Looking to book south African safari hunt, Suggestions for outfitters?

I like and hunt with JKO Outfitters every time I go to Africa. Jacques Spamer is a sponsor of this site and though his website is generalized, he offers great packages and does a lot of bespoke hunts.
 
After attending the Duluth MN outdoor show I am looking at booking a hunting safari to Africa. Looking at booking with Grindstone African Safaris or Dinkwe Safaris and taxidermy.

Has anyone had experience with them.

Other suggustions? I am looking at hunting Blesbuck, Impala, and Blue Wildabeast or equivalant. I would love to hunt a black Buffalo but the cost for this is way more then I can afford. Just purchased a Merkel 470ne double rifle. But the double rifle hunt for the black buffalo with have to wait.

I would appreciate your input.
hi sir

we would be very happy to help you out

we have all those species and it not as expensive as you may think

come and test that double rifle in the thick stuff

welcome to email me, or whatsapp or text anytime

regards
 
Looking at booking with Grindstone African Safaris or Dinkwe Safaris and taxidermy.

I am looking at hunting Blesbuck, Impala, and Blue Wildabeast or equivalant
. I would love to hunt a black Buffalo but the cost for this is way more then I can afford. Just purchased a Merkel 470ne double rifle. But the double rifle hunt for the black buffalo with have to wait.

The following includes my opinions which are worth as much as you paid for them, and the very valuable comments from other AH members.

From the limited information in your post, it seems your funds are limited. That’s okay for many of us were for our first trip to hunt Africa! From the school of hard knocks, here is some hard earned wisdom…

You have a .470 double rifle that likely cost at least $9,000, if not more. Put that rifle to work! Work up loads that will regulate and practice “off the shooting sticks” until you can maximize the rifle and your maximum effective range. Maybe that’s 50 yards or perhaps out to 100 yards. Whatever it is, select your safari operator that will have their PH guide you into the range of your double rifle. Communicate that requirement in writing with the operator and ask them to confirm they will do their best.

Since your funds seem to be limited, why bring back common species “trophies”? Spend your taxidermy money on experiences with photos and perhaps short videos as mementos. Use the saving to shoot a buffalo or if money is really tight, a cull buffalo. Shooting your first buffalo with your double rifle regardless of its size or sex, is something you will not forget. My first buffalo was a cull female. The PH and I took over 40 minutes to low crawl (elbows and very low body) 50 yards to a spot less than 50 yards from the herd. The PH said he had never been able to crawl that close to a herd. Bang, bang with a .458 Lott and she was mine!

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Note:
  • I paid for a professional video of my recent tuskless elephant hunt. Tuskless are non-exportable so the video was the best trophy I could have. This was a hard decision to spend the money for a video but in hindsight, it was the best money spent!
  • I would not pay for a video of a first South African game ranch hunt. I would however ask the PH use my phone to take short videos of my shots!
All the photos below were professionally printed for about $300.
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Don’t be ashamed to do a cull hunt at the end of the hunting season such as October. One can hunt and shoot a surprising number of animals for the cost of a couple trophy size animals. Yes, it’s hot then in Africa and the ground is covered in dry leaves that crunch under foot like corn flakes, but that makes your hunt more challenging! Anyway, a bunch of cull animals will make for great memories for your first African hunt. After that you will have much more experience to determine where to spend your future safari funds.

Like most of us you unless you are over 80 years old, this won’t be your only Africa hunt. With that in mind save the taxidermy money for exceptional, near record book animals that you take on subsequent hunts. Instead, use the money saved on additional animals that you will slay with your double rifle.

There are fixed costs to hunting Africa such as:
  • A good Pelican brand or equivalent rifle case, $200 to $300. Luckily if one selects very good case, this is a one-time cost.
  • Cost to drive to US Customs to have rifle(s) inspected for Form 4474. That form is required by African countries in lieu of a gun license. This may be $20 for some or $200 for others depending on how far you need to drive to reach a Customs and Border Protection location. For my last trip, I made an appointment with CBP at a private aviation airport. It was easy since was the only visitor there. The 4474 must be less than a year old (or for the current year…). One can’t get around this. Also, you will need a current 4474 a month or two before you fly to complete, submit, and be approved to “temporally export” firearms. You cannot wait until the day you fly to obtain a 4474!
  • Cost of airfare. One can assume you will fly in coach but that will be approximately $1,000, depending on the month of travel. Summer months are the highest cost. October is normally a lower cost travel month.
  • If you arrive in Africa late in the day or night, you will need a hotel room at a place where your rifle(s) will be safe, $200+ per night. Plan your travel to arrive at an hour your safari operator can pick you up and drive to their location.
  • Personally I pay an expediter to make my arrival in an African airport and clearing customs and rifle permit inspection a whole bunch easier. AH sponsor @rifle is worth the money to avoid getting grumpy (15 hours in coach…) with foreigners who have the authority to “detain” you. At least it is for me!
All the above listed costs and others add up to maybe $2,000. With proper planning one can save some money.

