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Check out the first 5 minutes - the Chinese are trolling Europe by showing mini splits being installed for dogs and pigs; also apparently France is claiming that Co2 emissions from the USA are to blame for the heat.....
 
deewayne2003 said:
"Under the jurisdiction of".... is pretty straight forward, as is "Shall not be infringed"

Tell me how people entering the country illegally, not paying taxes and giving fake names at hospitals to get free delivery are under jurisdiction of the laws of the USA?

Quite simply, if their first action in the USA is to enter the country illegally, then they certainly are not under the jurisdiction of the USA.
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Jurisdiction defines the physical boundaries where the laws apply. If they weren't under the jurisdiction of the United States they wouldn't be here illegally because that law wouldn't apply. If the immigration law applies then the constitution has to apply and vice versa.

No one has to like it but it is what the amendment says.

Anyone who hates the 14th Amendment should remember that it is a big reason courts have ruled that the Second Amendment applies to state gun laws.
 
spike.t said:
One for the oil guys to check.....does his info sound correct and how long to repair that part of the refinery?

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They took out the crude unit inclusive of
desalter and distillation along with some storage tanks.

Tanks are easy, probably days or weeks to reconfigure piping to work around lost storage.

The crude unit, if completely gone, is likely 12 to 18 months if you replace everything in kind with no design mods. It is unlikely that it is completely gone however.

I don’t know why they are not hitting the gas oil conversion units (Fluid cracker and hydrocracker). These units would be 24+ months for major repairs and the explosion would make the crude unit fire look like child’s play. Without gas oil conversion the refinery is quickly choked out on gas oil disposition and has to shut down to wait for repairs.
 
Tanks said:
So, is it the Deputy SECDEF responsible for firing of our experienced general officers then?
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Im going to guess thats Trump sending direction to Hegseth on some of them and Hegseth making that decision on his own with others.

Steve Feinberg is the Dep SECDEF. That guy is 1000% performance focus and performance driven. He has a track record that validates that he doesnt care if youre white, black, or purple, old or young, fat or skinny, straight gay or trans.. you perform and you get rewarded.. you fail and youre shown the door..

Hes actually a genuinely nice guy as well... (Ive had the opportunity to meet him a couple of times years back)..
 
Tanks said:
Ahem, the 14th Amendment was ratified 1868 almost a hundred years later. And if it was a mistake (like the 18th Amendment was), there are mechanisms to repeal it.
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Ahem.....I know when the 14th amendment was ratified.
The founding fathers made the Constitution and amendments were added by Congress who could also be considered founders of the Constitution since they helped build it also.......for those of you who like to split hairs.
The language maybe clear, but the intent in today's context is not.
The 14th amendment is poorly written, and it's a loophole that has been exploited, and will continue to be.
In today's political landscape it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to change the 14th amendment.
 
I want to say up front that I completely understand the recent Court decision on citizenship. I don't know how anyone would be surprised by the decision.

But here's the thing: I frequently hear opponents of the Second Amendment argue "But the people who wrote that were thinking of muskets, they couldn't have imagined automatic weapons..." or words to that effect.

If I accept that argument (and I'm not saying that I do), would it not also be true, in reference to the 14th Amendment, to argue: "But the people who wrote that could not have imagined air travel, allowing someone to comfortably fly to a city, have a baby, and then comfortably leave?"

I guess consistency would be the hobgoblin of little minds, wouldn't it?
 
Accidental Villain said:
The Russian oil-industry for sure are booming these days! KA-BOOM ,that is.

The next couple of months will be very interesting. The Ukrainians knows what parts of the refinery's to sanction and are obviously able to hit them with precision.
Maybe bunker-Vlad soon will have to call Kazakh Pres. Tokayev with the opening words,,drill-baby-drill;)

It does not seem the Russians take it too seriously though. For those that did`nt know before, the huge storage-tank lid you see blow several hundred feet in the air in the video was hit by Russian air defense. Firing a heat seeking missile over a blazing oil-refinery..to hit a small Ukrainian drone, is just so brilliant.
Those orcs never stop to amaze me.
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I actually don’t think that they are hitting the highest impact targets in the refinery. I would have thought that they would have someone with some expertise in the area helping them with their targeting decisions.
 
