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Brent in Az · Aug 2, 2026

Alabama, Florida, and Louisiana, have opened investigations into Fauci.

Ontario Hunter · Aug 2, 2026

Tubby’s Canteen said:
If this “band” wins in court the North Atlantic will be the maritime reincarnation of the Wild West. The commercial fisherman will just be able to self identify as indigenous and fish year round. There will be no need for seasons anymore.

What was it foghorn leghorn used to say “luckily I keep my feathers numbered for just such an occasion”

Like managing moose resource here is impossible because Natives can hunt anytime, any day, anywhere, and utilizing any method. Jacklighting from snow machines and ATVs is their preferred method. The notion that they are inherent conservationist in union with Mother Earth blah blah blah is fiction. Read "Keepers of the Game" (by Whiteman as I recall - no pun). The HBC records are full of agents' lamentations over the wastefulness of their Native workers harvesting everything they could with no thought to conserving. Often resulted in HBC having to scrounge into their own supplies to keep their labor supply from starving during winter. Needless to say, his book stirred up quite a storm. It was essentially banned from most Canadian history courses at our universities. Reverse racism at its best. Remake history. Kinda like what Trump is attempting to do with the National Parks.

Edit: Correction, "Keepers of the Game" author is Calvin Martin

Tubby’s Canteen · Aug 2, 2026

Ontario Hunter said:
Like managing moose resource here is impossible because Natives can hunt anytime, any day, anywhere, and utilizing any method. Jacklighting from snow machines and ATVs is their preferred method. The notion that they are inherent conservationist in union with Mother Earth blah blah blah is fiction. Read "Keepers of the Game" (by Whiteman as I recall - no pun). The HBC records are full of agents' lamentations over the wastefulness of their Native workers harvesting everything they could with no thought to conserving. Often resulted in HBC having to scrounge into their own supplies to keep their labor supply from starving during winter. Needless to say, his book stirred up quite a storm. It was essentially banned from most Canadian history courses at our universities. Reverse racism at its best. Remake history. Kinda like what Trump is attempting to do with the National Parks.

Edit: Correction, "Keepers of the Game" author is Calvin Martin

Same here the so called stewards of the forest hunted the Cape Breton moose population down enough in the couple years following the allowance of self management that the entire hunt had to be closed. High seats mounted in truck beds and forestry roads were their preferred method there.

Tanks · Aug 2, 2026

Brent in Az said:
Alabama, Florida, and Louisiana, have opened investigations into Fauci.

Waste of resources. Fauci, regardless of what one thinks of him, was a Federal employee doing his job. Also, he was working in an advisory capacity and whatever decisions that were made by the Federal government in regard to mandates etc. we’re made by the executive branch.

States do not have jurisdiction here. Imagine if blue States opened investigations into members of Trump’s cabinet some years down the line?

Flipper Dude · Aug 2, 2026

We got resources to waste for that. The process is the punishment in this instance. I’d make his life a living hell

Tundra Tiger · Aug 2, 2026

Ontario Hunter said:
Risky though. Cops show up and all they see is a firefight in progress. Which one with a gun do they shoot?

I hope to crap if that were me, I'd be thinking about the people who are actively being shot at, not what might happen when the police get there.

Tubby’s Canteen · Aug 2, 2026

Tundra Tiger said:
I hope crap if that were me, I'd be thinking about the people who are actively being shot at, not what might happen when the police get there.

When seconds matter police are minutes away

Brent in Az · Aug 2, 2026

Tanks said:
Waste of resources. Fauci, regardless of what one thinks of him, was a Federal employee doing his job. Also, he was working in an advisory capacity and whatever decisions that were made by the Federal government in regard to mandates etc. we’re made by the executive branch.

States do not have jurisdiction here. Imagine if blue States opened investigations into members of Trump’s cabinet some years down the line?

Blue states have Done that to Trump and some of his supporters. New York, Georgia.....and they will continue to do it. Your argument is weak.
If anything they should try to bankrupt Fauci, just like they did to many of the Trumpsters trying to defend against the legal onslaught of the left.
In my world, turn around is fair play.
Problem is that many Republicans are too soft. In today's political landscape you have to be mean and vicious, just like the Dems.
Match them....blow for blow, and start making examples out of them.

And yes. .if you can't convict on some, at least make their lives a living hell. Just like the left has done to so many
Nice guy politics accomplishes nothing.

Tanks · Aug 2, 2026

Tundra Tiger said:
I hope to crap if that were me, I'd be thinking about the people who are actively being shot at, not what might happen when the police get there.

I think it was in Vegas, but not sure about the locale, where cops arrived and killed the guy that had stopped the shooting.

Edit: It was CO.