Read the suggestions that experienced AH members have provided. Ask them for links to their hunt reports such as mine of hunting @Tally-Ho HUNTING SAFARIS posted below.
If their recommendations spark your interest, ask via Direct Message (DM, whatever happened to PMs? ) for a phone conversation. What people will provide via phone calls is often more direct than what they will put in writing. An example is a member’s opinion of a very respected operator/PH, “What’s his name is an AXXHOLE”. Hearing that I inquired why and received a play by play review of the member’s experience. Of course I know others who hunted with the same PH who say nothing but good things. The hard part of the this is figuring out if you will get along with a safari operator and/or their PH. I gather assessments from a half dozen persons and try to determine if the negative things were the fault of the client, PH, or a combination of both such as two egos so big that one of which would be more than enough for any hunt!

I am very direct when contracting for anything. I ask operators/PHs yes or no questions and expect an answer. Any non-direct answer is weasel-words, i.e. bull shxt! I take those as not only no but f-no. I then document those replies in an email in which I ask them to confirm their statements. This puts off some whose culture is different than mine. Fine, there are a lot of operators in Africa! My bottom line is integrity. I tell the truth, the whole truth and expect the same from others.

There are of course a lot of variables when hunting Africa but for the hunt objectives, I want to know what to expect. Lesser things like “Is there 24-hour generator power and WiFi in camp? How about hot water? I also like to know. Now, if there is a problem such as the camp generator becomes inoperable for a day or so, well I can rough it. But if other hunters previously mentioned that and I experience the same, whose fault is that?

Others posted about hunting other farms for different species. Ask about,
  • How many contiguous acres does the ranch or hunting have?
  • How long is the drive to that area?
  • Are all of you animals available on that area?
  • If needing to drive to another area for a species, how long is that drive? Remember to multiply that time by two since you will be going and returning to camp.
This is a lot but there is a lot more that most of us didn’t know until we had been on a safari or two. Check out @Philip Glass videos. for more common sense information!
 
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  • Personally I pay an expediter to make my arrival in an African airport and clearing customs and rifle permit inspection a whole bunch easier. AH sponsor @rifle is worth the money to avoid getting grumpy (15 hours in coach…) with foreigners who have the authority to “detain” you. At least it is for me!

I just noticed that I forgot to list the link to AH Sponsor @riflepermits.com

Henry and his staff do a great job. They will meet you as you depart the aircraft, escort you to retrieve your luggage, and guide you to the South African Police Service rifle inspection room. Once there, they will do the talking. After that they will guide you to an airport hotel like City Lodge, or to local transportation to other lodges or to your outfitter's vehicle.

An added bonus is you will be escorted past a long line of visitors waiting to clear customs, and past other hunters waiting their turn for rifle inspection. After a long flight, I will be too grumpy to endure a ration of crap from local police. I happily pay Henry's people to avoid that!

If flying into other airports from the USA or Europe, ask your safari operator for an introduction to their preferred expeditor.
 
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Henry @riflepermits.com is top shelf. What I thought was going to be a complicated pain in the ass process with SAPS going into and out of SA twice in 16 days turns out to be a big bunch of “worst case scenario” bs I dreamed up. Henry is taking care of everything for me. It’s a bargain compared to dealing with SAPS solo after a 15+hour flight.
 
Sorry, I did not think to mention this previously. If the cost of your Merkel double 470 is preventing you from hunting buffalo, for me the decision is easy, sell it and use a lower priced bolt action or rental to hunt buffalo.

YMMV but I prefer the hunt over the weapon. I have made the decision to forego higher priced rifles and put the money towards DG hunting.

Every AH member here would be happy to share their experiences so don’t hesitate to reach out. Good luck with your hunt plans!
 
My experience is limited to one African hunt (so far) so take that for what it is worth. Many of the folks on here have much more experienced opinions. There are untold numbers of outfitters in South Africa that can provide a good experience but there are also some who will absolutely take advantage of your naivety. I wanted a low fence, free range hunt as much as possible and a good variety of animals to hunt. Budget was absolutely a factor but certainly not the only factor. After much online research, as well as talking to alot of people who have hunted Africa, I booked my hunt with Nick Bowker. I hunted different properties everyday and the experience was everything I hoped for. Accommodations were very comfortable and the food was top notch. I ended up shooting 8 quality trophies. But what made the hunt even more special was the comraderie and overall atmosphere. Nick and his crew were not only gracious hosts, they were truly fun to be around. The whole experience made me want to come back, not only to hunt but to see the people again.
https://nickbowkerhunts.com/
 
I hunted with Nick Bowker this past October. Unlike Relik it was my 26 different outfit in Africa. He’s words are absolutely true and his 100% free range hunts are going to be hard to beat, especially for the animals your speaking of. If your interested in talking about Africa I’ll gladly give you my 2 cents just contact me here.
 
Henry @riflepermits.com is top shelf. What I thought was going to be a complicated pain in the ass process with SAPS going into and out of SA twice in 16 days turns out to be a big bunch of “worst case scenario” bs I dreamed up. Henry is taking care of everything for me. It’s a bargain compared to dealing with SAPS solo after a 15+hour flight.
They are so nice to deal with! They are one of the reasons I say take your own gun. It's not hard!
 
