Good Gun Deals This Week

Ruger No. 1 .416 Rigby with a scary looking scope setup for that caliber!

Uncontrolled_round_feed said:

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1039071496

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These are nice guns. 270 seems to be the most common and lowest value caliber. I've seen these go for $1100-$1400, with or without scopes/mounts. Minty w/ box ones in 270, up to $1700.

Weatherby Lazermark .416 Weatherby at a shop here in Maine

At the Cabelas in Buda, TX

For all of you lefties out there Cabelas in Glendale Arizona has a Winchester M70 classic LH in 270 win.It is stainless and walnut for $999.It also has a weaver scope.

wvfred said:

For all of you lefties out there Cabelas in Glendale Arizona has a Winchester M70 classic LH in 270 win.It is stainless and walnut for $999.It also has a weaver scope.

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Already sold as far as I know

Somebody should buy this so I can’t. Right now, it looks like a steal, unless I’m missing something. My understanding is the Griffen and Howe side mounts are very good.

rookhawk said:

These are nice guns. 270 seems to be the most common and lowest value caliber. I've seen these go for $1100-$1400, with or without scopes/mounts. Minty w/ box ones in 270, up to $1700.

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Could you trust the stock repair to the wrist though? How much does that affect the value?

Randy F said:

Could you trust the stock repair to the wrist though? How much does that affect the value?

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Didn't see that. I don't buy guns with repaired wrists, ever. I treat them as scrap-value whether they are Steyr or Purdey.

Ruger M77 Hawkeye African in .35 Whelen. New in box. I know Lipsey's was showing this model in this caliber at the SHOT Show in January. Current high bid is $475 plus 19% premium. Auction is Friday.

https://www.proxibid.com/Guns-Milit...-WHELEN-HUNTING-RIFLE/lotInformation/82884111

Ok - not a rifle, but a set of 'big 5' (lion, elephant, buffalo, leopard, rhinoceros) bronze sculptures by someone called David Cemmick (whoever he is) and retailed by Holland & Holland.

No doubt Hollands charged a fortune, and they are now coming up second-hand at auction: https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/tennants-auctioneers/catalogue-id-srten11117/lot-d8248c2f-295d-4b97-b139-b13200ba988b

Each has an estimate of £1,500 - 2,000. Note the horrific and disgraceful 35% commission on top before you get carried away.

I am afraid that, to my eyes, they do not look very good; the buffalo, in particular, looks lifeless, and he ought to be looking down his nose (thinking: I'll get you, you little bastard!) rather than straight ahead, like a guardsman. His horns look more like a polite handlebar moustache than those rather unpleasant disemboweling hooks and battering rams on the living animal. Anyway, it's better than I could do, and maybe someone else doesn't have the same opinion!

If you want bronzes, the French animaliers were the best: Mêne, Barye, and - best of all - Rembrandt Bugatti.

The Scheels in Johnstown CO has two Remington 798s (Zastava Mausers), one 375 H&H, one 458WM.

Both have Leupold VX3 3-9 scopes and are in excellent condition for $899 each. Seemed like a decent deal, they will ship them out.

They also had a nearly-new 458WM RSM for $1799, they've had it for about 6 months and would probably knock some more off the top. Ask for Maury or Josh if you call in, they're awesome to deal with.

Decent price for a 505 Gibbs here: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1041720445

This pretty Brenneke is at auction and closing later today. As of this writing, it’s up to $1,025 but that’s still significantly lower than most Brennekes go for.

I have a feeling it’s overlooked due to being misnamed in the auction. It’s marked as a Bohler rifle, but I’m fairly certain that’s the barrel maker, not the rifle maker. Brenneke used both Bohler and Krupp barrels.

I was on it under $1k, hoping folks would think it’s just another old Mauser but oh well, I was wrong. I’ve done too much buying recently anyway, I don’t need this one.

Check out the rest of the auction if you’re into drillings. There are some nice pieces.

rookhawk said:

Didn't see that. I don't buy guns with repaired wrists, ever. I treat them as scrap-value whether they are Steyr or Purdey.

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ROOKHAWK: From what I’ve read and been told (I’m not the expert) a properly repaired wood stock [drilled, epoxy, rod) is as strong as any original wood stock and that the crack-joint after bonding is “stronger” then the original wood, it will never break “on the bonded joint”. I would think the key is “Properly repaired”? I would also be uncomfortable buying a repaired stock - and expect some price reduction for my “perceived“ risk. I had a Browning Citori with slight crack behind tang and most certainly from my “over oil” and seeped into and weakened that part of the wood over 40 years. I was going to order a New stock but was told “You’re wasting your money - there is no need to do that”. It was repaired for a fraction of cost of new stock and the repair is “undetectable” - no problems after 20,000 rounds

HankBuck said:

ROOKHAWK: From what I’ve read and been told (I’m not the expert) a properly repaired wood stock [drilled, epoxy, rod) is as strong as any original wood stock and that the crack-joint after bonding is “stronger” then the original wood, it will never break “on the bonded joint”. I would think the key is “Properly repaired”? I would also be uncomfortable buying a repaired stock - and expect some price reduction for my “perceived“ risk. I had a Browning Citori with slight crack behind tang and most certainly from my “over oil” and seeped into and weakened that part of the wood over 40 years. I was going to order a New stock but was told “You’re wasting your money - there is no need to do that”. It was repaired for a fraction of cost of new stock and the repair is “undetectable” - no problems after 20,000 rounds

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A hairline crack forming at the back of the top tang of a rifle/shotgun that is filled with appropriate epoxy and blind screwed and pinned can be stabilized.