Colorado man who intervened after ambush on officer was fatally shot by police

John Hurley confronted and shot a man who killed a police officer in an ambush. Hurley was holding the gunman's AR-15 when a responding officer shot him, police said.

www.nbcnews.com

Tanks · Aug 2, 2026

Brent in Az said:
Blue states have Done that to Trump and some of his supporters. New York, Georgia.....and they will continue to do it. Your argument is weak.
If anything they should try to bankrupt Fauci, just like they did to many of the Trumpsters trying to defend against the legal onslaught of the left.
In my world, turn around is fair play.
Problem is that many Republicans are too soft. In today's political landscape you have to be mean and vicious, just like the Dems.
Match them....blow for blow, and start making examples out of them.

And yes. .if you can't convict on some, at least make their lives a living hell. Just like the left has done to so many
Nice guy politics accomplishes nothing.

So, basically you are after revenge rather than justice. Where does it end, as power shifts at each election cycle?

Regardless, I don't think States have the standing to go after a Federal employee especially when he wasn't even in their State when decisions were being made.

Can States prosecute Trump for causing gas prices to go up, for servicemen deaths due to his decisions? Can they prosecute Kennedy for measles deaths? Every action Federal government takes has winners and losers depending on who is on power. If States could go scorched Earth after their opponents leave office even less things would get done.

Brent in Az · Aug 2, 2026

Tanks said:
So, basically you are after revenge rather than justice. Where does it end, as power shifts at each election cycle?

Regardless, I don't think States have the standing to go after a Federal employee especially when he wasn't even in their State when decisions were being made.

Can States prosecute Trump for causing gas prices to go up, for servicemen deaths due to his decisions? Can they prosecute Kennedy for measles deaths? Every action Federal government takes has winners and losers depending on who is on power. If States could go scorched Earth after their opponents leave office even less things would get done.

Revenge or justice.....I'll settle for either
Faucis pardon only covers any crime committed at the federal level.
If a state AG can prove Fauci violated a state law and can take jurisdiction over the defendant, then they have legal standing.
I think the outlook you have is highly skewed.
Just about every leftard blue state wanted to go scorched earth on Trump, and wanted to sue him for everything under the sun. 100's of lawsuits and attempted convictions.
In case you haven't noticed, there is a political war going on in this country, with the left bound and determined to win at any cost, including escalation of violence.
Who do you think will ultimately win that war, Mr. Nice guy, or Mr. Vicious?
We can't keep giving these people a get out of jail free card, because they won't give one to us.

Tanks · Aug 2, 2026

Brent in Az said:
If a state AG can prove Fauci violated a state law and can take jurisdiction over the defendant, then they have legal standing.

It is the other way around. They have to have standing and then try to prove Fauci violated a State law.

If you remember all the State prosecutions of Trump were due to his direct actions (fraud etc.) that violated State law. He is a convicted felon as found by the jury for violating NY State law before he was elected as POTUS.

In case of Fauci I fail to see how they can stretch State law to someone doing their job as a Federal employee.

There is a reason ICE told CA to pound sand when CA passed a law criminalizing wearing masks by law enforcement. Federal law trumps State law and States can't dictate how Federal employees do their jobs.

Brent in Az · Aug 2, 2026

Tanks said:
It is the other way around. They have to have standing and then try to prove Fauci violated a State law.

If you remember all the State prosecutions of Trump were due to his direct actions (fraud etc.) that violated State law. He is a convicted felon as found by the jury for violating NY State law before he was elected as POTUS.

In case of Fauci I fail to see how they can stretch State law to someone doing their job as a Federal employee.

There is a reason ICE told CA to pound sand when CA passed a law criminalizing wearing masks by law enforcement. Federal law trumps State law and States can't dictate how Federal employees do their jobs.

We'll find out what the state AG's can come up with.....if anything, they can continue to drag his sorry ass thru the mud .
A man who was colaterally responsible for the death of 7.5 million. Look into Faucis connection with the HIV/AIDS medication.

As far as that joke of a NY trial and conviction against Trump. That cesspool of a corrupt legal system had that case decided before Trump and his lawyers ever stepped foot into that courtroom.

Federal law may Trump state law, but a federal employee who does harm to someone can be held accountable at a state level

Tanks · Aug 2, 2026

Brent in Az said:
Federal law may Trump state law, but a federal employee who does harm to someone can be held accountable at a state level

That is a pretty high bar to prove, he is not an ICE agent emptying his gun at a suspect while in the State itself.

On this subject of State governments charging Federal employees for crimes allegedly committed while doing their jobs, here is a scenario.

A DSA member wins a State governorship. He/she believes that Israel committed genocide/war crimes in Gaza. So, using your logic then he/she would be able to prosecute people from Pentagon that facilitated arms sales to Israel for aiding and abetting war crimes. Ditto for trying them for collateral damage (read civilians) that is occurring in Iran right now as war crimes.

It is a slippery slope that Founders saw and put in the safeguards for Federal employees.

