Good Gun Deals This Week

Coming up in France: a '.416 Magnum' Belgian rifle on a Mauser action:

https://www.interencheres.com/en-US...-chasse-et-militaria-689613/lot-89130392.html

It is fairly obvious that the auctioneer doesn't know what they are selling, but it appears to be a .416 Remington magnum with at least one round bridge (performance is essentially the same as a .416 Rigby, but with cheaper ammunition). Flag safety. Weight of the rifle is not given, but it looks to be fairly substantial from the photographs.

If interested, buying in France is a pain nowadays, but Mrs. Suzanne Davies of Armurerie du Forestier speaks English and is highly competent. Estimate €600 - 800.

There's a left-handed Winchester Model 70 in 30-06 for $1,250 at the Bass Pro in Greenville, SC. It has a few dings on it showing it has been used but they're so rare these days, it was worth a mention to my fellow southpaws.

My guess is that when the store opens in half an hour, it'll disappear with lightning speed if that didn't already happen last night.

I already own three 30-06 rifles so I need someone to do me a favor & save me from this particular temptation...

One can actually order it online immediately, and then have it delivered to their nearest Bass Pro for no charge (or their FFL for the cost of shipping). The "Order Online" button looks like it's still active for that listing at the moment.

I don't know anything about these. A quick google search says it is an English gun maker, but it is not part of W.J. Jeffery? Either way seems like a pretty good price for a Mauser action .500 Jeffery

I did some research, it seems this Jeffery is distinct from the original London Jeffery.

"W. Jeffery & Son, Plymouth and Palos Verdes" refer to custom-built dangerous-game rifles (such as .500 Jeffery and custom Remington 30 Express builds in .500 Schuler/Jeffery) assembled by a modern custom gunmaker or builder using the historical W. Jeffery & Son lineage name (historically based in Plymouth, England, at addresses like George Street and Russell Street) combined with a Palos Verdes, California, workshop or address.

cash_tx said:

One can actually order it online immediately, and then have it delivered to their nearest Bass Pro for no charge (or their FFL for the cost of shipping). The "Order Online" button looks like it's still active for that listing at the moment.

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And it's gone....

What is the etiquette for posting guns listed in an auction here? I have seen a couple people grip about it in the past. I was browsing an auction site this morning and saw 3 guns that I thought might interest the group.

Mod 70 458 Lott
Parker Hale 1200C 35 Whelen
Win. 1917 450Watts

I have no association with the auction, and these are not my guns or anyone I know's.

Rhoyland4 said:

What is the etiquette for posting guns listed in an auction here? I have seen a couple people grip about it in the past. I was browsing an auction site this morning and saw 3 guns that I thought might interest the group.

Mod 70 458 Lott
Parker Hale 1200C 35 Whelen
Win. 1917 450Watts

I have no association with the auction, and these are not my guns or anyone I know's.

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I have voiced my .02 several times. It seems to be valued well under .01 now. . I think it is poor form to list/link active auctions (as compared it buy it now/fixed price listings). Many forums prohibit the same. Some folks here spend a lot of time looking for good deals/poorly described/listed items and I feel their angst when the auction is referenced. I try to put myself in the shoes of the guy who can only afford what they are seeking if they find it at a great value (perhaps an obscure website or improper description etc.) and one of their "finds" is then listed by someone else. Obviously there is no guarantee they will prevail at their desired price, but there is a much greater chance they will do so when a handful of people may have noticed the value as compared to thousands after posted on a popular forum. Other opinions are diametrically opposed to my assessment.

I agree with what RR314 said, but you are welcome to PM them to me though

I think RR314 captures the general sentiment well stated, but there is an irony that this is supposed to be a sense of community, this thread ostensibly exists to share good deals and to find good deals, and people are just upset when it’s “their” deal. And there may likely be a widow of a deceased hunter of the other end of the auction paying for your good deals.

