for a week and have only filled four of them tentatively counting me and I am still on the fence. If you want to bring a buddy and join the adventure, PM me for details. If you have access to a private jet, we will make you a real deal, lol. The logistics of flying into Greenland are a bit sucky. Fly to Copenhagen and spend the night and then fly to Greenland or choose the one flight each week to Greenland.

All I know about Muskox is that a mature male is about 600-700lbs live weight or about the same weight as a Blue Wildebeest with similar toughness. Long hair makes them look larger and also makes finding the kill zone more tricky. The open tundra of Greenland lacks cover but has enough mountainous terrain to enable stalks to get close enough that ELR shots are not necessary. While shooting off sticks is always an option, this hunt is one of the places where going prone and shooting off of a rucksack is a realistic possibility which could make it realistic to shoot out to 400sih yards if necessary. My desire is to get within 200y if possible and that seems realistic.

If you have hunted Greenland or hunted Muskox anywhere, I would love to get your perspective about what to take and how to hunt these animals? But, the main purpose of this thread is to discuss the merits of my rifles that I might choose for this trip. I have eliminated the lightweight precision options like my 243 because it is too small and the 6.5CM because I do not have one. Following is a list of what I do have and while I would not be opposed to buying another rifle, I think we can find one or two on this list to do the job. I might take two rifles. One optimized for my ideal range of about 200y and the 2nd better capable of longer shots out to about 400y.

  1. 1. CT Edge in 7mm/08 - This is a carbon/titanium featherweight built on a Sako 85 action and topped with my favorite 1-8x LPVO hunting optic. It is a proven performer but might be a bit light for this task? It can hit a 8" gong at 400y with a number of 139 & 140g bullets. I killed a Blk Wildebeest with it at 314y which is also my longest shot on big game.

  2. 2. CT Edge in 7mm RM - Another Carbon/Ti lightweight albeit longer and slightly heavier. Topped with a nice Swarovski Z5 3.5-18x optic that is too much scope for most hunting but for the wide open tundra might be just the ticket. As a 2FP optic it is not my favorite as it does not dial well and accurate hold overs require zooming to 18x which can be clunky. But it has supreme glass and shoots flat enough that holdovers are usually not necessary. This rifle is also 400y capable and very precise. Most loads are in the 160-175g weights.

  3. 3. FN Browning Mauser in 308 - A tiny featherweight with pencil bbl, this vintage rifle is a proven performer in Africa with a long list of one shot kills with zero failures. Topped with an equally vintage Balvar 2.5-8x scope that has only a simple tapered crosshair. This limits its use to about 300y but that is enough. A pretty, classic hunting rifle. Some would say too pretty to hunt with.

    4. Husqvarna Swedish Mauser in 30-06 - Possibly the perfect rifle for this hunt. The rifle is equipped with a FFP 4-16x optic that dials precisely or can be used to hold over as needed out to about 400y. Slightly heavier than the first three but not more than about 8lbs all in.

  4. 5. Tikka T3X in 300 WSM - The newest of the list and only fired for the first time yesterday. Also wears my favorite 1-8x LPVO hunting optic but one rifle that I would consider replacing the scope if this was the best choice. Even with the low power optic, this combo is capable of 400y shots. While zeroing at 100y it printed three <1" groups with each of the three loads that I tried and the best was 0.7". Shows promise.

  5. 6. Ruger M77 Hawkeye Compact Magnum in 338 RCM - Tiny, short, light thumper. The Ruger also wears my favorite 1-8x LPVO. It is handicapped by the fact that the only factory ammo available today is Hornady Superformance 225g SST. Adequate for the task but not ideal. If this was my top choice, I might gear up to reload for this one to load Nosler AB's or Barnes TTSX bullets. With the factory ammo, this is the only one in the group that cannot hold sub moa at 100y and barely does 1.5" sometimes and usually closer to 2". Still it is good enough to be a solid 200y rifle and has been getting better with use and who knows what good reloads might do?

  6. 7. Sako 85 in 338wm - This is a proven performer and used to take both Nilgai and Moose this year. Also equipped with the 1-8x LPVO. Heavier at about 9lbs all in but not terrible. Shoots the Barnes 225g TTSX best and the Federal 200g Trophy Bonded Tip almost as good. The later being the load, I would use for Greenland if chosen. It is a solid 300y rifle. Not much more as equipped. But, this one does have a secret super power. The scope mounts are Leupold QD's and I have a 2nd scope zeroed at 200y for it that is a nice FFP 4-16x that enables a bit more precision at longer ranges. Takes only seconds to swap out if conditions make it necessary. Still terrain in Greenland seems to support the plan to stalk within 200y in most cases which would make the bigger scope unnecessary.

  7. 8. FN Browning in 375HH - This fine old vintage rifle is a chunk to lug around at about 10lbs but is very accurate. I also have a DT factory load using the 235g Barnes TTSX that is flat enough and fast enough to shoot out to about 350y. But, the rifle is slightly handicapped by its Swarovski Z6i 1-6x optic that is more optimized for DG in Africa than long range Muskox in Greenland. Nice to have but too much gun in this case me thinks.
There are others but this is the short list and I can boil the favorites down to rifles 2, 4, 5 and 6 by virtue of their adequate power and lighter weight. Further distilling them to rifles 2 or 5 since they have stainless/Ti actions and synthetic stocks since it snows and rains in Greenland, they would fair better than the walnut/blued steel crowd. I could rescope the Tikka but would likely just take the 7mm Mag and be done with it. It is a proven 400y rifle and while I do not plan to shoot that far, it is nice to know that you can, plus at 7lbs all in it is one of the lightest of the list. Downsides? Its 26" bbl is unwieldy but in the open tundra would probably be ok. It is so long that it will not fit in many gun cases even without the muzzle brake and with a can attached, it is long enough to poke a Muskox in the eye at 100y (almost). Thoughts? Comments?

What bullets would you use for Muskox? I lean to a bonded core or copper mono. Fusion, AccuBond, TTSX, Trophy Bonded Tip.

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Sako Model 85 in .338 Winchester Magnum.
 

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