WAB said:
I actually don’t think that they are hitting the highest impact targets in the refinery. I would have thought that they would have someone with some expertise in the area helping them with their targeting decisions.
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Are you volunteering to serve in a consulting capacity? ;)

I very much appreciate your insights, like with @Red Leg and @mdwest with the war.
 
SaintPanzer said:
I want to say up front that I completely understand the recent Court decision on citizenship. I don't know how anyone would be surprised by the decision.

But here's the thing: I frequently hear opponents of the Second Amendment argue "But the people who wrote that were thinking of muskets, they couldn't have imagined automatic weapons..." or words to that effect.

If I accept that argument (and I'm not saying that I do), would it not also be true, in reference to the 14th Amendment, to argue: "But the people who wrote that could not have imagined air travel, allowing someone to comfortably fly to a city, have a baby, and then comfortably leave?"

I guess consistency would be the hobgoblin of little minds, wouldn't it?
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As regards the 2nd, basically the Court already ruled on this, with the "common use" ruling some time back. Weapons in common use cannot be banned the court said, so this should be a slam dunk when they finally rule next summer.
As to the 14th, I am surprised it was close at 5-4. If Roberts or Barrett had gone the other way, it would have been dealt with.
Now it probably wont at least by the Courts, and perhaps legally thats how it should be done, not in the courts but in Congress.
 
Meanwhile, the air conditioning is mandatory here

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An Ontario law giving tenants the explicit right to install air conditioning units is set to come into effect Wednesday, in the midst of a stifling heat wave. The section of a 2023 law will be in force as of July 1 and allows tenants to install and use a window air conditioner or portable […]
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pilar said:
This is what amazes me about European people, is how they are usually full of propaganda against the USA, when I lived in Spain during university, usually I heard mainly anti American propaganda repeated back to me , then lots of my school mates
Entered graduate school in the USA and once here and experiencing the real daily life in the USA they had a 180* change in their attitude. And er discovering the truth.
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Tanks said:
I think there was plenty of precedence not to mention the 14th Constitutional Amendment which is pretty unambiguous.
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Yes the 14th is a bit ambiguous, it's a frick'n paragraph! The meat is in the su[[orting documents used to developed that paragraph. They specifically exclude children of noncitizens born on American soil of automatic citizenship but include children of emancipated slaves already in the country; that was the entire point of the 14th.
 
Rafiki said:
Yes the 14th is a bit ambiguous, it's a frick'n paragraph! The meat is in the su[[orting documents used to developed that paragraph. They specifically exclude children of noncitizens born on American soil of automatic citizenship but include children of emancipated slaves already in the country; that was the entire point of the 14th.
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There are many supporting documents of laws that differ from laws that are passed. We look at the Constitution not other documents, otherwise it is a slippery slope.
 
VertigoBE said:
I would be very careful to ever (from the Republican side, as democrats do it all the time) to call any part of the constitution, bill of rights, amendments, a “mistake by the Founding Fathers”. That opens the door to modification of the 1st and 2nd…

Live with the 14th and control the borders.
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My opinion exactly. Leave the constitution alone. Don’t start that stone rolling.

There are dozens better ways to limit birth tourism.
 
Altitude sickness said:
My opinion exactly. Leave the constitution alone. Don’t start that stone rolling.

There are dozens better ways to limit birth tourism.
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Who called the 14th a mistake, not me; all I'm saying is that the constitutional framework relies on the totality of the documents that support the founding document. Without that the "intent" of the framers reverts to speculation. Think of the 2nd amendment, there's an exemplary example of mass confusion; or the first; people think it say says freedom from religion when it actually says freedom of religion. Those simple amendment paragraphs only gain meaning/context when interpreted "through" the supporting documents that gave birth to the amendment itself.
 
VertigoBE said:
I would be very careful to ever (from the Republican side, as democrats do it all the time) to call any part of the constitution, bill of rights, amendments, a “mistake by the Founding Fathers”. That opens the door to modification of the 1st and 2nd…

Live with the 14th and control the borders.
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IMO, the less we play with the Constitution, the better.
 
"Food for thought though, more Europeans have died from heat in the last month than all USA firearms deaths for all of 2025"

don't know if that's really true.
It's mostly older people who die from the heat. Don't they die from it where you are?
They're probably splashing around in the pool around the clock.
 
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