Cracks at wrist and rot at the head of a stock are never, ever the same. Even more so with modern "through bolted" stocks that have a void in them.

I see all manner of these dubious repairs on guns, then embellished checkering applied over the repair lines in a cracked wrist to conceal them. They are decorative wall-hangers, but not sold as such.

A proper "best gun" boxlock stocking runs $4000-$8000 w/ wood. A "best gun" sidelock stocking runs $6000-Infinity w/ wood. A restocked gun done by the finest craftsman in the world results in a 20%-40% loss in value, on average, post repair.

Broken and repaired guns are always offered for sale for orders of magnitude more than their actual value. Not to sound condescending, but only ill-informed buyers purchase them, usually on the Internet with undisclosed issues, or from Cabelas. (where junk guns are sent to be purchased by untrained $15 per hour staff using a bluebook of gun values estimate)

rookhawk said:

A hairline crack forming at the back of the top tang of a rifle/shotgun that is filled with appropriate epoxy and blind screwed and pinned can be stabilized.

Cracks at wrist and rot at the head of a stock are never, ever the same. Even more so with modern "through bolted" stocks that have a void in them.

I see all manner of these dubious repairs on guns, then embellished checkering applied over the repair lines in a cracked wrist to conceal them. They are decorative wall-hangers, but not sold as such.

A proper "best gun" boxlock stocking runs $4000-$8000 w/ wood. A "best gun" sidelock stocking runs $6000-Infinity w/ wood. A restocked gun done by the finest craftsman in the world results in a 20%-40% loss in value, on average, post repair.

Broken and repaired guns are always offered for sale for orders of magnitude more than their actual value. Not to sound condescending, but only ill-informed buyers purchase them, usually on the Internet with undisclosed issues, or from Cabelas. (where junk guns are sent to be purchased by untrained $15 per hour staff using a bluebook of gun values estimate)

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ROOKHAWK: You’re moving too fast for me - let me “catch up”. I get that any “rotted” wood is beyond repair and perhaps cracks in some locations also can’t be repaired - especially with heavy recoiling guns. But aren’t there some cracks that are easily repaired and have a very high likelihood of remaining fixed & secure”? Also questioning your replacement stock prices - unless these are from Holland & Holland, a new stock (not custom made from scratch) also referred to as a “replacement stock” form manufactures like Caesar Guerini, Beretta etc.. can be purchased/installed from the manufacturers for around $2000 (depending on grade of wood). Either we are not talking apples to apples —- or my information has come from Used Car Salesman (which it did Not - some very respected names I spoke with).

HankBuck said:

ROOKHAWK: You’re moving too fast for me - let me “catch up”. I get that any “rotted” wood is beyond repair and perhaps cracks in some locations also can’t be repaired - especially with heavy recoiling guns. But aren’t there some cracks that are easily repaired and have a very high likelihood of remaining fixed & secure”? Also questioning your replacement stock prices - unless these are from Holland & Holland, a new stock (not custom made from scratch) also referred to as a “replacement stock” form manufactures like Caesar Guerini, Beretta etc.. can be purchased/installed from the manufacturers for around $2000 (depending on grade of wood). Either we are not talking apples to apples —- or my information has come from Used Car Salesman (which it did Not - some very respected names I spoke with).

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A guerini or beretta is a modern "through bolted" gun with a hollow void in the stock. Their stocks can be purchased for $600-$1200 and are 98% inletted. 4 hours of shop time to use lantern soot to do final inletting is all that is required. Same for a CZ rifle, I've actually done final fitting for one in the bush with primitive tools by lantern light over the course of a few hours. These are mass produced stocks and mass produced guns.

If it is a hand built gun, for example a vintage 98 mauser sporting rifle, or a garden variety $2000 vintage british 12 bore boxlock shotgun, that was all hand fitting. They are slight in design, using the best possible materials, reliant on good wood integrity for their useful life. If one of those breaks at the wrist or head, a repair is unlikely to be salvagable. Particularly if the stock splinters and you have a hand full of small fragments. Sure it can be glued/pinned/epoxied, then checkering recut to conceal the sh&t-show, then refinished, and pawned off on 95% of buyers, but it won't likely hold.

Why do gun sellers try to convince people that such repairs as above are "Good as new, heck better than ever!" you might ask? Because its a $2000 ruined gun that needs a $5000 new stock. Thus, the gun is worth negative $3000 plus negative $500-$800 for having been restocked. ($2000 original value minus $5000 new stock minus $800 depreciation for being restocked = negative -$3800 loss to the owner)

There is one particular seller on GI and GB located in Kansas that has 100+ guns for sale at a given time. Nearly 100% of the advertised guns have such latent defects and he earns his livelihood acquiring zero-value guns, tarting them up with unstable repairs, and selling them to the masses for 10% under the value they should be if never damaged.

Ask is about $9k USD - I think this is pretty undervalued compared to what GunsInternational, etc, has for similar rifles.