Thoughts on Cape Buffalo under 40"

A clarification for those that might not be aware regarding a Fair Chase Safari (what is being called a wild hunt) and a High Fence Safari is game location. In either case let’s assume a 200,000 acre concession. In both scenarios 90+ percent of the game will locate in a very small percentage of the concession. Always around good water access and food availability. It’s a misnomer that on a Fair Chase Safari game is equally spread out and distributed across the entire concession.
 
I'm curious to hear on how long it took some of you to find and take those 40" plus bulls. I've heard some crazy stories of days, even weeks, trying to find them.
 
The hunt itself is more important than the width. Mine is 38”.
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I'm curious to hear on how long it took some of you to find and take those 40" plus bulls. I've heard some crazy stories of days, even weeks, trying to find them.
In my 10 days in Mozambique I think I saw 2 maybe 3 bulls of 40+”s. They were younger and still soft. We were in buffalo maybe 5 days of the 10 days I was there. But a caveat to this is Mozambique flood plain buffalo are extremely visible unlike the thick jess where they are tracked.
In South Africas Eastern Cape we saw several bulls from 39” to maybe 42” but again even though they were in thick spec boom they were fairly visible viewed from one hill over to the next but I was not hunting buffalo so we weren’t looking too hard.

Just anecdotal to my limited experience with buffalo.

To me theseis the perfect bulls!! Hopefully one day I will hunt one. Pictures taken in Kruger last October by my daughter.
 

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I'm curious to hear on how long it took some of you to find and take those 40" plus bulls. I've heard some crazy stories of days, even weeks, trying to find them.
I spent one month on safari looking for a deep curl 40”+ buff in an area that Boddington recommended to me. Never saw one and never fired a shot at Mbogo. Did see a very flat bull that was very close if not 40, he was beautiful, but not the trophy I was looking for. I left Africa without a buff that time. I had explained to the Outfitter and PH my position well ahead of booking but still no PH wants to see a sportsman leave without a trophy. I was perfectly fine with the outcome. I had a fabulous time on that safari as it was over my birthday and our 25th wedding anniversary.
 
A clarification for those that might not be aware regarding a Fair Chase Safari (what is being called a wild hunt) and a High Fence Safari is game location. In either case let’s assume a 200,000 acre concession. In both scenarios 90+ percent of the game will locate in a very small percentage of the concession. Always around good water access and food availability. It’s a misnomer that on a Fair Chase Safari game is equally spread out and distributed across the entire concession.
I disagree. A 10,000 acre farm (which would be larger than average) you will never exceed 2 miles from a fence. The animals will not either. In a concession area, the game may concentrate on a particular area for a period of time until fire comes through, better rains occur in a different area, lions come through. The game will cover a huge distance in a year and in their lifetimes. Conditions change in concession areas. Conditions are relatively constant inside a game farm especially in absence of predators. I’m not against hunting behind a high fence as long as it’s not put and take, but there is a significant difference hunting a concession area. There’s also a significant difference in the value of the trophy to me knowing that animal potentially crossed country boundaries, survives poachers, predators, droughts, and other conditions.
 
I'm curious to hear on how long it took some of you to find and take those 40" plus bulls. I've heard some crazy stories of days, even weeks, trying to find them.
Getting a 40” buffalo from a wild area is like trying to get a 150” buck. You might hunt forever in west Virginia trying to get one but not an uncommon occurrence at all in Kansas. It really depends on the location. I took my first buffalo adjacent Kruger. The 40”+ genetics are common there. I took a huge bull. Every inch after 40” I’d put in a new class of bull. There also a lot of value in visibility, if you are hunting thick brush in Zimbabwe it’s much more difficult to selectively look for big bulls compared to areas with open plains you can look over a large number of animals.
 
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Glad to learn this ,now I realize 40" means nothing to me just an arbitrary no. once again its about the hunt.
 
Greatest width...or " outside spread"
Spike
Just to clarify. There are several methods used rto measure depending on the recordkeeping org.
However, in my experience, whenever the term "40 inch Bull" has been referenced, the "40 inch was" determined soley by outside width ( greatest spread).
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Spike
 
When you start out hunting buff, width and hard boss seems like the right measurement. As you get more experience, you start looking for the older bulls that are beat up and have a lot of character. Often their bosses will be cracked and their tips are worn down or broken off. It also makes more sense from a conservation perspective as the older bulls get pushed out and broken down by the hard bossed but younger bulls. That's my target animal and passing up other bulls just means you get more experience with them!

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This beat up old fella measured over 2 hours of tracking in brush filled rough terrain, other than that I have no idea and could care less.View attachment 747493
At long last...a properly measured example.
Well and truly done.
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Spike
When you start out hunting buff, width and hard boss seems like the right measurement. As you get more experience, you start looking for the older bulls that are beat up and have a lot of character. Often their bosses will be cracked and their tips are worn down or broken off. It also makes more sense from a conservation perspective as the older bulls get pushed out and broken down by the hard bossed but younger bulls. That's my target animal and passing up other bulls just means you get more experience with them!

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Very well said amigo...and spot-on analysis...for those new gents...who are paying attention.
 
When we were in Kruger last year looking over some old dagga boys my daughter looked at one particular old bull and said “ he just looks worn out and tired of living” to me that sums it up pretty well on the bulls we should strive to take!!

I think it was the broken horned bull in post #85.
 
I don’t have any over 40. Wild buffalo, unfenced. It’s the hunt.
Agree 100%. Its how and where you hunt them, not what the tape measure says.
 
When we were in Kruger last year looking over some old dagga boys my daughter looked at one particular old bull and said “ he just looks worn out and tired of living” to me that sums it up pretty well on the bulls we should strive to take!!

I think it was the broken horned bull in post #85.
From the mouth's of babes.
Spike
 
I am new to this. You don't have to be a jerk. Do you remember a time when you were new to something and asked others for guidance?
I’m not being a jerk, just trying to add a little humor. Figured the tape measure inference over a 2” difference in relation to dick size might get a laugh

Trophies are in the eye of the beholder. Have you ever shot a deer that didn’t make Boone & Crockett? How about mounted one? You’re essentially asking about the buffalo version of this except it’s now in a high fence/game farm situation.

You’re new to this, hunt whatever you’re happy with and wherever you’re happy; be it a cow, young bull, management buff, old dagga boy, or genetically bred world record. Have any of your friends hunted a Cape Buffalo? Are you hunting one to get a bigger one than them? Forget what everyone else thinks about what you shoot or get mounted and enjoy following buffalo tracks.
 
I think my euro mounts look good on the wall.....but I would have to cut one inch off the tape measure for them to be 40"

BTW, if you shoot a too young, but over 40 bull there will be a big boiled off gap in what was the soft boss center area.
 
If something over 40 is what you are looking for go to one of the game ranches in SA and you can find one on their menu. Hell, they probably have him named. Hunting is not about a trophy. It is all about the experience of Africa, an experience that places something in your soul that never leaves. And, from one who experienced it a few years back, I have counted down the days since that time until my return this fall. And, I can assure you that inches has never crossed my mind.

Probably not for all of us but for most of us who love hunting it's not the size of something, what I have on my wall is not a trophy but a constant remembrance of the experience. My mounts are about respect and thanks for a time that meant so much to me that make me await the day for the next time. It's like Rafiki said, he's going back (and so am I) to relive an experience that changed me.

And, no matter what men think when we are in our testosteronal mind set, size doesn't really matter.
 

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