I refrain from those postings, but really see both sides. Until the auction hammer strikes you don’t know what’s a good deal anyway - many auctions seems to lowball estimates to drive interest, so it may inadvertently just be a lot of “noise” to post auctions here anyway.

I have no problems posting a weapon I think is at a good price. I have no knowledge of anyone else’s secret interest and would rather offer it up to everyone as opposed to not letting anyone know for fear of offending someone.

HH

Hunting Hitman said:

I have no problems posting a weapon I think is at a good price. I have no knowledge of anyone else’s secret interest and would rather offer it up to everyone as opposed to not letting anyone know for fear of offending someone.

HH

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Just so I am clear, I am all for posting listings that are a good (fixed) price. I will also state that I am not an active buyer. I do see a difference in auctions as compared to fixed-price listings. There is no way to discern if the price is "good" with X days remaining in an auction.

With proxibid, liveauctioneers etc. the auction world is greatly expanded to the masses; however, there are still occasional steals at smaller auction houses (largely due to online only auctions with typos/spelling errors/improper descriptions by those without knowledge of the item). When I was searching, I would commonly see @buckstix as the high bidder--including at some really obscure sellers. For those spending seemingly hours a day searching for the rare "great" deal, I do think understand their angst when that auction is identified and posted. Again, just my opinion. Worth less than what you paid for it.

I would say PLEASE post any type of listing you see for a great firearm. We are all looking for a great deal and many are on a fixed budget. This idea of not disclosing an auction for fear that someone who scrolls auction sites cannot score a smoking deal seems pretty laughable to me. And truthfully as someone who has posted a few items for auction over the years, I appreciate any and all help to get my guns in front of the largest possible audience.

Am in complete agreement with @RR 314 . While some gun and hunting forums prohibit listing the link to an active online auction, those are not the rules on this forum so active online gun auctions will continue to be listed. As we can see, some have no issue with this and some will privately curse you if one lists an active gun auction listing.

First regarding an actual online firearms auction open to bidding, there is no such thing as a “good deal” and the notion that it is, is flawed thinking because nobody knows until the hammer comes down and the auction ends just how good a deal it may be.

I would say for those truly scouring the various online auctions for a particular gun, it is not hard to proactively search and most do. I could be wrong, just an impression, but it seems most experienced veteran longtime bidders of online gun auctions do not need someone to point out a particular gun they may be interested in, they know exactly how to search, locate and monitor.

On the other hand, it seems the inexperienced person that rarely engages with online firearms auctions is grateful when an auction gun listing in posted with a link. My takeaway anyways.

SStomcat said:

I did some research, it seems this Jeffery is distinct from the original London Jeffery.

"W. Jeffery & Son, Plymouth and Palos Verdes" refer to custom-built dangerous-game rifles (such as .500 Jeffery and custom Remington 30 Express builds in .500 Schuler/Jeffery) assembled by a modern custom gunmaker or builder using the historical W. Jeffery & Son lineage name (historically based in Plymouth, England, at addresses like George Street and Russell Street) combined with a Palos Verdes, California, workshop or address.

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Thomas h. Friedkin was the owner of the jeffery ledgers about 2000-2003 he got them from Paul Roberts he told Roberts he was going to have a few rifles built and he did built a few and that was that no more ,then reto beuhler was doing them in the states thru Roberts finally the name went back to England to Roberts and that was that . I held that 500 last week at MNR its definetly well built and a good deal its not a magnum mauser and its a built up square bridge but very Nice work . Friedkin was a well know person thru out the south west a stunt pilot as well as car dealer

I will ponder the responses for now. I am not interested in any of the 3 guns I would link here, but I plan to bid on several other guns in the auction. I know most people would end up looking at the complete catalog, not just the individual guns I list. This would put my interests at risk too, but I think I would be okay with that.

pjaln said:

