Free Range Buffalo Hunt in South Africa?

My wife and I hunted Greater Krueger with Ernest Dyason with Spear Safaris. We shot 3 management bulls (which are giants) and one unlimited that was 44.5 inches. All of the bulls were very old and it was an amazing experience please feel free to message me with any questions. Will View attachment 737882definitely do it again.View attachment 737880View attachment 737881View attachment 737879
I know Ernest and have recently been communicating with him about other areas.. Thank you.
 
I know Ernest and have recently been communicating with him about other areas.. Thank you.
Yes, Ernest is my go to. I’m going to Zimbabwe with him in August for lion Buffalo then may be over to South Africa for rhino and then in 27 Botswana for elephant.
 
Yes, Ernest is my go to. I’m going to Zimbabwe with him in August for lion Buffalo then may be over to South Africa for rhino and then in 27 Botswana for elephant.
Thank you for the feedback!
 
I was thinking of shooting an old buffalo in Greater Kruger for a long time. Between GK and Kruger National Park, the fences have been removed, which means that the game can switch back and forth. Through many visits to Kruger I am aware of the quality of the buffaloes there. Numerous really old boys are among them.

Unfortunately, I let my plans for Greater Kruger go by and instead booked a buffalo hunt in a supposedly very good area in Zimbabwe. A lot of things came together, unfortunately I didn't get a buffalo...

Presumably it would have turned out differently in Greater Kruger, and I would have shot a buffalo. However, this is not certain, because even there the buffaloes are not tied up. However, the next hunt will certainly take place in Greater Kruger.
 
I was thinking of shooting an old buffalo in Greater Kruger for a long time. Between GK and Kruger National Park, the fences have been removed, which means that the game can switch back and forth. Through many visits to Kruger I am aware of the quality of the buffaloes there. Numerous really old boys are among them.

Unfortunately, I let my plans for Greater Kruger go by and instead booked a buffalo hunt in a supposedly very good area in Zimbabwe. A lot of things came together, unfortunately I didn't get a buffalo...

Presumably it would have turned out differently in Greater Kruger, and I would have shot a buffalo. However, this is not certain, because even there the buffaloes are not tied up. However, the next hunt will certainly take place in Greater Kruger.
It’s an amazing hunt. There are tons of old bulls and their management criteria is very interesting as well.
 
Did you decide on a hunt yet? I am currently sitting in a private concession chasing Plains Game, after harvesting my bull yesterday on the Babule APNR. I spent two years looking for the right option for my dad and I, happy to share knowledge if youre still looking
 
Did you decide on a hunt yet? I am currently sitting in a private concession chasing Plains Game, after harvesting my bull yesterday on the Babule APNR. I spent two years looking for the right option for my dad and I, happy to share knowledge if youre still looking
Thank you! Yes, my sons and I were there in June. Two Klaserie bulls and one Umbabat bull. We then did what you’re doing and finished on a private concession. Amazing trip. I hope you enjoy the rest of the experience. Here are our bulls. Please share yours and the hunt story.
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I prefer the hunts in those countries, but if I wanted a mid-40s buffalo or a certain age class I’d hunt in reserves adjacent Kruger. I think the buffalo hunting is superior there but I think the overall experience is better elsewhere.
Why do you think the genetics are better there?
 
Why do you think the genetics are better there?
Your guess would be as good as mine, I’d suspect the huge park combined with low hunting quotas. The size and age based quota on South African side definitely helps also. There are other areas that produce good buffalo each year, but I don’t know where else produces the consistency except a few areas in Tanzania. There are other areas that give a great buffalo hunt today but high 30s is all you can realistically expect for the biggest bulls. If you look back the quotas were way too high not so long ago in those areas. I think those areas unfortunately shot out the best genetics and need time to recover, but I’m still not sure they’d compare to the best Kruger bulls.
 
Your guess would be as good as mine, I’d suspect the huge park combined with low hunting quotas. The size and age based quota on South African side definitely helps also. There are other areas that produce good buffalo each year, but I don’t know where else produces the consistency except a few areas in Tanzania. There are other areas that give a great buffalo hunt today but high 30s is all you can realistically expect for the biggest bulls. If you look back the quotas were way too high not so long ago in those areas. I think those areas unfortunately shot out the best genetics and need time to recover, but I’m still not sure they’d compare to the best Kruger bulls.
If I was concerned about size I think Kruger would be it. But I, like you, would care much more about the overall hunt than just the size of the horns.
 
Not to disparage your choices, but I was also of the opinion that hunting buffalo behind fence would be second rate. However, during my first safari I was reluctantly talked into culling a cow on a relatively small property (just 4K acres). The animals were just as cagey and cranky as any "wild" buffalo could be. Very hairy situation after I downed the cow. The herd bull took exception and came for us three times ... bringing the herd with him. Next safari I took a bull on a very much larger property out of Kimberly. We chased them around for four days before I finally was able to get a shot at him on the run (through both lungs). Last safari I agreed to cull a cow on another smaller property mostly to give my newly built 404 something to do. Three days we chased that herd in thick cover and only really got a glimpse of them once that might have presented a shot but a calf was on the offside. Buffalo are smart and dangerous no matter where you find them.
 