I highly recommend Quagga Safaries. Eric Visser runs a first class operation on the Manketti Reserve, 57,000 acres so plenty of room to roam. Great quality and quantity of game. The food is amazing and the accommodations are terrific. I've hunted with Quagga 4 times and all 4 safaris were excellent.
 
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Congratulations on your Merkel .470, a great double & wish you years of good hunting with it!

My wife & I have hunted Africa a few times & been to a number of shows. Have not heard of the names you mentioned but then again there are hundreds and hundreds of outfitters in Africa.

If I may offer my thoughts - the three animals you mentioned are great starter African animals. You should be able to shoot good representative heads in 2 or 3 days. Get a hold of a shotgun & two boxes of cartridges & fill a day with bird hunting - Swainsons, guineas & pigeons & doves. Fun to shoot plus a bonus of great eating as an appetizer around the fire in the evening.

If cash is tight do not plan taxidermy & mounts - the three animals will be some USD 2.500,- plus before they are on the wall. Take lots of photographs & have photo plates done for a fraction of the cost when you are back home.

Save up for the buff & when you have hunted him (or her) then get a mount done!

What ever you decide, wishing you a great first hunt & may it be the first of many!

Cheers

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After attending the Duluth MN outdoor show I am looking at booking a hunting safari to Africa. Looking at booking with Grindstone African Safaris or Dinkwe Safaris and taxidermy.

Has anyone had experience with them.

Other suggustions? I am looking at hunting Blesbuck, Impala, and Blue Wildabeast or equivalant. I would love to hunt a black Buffalo but the cost for this is way more then I can afford. Just purchased a Merkel 470ne double rifle. But the double rifle hunt for the black buffalo with have to wait.

I would appreciate your input.

Only you can decide what is right for you. I will offer what I would do based on what you've said about your situation and your interests.

First thing I would do is sell the double rifle and use that money to hunt the buffalo.
If there is money left I would hunt the plains game animals you mentioned.
I would take very nice pictures and do euro mounts on all of them including the buffalo.

In one version you look at a buffalo skull every day for the rest of your life and think about how you fulfilled your dreams of hunting buffalo in Africa.

In the other version you see a double in your safe from time to time and think, "I always wanted to use that to hunt buffalo some day."

I know which version I would prefer.
 
Halo Sir
Please consider our East Cape region as an option for your wish list.
Malaria Free Area, No Tropical Diseases, no medication needed!

Your hunting wish list and requirements falls right into our modus operandi.
We are perfectly located for great sightseeing day trips for non-hunting guests on days they wish not to accompany their hunting partner.

26 years we have been hosting international clients/couples, making so many new friends
1 hour drive to Hunt Camp from Port Elizabeth Airport
I assist with your rifle paperwork too

We streamline your complete taxidermy process too, dip&pack and/or mounts, you wont be left on your own with third party contacts afterwards!

I offer loads of cull hunts too, buffalo cow hunts as well
Package Quotes are ALWAYS all inclusive, no hidden costs at all
Loads of Packages ready to send you for your consideration: Cull & Trophy Hunts

Taxidermy Options/Quotes I can also do now as part of booking, with shipping costs estimated
Loads of references
I NEVER overbook my Hunting Lodge/Hunting Land...your hunt will be exclusive!

We also own 2 x ocean boats moored ready in Port, 90 minutes away, if you want to do some Ocean Fishing too...that will also be exclusive to you (no other guests with us)

Best Wishes
 
Hi Sir,

We can definately assist you with your requirements. Our terrain offer great stalking where we can test that double even on the game you mention. Or we can add a buff cow if you would lile to experience hunting buffalo.

We are a short 2hr drive from Johannesburg International airport.

Please let me know if you need more information

My personal best
Gerrit
 
I completed a Plains Game Hunt last August. It may sound like bragging, but I shot 5 animals in 5 days with 5 shots. The hunt was with Dirk de Bod Safaris Namibia. Dirk and his crew were fantastic. The facilities were great. All the meals were Old World European hospitality. If you are interested in a successful hunt. Dirk can certainly provide it.
 
YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT SELLING THE DOUBLE TO USE A CAMP GUN BREAK MY HEART. THE ONLY WAY I HAVE DONE A HUNT I DIDNT USE MY OWN WAS CAUSE IT COUDN'T BE DONE OTHERWISE.
 
YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT SELLING THE DOUBLE TO USE A CAMP GUN BREAK MY HEART. THE ONLY WAY I HAVE DONE A HUNT I DIDNT USE MY OWN WAS CAUSE IT COUDN'T BE DONE OTHERWISE.
Kinda looks like yu answered the original post's dilemma. He can have a shiny piece of furniture, and stay at home and polish it, and dream about far away places. Or maybe he can turn it into some $$ and actually live the dream, have some adventure and experience what Africa is all about ...

Wouldn't be a hard one for me
 
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Lemme see I got this.

You bought a nice double to go hunt buffalo with, and that’s keeping you from hunting buffalo?
 

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