Thomas h. Friedkin was the owner of the jeffery ledgers about 2000-2003 he got them from Paul Roberts he told Roberts he was going to have a few rifles built and he did built a few and that was that no more ,then reto beuhler was doing them in the states thru Roberts finally the name went back to England to Roberts and that was that . I held that 500 last week at MNR its definetly well built and a good deal its not a magnum mauser and its a built up square bridge but very Nice work . Friedkin was a well know person thru out the south west a stunt pilot as well as car dealer

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The finish on that rifle looks to have a textured finish to it, like it was acid etched and then coated or blued. How does it look in person? I was a bit excited the day it was listed, feverishly clicking the “new today” icon to eagerly review. The rough finish just caused me pause not.knowing if the gun suffered some corrosion and that was a means to refurbish to the extent possible or intentional from its inception.

Almost messaged Matt a couple times but need less bolt guns now and that kept me at bay long enough to get busy packing for a hunt. Still curious though.

Wildwillalaska said:

The finish on that rifle looks to have a textured finish to it, like it was acid etched and then coated or blued. How does it look in person? I was a bit excited the day it was listed, feverishly clicking the “new today” icon to eagerly review. The rough finish just caused me pause not.knowing if the gun suffered some corrosion and that was a means to refurbish to the extent possible or intentional from its inception.

Almost messaged Matt a couple times but need less bolt guns now and that kept me at bay long enough to get busy packing for a hunt. Still curious though.

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yes it does have a somewhat textured bluing and the comb is a bit high for an open sight rifle , tho fit and finish is very nice ..goood news is that its not a fraud of a rifle its just not a jeffery made in England same like what BUEHLER was doing with permission for Roberts tho his stuff is vey nice anyway . reto is a very nice guy I spoke with him he did not know anything about this rifle or the man who had it built

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I have voiced my .02 several times. It seems to be valued well under .01 now. . I think it is poor form to list/link active auctions (as compared it buy it now/fixed price listings). Many forums prohibit the same. Some folks here spend a lot of time looking for good deals/poorly described/listed items and I feel their angst when the auction is referenced. I try to put myself in the shoes of the guy who can only afford what they are seeking if they find it at a great value (perhaps an obscure website or improper description etc.) and one of their "finds" is then listed by someone else. Obviously there is no guarantee they will prevail at their desired price, but there is a much greater chance they will do so when a handful of people may have noticed the value as compared to thousands after posted on a popular forum. Other opinions are diametrically opposed to my assessment.

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I've got the same thoughts/sentiments.
I've always thought it was poor form and many, if not most other forums prohibit the posting of live Auction items unless it's fixed price. All you're doing is inviting other potential bidders you don't know by trying to be nice, but also more than likely create additional competition for another nice person you don't know who'd been watching or is already bidding on it due to their own legwork. If someone especially on a fixed income is looking for a deal or looking for a specific firearm they're doing the leg work and I try to respect that. If it's something I personally know someone is looking for, I send them the auction in a text or a PM.

When one starts getting into bigger auction catalogs like RIA, Morphy's, Holt's, etc most think they're sharing something they're not interested in or a buddy isn't interested in, but I assure you there are people who didn't know about the auction. They find it or tell someone else about it and now there's additional eyes and potential competition on all items. Again, I share with someone I know looking for something in particular. Anything beyond that I feel I'm doing a disservice to someone else, since the less eyes on an item the more likely someone is to get a better deal.

I get texts/PM's all the time from other members asking my thoughts on auctions. I keep them quiet/private, let them know what like models have sold for in past auctions, what book value is, negatives I see, ect. If I know of someone else bidding, I'll even tell them they'll have competition.

Not a gun, but the best piece of glass for any safari...

swoobie said:

Not a gun, but the best piece of glass for any safari...

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/parts-ammo-accessories/optics/swarovski-10x42-el-range-binoculars.cfm?gun_id=103866704

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Those must be an older model...they sure don't look like mine.

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