Electric cars are not as great for the planet as we are told it would seem....

[Randy F]

 

[Rick Cox]

OK, honestly, I don't think EV's are an answer, especially anywhere you drive extended distance in less than temperate terrain. But my wife bought a commuter Toyota Corrola, a hybrid. Never plug it in, utilizes the stopping and slowing inertia to charge a battery that then sheds the charge as appropriate. Gets 3.6 to 4.6 litres per hundred km ( averaged) depending on season, tires etc. This is about 65 miles per gallon I believe. 10 year warrantee on the battery, but by all accounts they just last and last. Same power as a full gas, but no downsides to being partially electric.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

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@RandyF
Trust you mate your the only one that could find something like that.

 

[Nyati]

OK, honestly, I don't think EV's are an answer, especially anywhere you drive extended distance in less than temperate terrain. But my wife bought a commuter Toyota Corrola, a hybrid. Never plug it in, utilizes the stopping and slowing inertia to charge a battery that then sheds the charge as appropriate. Gets 3.6 to 4.6 litres per hundred km ( averaged) depending on season, tires etc. This is about 65 miles per gallon I believe. 10 year warrantee on the battery, but by all accounts they just last and last. Same power as a full gas, but no downsides to being partially electric.

I also bought one last year when I sold my Audi. It has a 2 liter 150 hp gasoline engine plus a 34CV electric engine.

In Europe, if you live in a city you just have no choice but having a car with an ECO label, as there are strong restrictions, and getting stronger every year, for fuel engined cars to enter the city center, due to air pollution laws.

But I also would not buy a full EV.

 

[Randy F]

@RandyF
Trust you mate your the only one that could find something like that.

Here you go Bob, this reference to the old V8 juice commercials should get you bopping yourself in the head.

 

[PARA45]

I’ve been looking for this, and found it on my phone, someone here post it, my apologies for not being able to give credit to that member.

 

[CoElkHunter]

Here you go Bob, this reference to the old V8 juice commercials should get you bopping yourself in the head.
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Your car insurance would pay for that disaster. But you'd be out $20k+ if the battery pack went tits up. Then you'd have a $100k car. With 60% depreciation after the first 5 years, you could sell it for $40k or probably much less due to the old EV technology and the rest of the car's depreciation. The NEW revisionist wealth building program! Who's in?

 

[Randy F]

Your car insurance would pay for that disaster. But you'd be out $20k+ if the battery pack went tits up. Then you'd have a $100k car. With 60% depreciation after the first 5 years, you could sell it for $40k or probably much less due to the old EV technology and the rest of the car's depreciation. The NEW revisionist wealth building program! Who's in?

Build Back Better Battery.

 

[Hogpatrol]

UH OH.

Felicity Ace Fire​

The fire sparked by cargo ship Felicity Ace Wednesday has been brought under control, officials said yesterday. Reports suggest lithium-ion batteries in electric vehicles being transported fueled the fire, preventing it from being put out by water alone. The ship was drifting off the coast of Portugal's Azores islands in the Atlantic en route from Germany to Rhode Island when it caught ablaze, causing the 22-person crew to evacuate. The ship contained nearly 4,000 Volkswagen Group luxury cars, including Porsches and Bentleys, some of which were electric vehicles. It is unclear what initially caused the fire. Experts estimate the Volkswagen Group Q1 profit losses from the incident may exceed $450M (Forbes, paywall). That figure does not account for environmental costs, the ship itself, or the cost of the rescue, among other items. The boat is expected to be towed back to mainland Europe if it has not sustained too much damage.

 

[Jörg Krüger]

I haven't read the entire thread so I won't know if this has been mentioned. The replacement costs of the batteries are basically the price of a new car. Well with the new Mercedes Benz EQC it is like that.

 

[ducmarc]

How does the second or third owner replace that.i have an 04 Juan fitty ,an 03 expedition a 2014 Jetta and an mci motor coach.plus a half a dozen motorcycles.if they were electric they would all be junked.i did however make a Biden decision and bought some Lynas mining stock. Which isn't doing much.asmuch as I dislike Micheal Moore his film on green energy is interesting.they said to make solar cells u have to melt quartz.that would be impressive