Not to disparage your choices, but I was also of the opinion that hunting buffalo behind fence would be second rate. However, during my first safari I was reluctantly talked into culling a cow on a relatively small property (just 4K acres). The animals were just as cagey and cranky as any "wild" buffalo could be. Very hairy situation after I downed the cow. The herd bull took exception and came for us three times ... bringing the herd with him. Next safari I took a bull on a very much larger property out of Kimberly. We chased them around for four days before I finally was able to get a shot at him on the run (through both lungs). Last safari I agreed to cull a cow on another smaller property mostly to give my newly built 404 something to do. Three days we chased that herd in thick cover and only really got a glimpse of them once that might have presented a shot but a calf was on the offside. Buffalo are smart and dangerous no matter where you find them.
I agree. Just because it's behind a fence doesn't mean it's shooting fish in a barrel. The property I'm hunting next week is 26,000 acres in Northern Limpopo and has some pretty thick bush, especially with all the rain they had this year. A buffalo hunt a couple weeks ago required many days and 60 miles of walking to get the bull they were after. He does it the right way of starting early picking up the tracks and following them wherever they take you.

Lots of different factors go into a buffalo hunt. Can't just judge it on the country they are hunted in.

Hopefully by this time next week I'll have some pictures to post. If not I'll put in some more miles till I get it done.
 
This is a few more Kruger bulls! We saw these last year. To me the third picture of the narrower bull looks pure evil and beautiful at the same time!
 

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If I was concerned about size I think Kruger would be it. But I, like you, would care much more about the overall hunt than just the size of the horns.
I was an African rookie when I arrived in Greater Kruger in June but I have to say that our hunt met all of my expectations. Enough so that I would do it again without hesitation. I'm sure there are many "wild" tracking hunts and "fenced" private property hunts that are amazing too and I would like to experience both eventually. I have no other points of comparison but I am quite sure that a quality PH/Outfitter can deliver an exceptional experience in any of these environments. One of the things I now believe about Africa is that the PH/Outfitter is the single most important part of the equation. Mine was exceptional. @Spear Safaris
 
I agree. Just because it's behind a fence doesn't mean it's shooting fish in a barrel. The property I'm hunting next week is 26,000 acres in Northern Limpopo and has some pretty thick bush, especially with all the rain they had this year. A buffalo hunt a couple weeks ago required many days and 60 miles of walking to get the bull they were after. He does it the right way of starting early picking up the tracks and following them wherever they take you.

Lots of different factors go into a buffalo hunt. Can't just judge it on the country they are hunted in.

Hopefully by this time next week I'll have some pictures to post. If not I'll put in some more miles till I get it done.
Good luck!
 
This is a few more Kruger bulls! We saw these last year. To me the third picture of the narrower bull looks pure evil and beautiful at the same time!
I’d like to see that first bull stand next to a scrum cap and put all the hunters that say a scrum cap is the ultimate buffalo trophy to the test. That bull has everything especially width and age.
 
Not to disparage your choices, but I was also of the opinion that hunting buffalo behind fence would be second rate. However, during my first safari I was reluctantly talked into culling a cow on a relatively small property (just 4K acres). The animals were just as cagey and cranky as any "wild" buffalo could be. Very hairy situation after I downed the cow. The herd bull took exception and came for us three times ... bringing the herd with him. Next safari I took a bull on a very much larger property out of Kimberly. We chased them around for four days before I finally was able to get a shot at him on the run (through both lungs). Last safari I agreed to cull a cow on another smaller property mostly to give my newly built 404 something to do. Three days we chased that herd in thick cover and only really got a glimpse of them once that might have presented a shot but a calf was on the offside. Buffalo are smart and dangerous no matter where you find them.
There are very good fenced properties that would provide the same experience as a wild area, but there are a lot that won’t. If the only criteria for a buffalo hunt is they run away and can be dangerous it opens up a lot if options, but hunting a property where every buffalo on property is known and chipped and has possibly been darted in the past destroys any trophy value to me. I’ll pay more to hunt a buffalo that’s been chased by lions and poachers and lived wild its whole life. I don’t mind hunting PG behind a fence but I’d ask a lot of questions before hunting DG behind a fence to determine if it has value to me.
 
I’d like to see that first bull stand next to a scrum cap and put all the hunters that say a scrum cap is the ultimate buffalo trophy to the test. That bull has everything especially width and age.
There was a scrum cap with him and another bull, I’ll see if I have a picture of both in the same frame . My daughter had a different angle so she might.
That would be a dream bull for sure.
 

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