Controlled feed and fixed magazines

[Cervus elaphus]

Winchester still offers such a rifle in the latest generation Win 70 Safari Express. I had one, nice rifles.

Other than 'safari' focussed arms though, that set up is a bit of a pain to live with, especially if you want a hunting / target shooting cross over rifle as seems to be the fashion right now.

I actually went to Winchester looking for a .30-06 but stumbled over the lightweight model first which kind of put me off being allergic to lightweights in that caliber !
Should have looked further.

 

[Cervus elaphus]

A different option is a custom build with a BigHorn CRF Origin action. Nice feature of this action is it can be used with most Remington and its clones aftermarket parts like stocks, bottom metal and triggers..

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Must have a look at that.

 

[Cervus elaphus]

Detachable magazine, plastic stock, stainless steel, tilted rail, adjustable wtf. Big scope with latest tactical reticle. And cheap. For Europeans add suppressor.
Seems this is what people want...

At this rate, next years models could come with attached hunting seat just like on my golf cart. Can we see a resurgence of more affordable no-frills doubles? I can think of some great calibers !

 

[Cervus elaphus]

mmmm, the more that I read articles like this, the more I appreciate my 1953 Winchester Model 70..

And my BSA Majestic but should have been in 7mm-08 which would probably still be with me

 

[Cervus elaphus]

Is it just my imagination or are controlled feed and fixed magazine rifles going extinct?. I've spent two full days scouring the net looking at the new offerings but the only ones I'm interesting in are old or discontinued. The CZ 550 seems to be the last of the line for these Mauser action rifles. I have no criticism to make of push-feed and removable magazines because I haven't used one. Call me old fashioned possums but I just like the Mauser way.

Thankyou everybody for a lot of useful information, not just for me, but all others interested in this thread. As the song goes "I've been looking in all the wrong places".

 

[Hogpatrol]

Defiance is another R700 clone that can be ordered with a CRF bolt.. I recently used their anTi lightweight action to build a 6.5x47 Lapua and it is very smooth and well made.

Options - Defiance Machine | Custom Bolt Rifle Actions

defiancemachine.com

 

[Cervus elaphus]

Defiance is another R700 clone that can be ordered with a CRF bolt.. I recently used their anTi lightweight action to build a 6.5x47 Lapua and it is very smooth and well made.

Options - Defiance Machine | Custom Bolt Rifle Actions

defiancemachine.com

Good to see there are options around and I didn't know about this one.

 

[Tanks]

Defiance is another R700 clone that can be ordered with a CRF bolt.. I recently used their anTi lightweight action to build a 6.5x47 Lapua and it is very smooth and well made.

Yep. Their Deviant Hunter model is what I ordered for LH CRF action for my .300 RUM to be built.

 

[Hogpatrol]

Yep. Their Deviant Hunter model is what I ordered for LH CRF action for my .300 RUM to be built.

Not to hijack the thread but what make barrel did you settle on?

 

[Tanks]

My gunsmith recommended Bartlein

 

[Ike85123]

I prefer a totally blind magazine. I have never had shells missing once loaded

Hinged plate also makes it easier to switch the old ammo to the top, so you dont get compression on the old ammo from the recoil.
Cycling the ammo out is the hard way, imo.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Is it just my imagination or are controlled feed and fixed magazine rifles going extinct?. I've spent two full days scouring the net looking at the new offerings but the only ones I'm interesting in are old or discontinued. The CZ 550 seems to be the last of the line for these Mauser action rifles. I have no criticism to make of push-feed and removable magazines because I haven't used one. Call me old fashioned possums but I just like the Mauser way.

@Cervus elaphas
I agree my son. Simples no magazine to loose and nothing to go wrong.
Sure you may have to cycle the bolt to unload but you will never loose a mag. I have a push feed and CRFs with a fixed blind mag for the same reason.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I prefer a totally blind magazine. I have never had shells missing once loaded

@curtism1234
+1
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Not so easy to keep clean in the bush....
A properly made hinged floor plate will never ever give any issues..

@IvW
I've see hinged floor plates fail to close because of grit and dump all the cartridges when a stick got caught in the trigger guard or hit the outside of the bow. Rare yes but can happen. No such problems with a bind mag or fixed bottom metal. Bob.

 

[Cervus elaphus]

@Cervus elaphas
I agree my son. Simples no magazine to loose and nothing to go wrong.
Sure you may have to cycle the bolt to unload but you will never loose a mag. I have a push feed and CRFs with a fixed blind mag for the same reason.

Hi Bob, I can't see any problem with a removable mag (and spare loaded in a pouch) for PG deer etc in fact it would be an asset in a culling operation. In a DG situation I would want at least a 6-8 cartridge stack. Buffs can absorb a lot of lead as many will testify. Comes down to personal preference I think, like CF v Push. cheers

 

[Cervus elaphus]

@IvW
I've see hinged floor plates fail to close because of grit and dump all the cartridges when a stick got caught in the trigger guard or hit the outside of the bow. Rare yes but can happen. No such problems with a bind mag or fixed bottom metal. Bob.

A hinged bottom plate can be made a fixed one with a little bit of gunsmithing. My old BSA never chucked out any ammo in spite of the years of bush-bashing it got.

 

[Wyatt Smith]

I kind of like the military Mauser bottom metal. However I like the Winchester/BRNO push button also. As long as the latch is not inside the trigger guard.

 

[curtism1234]

A hinged bottom plate can be made a fixed one with a little bit of gunsmithing. My old BSA never chucked out any ammo in spite of the years of bush-bashing it got.

Gunsmithing, duct tape...same thing...

 

[Cervus elaphus]

@IvW
I've see hinged floor plates fail to close because of grit and dump all the cartridges when a stick got caught in the trigger guard or hit the outside of the bow. Rare yes but can happen. No such problems with a bind mag or fixed bottom metal. Bob.

Gunsmithing, duct tape...same thing...

Selleys Araldite

 

[IvW]

Not needed on a Brno ZKK602 action