Edit: Looks like DSA member Francesca Hong will win WI Democratic primary for the governorship. So, the scenario above could be a reality.

Tanks · Aug 2, 2026

Brent in Az said:
As far as that joke of a NY trial and conviction against Trump. That cesspool of a corrupt legal system had that case decided before Trump and his lawyers ever stepped foot into that courtroom.

Yet, you are advocating the same thing for Fauci.

Ontario Hunter · Aug 2, 2026

Truth Social launches service selling faster access to Trump posts

President Donald Trump regularly uses the platform to post official statements on economic policy and global affairs.

www.nbcnews.com

This is interesting. Tough sell I would think. Why would anyone want pay extra to see quicker what Trump posts on his Truth Social? Just as well wait a day or so. By then he will either delete the post or unsay whatever he said.

But I'm sure Brent has already written his cheque.

SaintPanzer · Aug 2, 2026

Tanks said:
Waste of resources. Fauci, regardless of what one thinks of him, was a Federal employee doing his job. Also, he was working in an advisory capacity and whatever decisions that were made by the Federal government in regard to mandates etc. we’re made by the executive branch.

States do not have jurisdiction here. Imagine if blue States opened investigations into members of Trump’s cabinet some years down the line?

I'm reserving judgement on this until I learn more. From what I can tell, if States made decisions relating to lockdowns, etc., based on his official guidance while that guidance he knew to be false, that could be construed as fraud. That makes it much less about revenge, doesn't it?

Of course, you'd have to prove he knew the guidance was false (the diary goes a long way towards helping that, doesn't it?) and you'd have to prove State decisions were based on Federal guidance, but I, for one, would like to know.

I mean, I had to accept a vaccination that I now know could cause myocarditis, amongst other heart issues (https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/46/Supplement_1/ehaf784.4601/8308391?login=false). This is not conspiracy theory stuff, this is documented. Meanwhile, we know that he was encouraging policies relating to mandatory vaccinations, while documenting in his diary that he doubted the vaccines. That's supposed to matter.

Of course, in my case, I was covered under federal regulations, and we all know that crime has been pardoned. But State policies? You know, like you could lose your State Medical or Nursing license if you didn't follow the federal guidelines? Enquiring minds want to know.

Tanks · Aug 2, 2026

SaintPanzer said:
You know, like you could lose your State Medical or Nursing license if you didn't follow the federal guidelines? Enquiring minds want to know.

A clear case of the Supremacy clause in the Constitution.

Ontario Hunter · Aug 2, 2026

Brent in Az said:
As far as that joke of a NY trial and conviction against Trump. That cesspool of a corrupt legal system had that case decided before Trump and his lawyers ever stepped foot into that courtroom.

Federal law may Trump state law, but a federal employee who does harm to someone can be held accountable at a state level

No. President is a federal employee and he is immune from state prosecution if the crime is committed while he is in office.

I know it's hard for you to wrap your head around it but just maybe Trump did break the law in NY. I mean, it's not like he doesn't lie to everyone on a regular basis. Like his genius IQ (pfft!), faithful to his wives, election fraud in Georgia, vandalism of Lincoln pool, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc ...

Sometimes I think Trump could tell you dog shit is tuna fish and you'd be out in the back yard with a scoop shovel to mix up a casserole for tonight's dinner.

Ontario Hunter · Aug 2, 2026

SaintPanzer said:
I'm reserving judgement on this until I learn more. From what I can tell, if States made decisions relating to lockdowns, etc., based on his official guidance while that guidance he knew to be false, that could be construed as fraud. That makes it much less about revenge, doesn't it?

Of course, you'd have to prove he knew the guidance was false (the diary goes a long way towards helping that, doesn't it?) and you'd have to prove State decisions were based on Federal guidance, but I, for one, would like to know.

I mean, I had to accept a vaccination that I now know could cause myocarditis, amongst other heart issues (https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/46/Supplement_1/ehaf784.4601/8308391?login=false). This is not conspiracy theory stuff, this is documented. Meanwhile, we know that he was encouraging policies relating to mandatory vaccinations, while documenting in his diary that he doubted the vaccines. That's supposed to matter.

Of course, in my case, I was covered under federal regulations, and we all know that crime has been pardoned. But State policies? You know, like you could lose your State Medical or Nursing license if you didn't follow the federal guidelines? Enquiring minds want to know.

All the literature and studies clearly proved that the risk of cardiac complications from full blown COVID far far and away exceeded the extremely low risk associated with vaccine side effect. So which way do you want to roll the dice, RFK Jr?

During just one weekend more Americans succumbed to COVID than influenza over THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS! And most were not vaccinated. Consider yourself lucky you were not allowed to roll the dice. Because getting infected meant you were rolling the dice for everyone else around you. THAT was the real "crime."

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